Ratickle, thanks again,for the post/reply. (not sure exactly which is the proper term) (s#it! I should've went for it w/ 50/50 odds) I was doing good, up until the part where you tell me to, be on utube. After that only one question came to mind, that being.????? You talkin da me??!? Are u talkin da me?????? I don't see any odher severely computer challenged wanna be fastboat guys around here.,and realized, you must be talkin da me. Regardless of what the other guys /girls here say about you ((Smiley))) you never did anything to deserve that,im not finished yet,something happend here,now my text not visible to me and my hooked on phonics spell prompter dissapeared,(just went from agonizing to impossible) i have to post this part now, if i lose what i (think i) have.typed sitar, I'll go ballistic on this thing