I just saw this. Can he be trusted or is this a hoax? Apparently, he is a conservative radio talkshow host who decided to prove, once and for all, that waterboarding is not torture by subjecting himself. To make it authentic, he did it on air and EMT supervision and a Marine in control.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUkj9pjx3H0
I am now convinced.
Thread: Anyone know or trust Mancow?
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05-23-2009 10:28 PM
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05-23-2009 11:04 PM
I would never call him conservative about anything. he is a shock jock trying to elicit responses .
Parabellum FJ²B
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05-25-2009 10:53 PM
anyone else heard of him?
The left-side bloggers are all over this. the right-side hasn't mentioned a word. It either means this guy is absolutely nobody or he was embraced by the right, but completely cast aside for not towing-the-line on an issue.
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05-26-2009 09:04 AM
Mancow used to be a shock jock based out of Chicago, kind of like Bob and Tom or Howard Stern. Years ago he was into all kinds of funnies and pranks. Reciently while riding in the car with my dad I heard on a conservation radio program
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05-26-2009 10:28 AM
Me too.
Seems like all you hear Bob and Tom do is laugh at each other.
I'm a Mancow fan, but unfortunatly, the local station that
carried him no longer carrys his show, and now my ride into work
is much less entertaining. .....the paint is almost worn off of
the seek button on the radio.
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05-26-2009 10:31 AM
Its ok for the middle eastern azz holes to kill our guys with no thought but if we even think about doing something back we get yelled at. Screw obama and his whole party
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05-26-2009 10:58 AM
Mancow is on as I type here in Chicago, on the show where the waterboarding was staged last Friday. He's on WLS AM890, which is just about the most conservative station you are gonna find anywhere. He is followed by Rush and Hannity and Mark Levin are on later in the evening, to give you the flavor.
He still carries the "shock jock" attitude, which I find pretty annoying, but his politics are and always have been right on the money. He is a card-carrying Libertarian, VERY anti-Obama and anti-Liberal. I watched the video this morning, and I think it's probably mostly his theatrical sense kicking in (back in the day, he did stunts like seeing how long he could last frozen in ice, etc). He has a very strong connection to the "vaudevillian" approach to radio shows...so a lot of his actions tend to be overblown, but on purpose.
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05-26-2009 04:57 PM
Would it seem likely he would turn on the torture-supporting Right wingers and do a stunt simply to appeal to the lefties? If he was a loyalist, like Limbaugh or Hannity, I hardly believe he would do the stunt if it meant he would be debunking the idea that it is not torture.
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05-26-2009 05:00 PM
How about this perspective. . . it's okay to torture, abuse, humiliate or otherwise maim the perpetrators of bad deeds against us. So after 8 years, we have done absolutely nothing to the main guy who got us - Bin Laden. He's still smoking his Hookah and releasing videos taunting our ineptitude. But to simple establish torture rooms, rape rooms and other vile acts while wrapping ourselves in the American flag bragging how much better we are than Saddam is a disgusting hypocracy.
Yes, if someone beheaded an American, we can behead them. They fly a plane into our building, we get em, hurt em and kill them. That's fine. But to grab people off the street just because they are wearing a towel on their head and waterboard them until they say what you want them to say. . . give me a break. In fact, give all the deeply intellectual Americans a break. We're better than that.
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05-26-2009 06:05 PM
that is crazy, new trick
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05-27-2009 08:00 AM
Nope...he would not do this to simply appeal to Liberals...just saying his methods are very theatrical...tries to get as much attention as possible, and in this case, has certainly succeeded. I personally think it was more about attention to HIM than whatever the result yielded. If he found it to be torture...well...that would garner even MORE media, no?
BTW...I consider myself an intellectual, but more than that, a realist. If we need to torture enemy combatants to get info, I don't think we should hide at all...we should be very upfront about what will happen to those that run afoul of us. The best defense is a good offense. I subscribe to the Ron Paul viewpoint on foreign relations...get the f$%# out of their business, take care of our business.
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05-27-2009 08:34 AM+1
There's nothing 'new' about it- been around since the 14th century. There's also a very good reason it was used in the Spanish Inquisition and by wonderful organizations like the Khmer Rouge and the Gestapo.
We have hanged people in this country for waterboarding.
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05-27-2009 08:56 AMYou really need to look into this a little deeper.
First of all, we have some barriers to finding Bin Laden. If you were familiar with the territory, you'd know a bit about what we're dealing with. Second, it's not East Berlin, where our CIA can easily recruit idealistic dissidents looking to escape from an opressive occupying government. Third, it's located in a portion of a sovereign nation- and a nuclear power. Pakistan is barely holding on to what they've got. Do you want to be in a shooting war with a somewhat unstable nuclear state?
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But to grab people off the street just because they are wearing a towel on their head and waterboard them until they say what you want them to say. . .
give me a break. In fact, give all the deeply intellectual Americans a break. We're better than that.
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05-27-2009 09:17 AMI just watched the video. My guess that it has to be a hoax. The purpose behind waterboarding is that the recipient thinks they're going to die in a fashion that the body possesses an easily triggered reflex against. The disc jockey went 6 seconds. Nobody only goes 6 seconds- especially when you know the people doing it are friendly and that you get to get up and leave when it's done. If you only had the fortitude to go 6 seconds, you gave it up long before they strapped you down and put the hood on.
Another thing about waterboarding- the technique was not used by people like the Nazi's, Soviets, etc. Those people had little concern for public opinion and skipped the soft techniques and went immediately to the much more severe, physically-damaging procedures. And these aren't people that needed confesions to try, convict or execute people.Last edited by Chris; 05-27-2009 at 11:27 AM.
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05-27-2009 11:13 AMYou let yourself be convinced by a radio DJ who readily admits that when he was a child, he drowned and had to be revived. Oh yeah, that's the kind of person I'm going to trust to evaluate anything associated with water.
The guy is losing market share and he pulled a stunt to get his name back in the spotlight. I was flipping channels last night and he was on a MSNBC show - the one with the ex-sportscaster. He's a tool looking for an audience.
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05-27-2009 11:31 AM
We should all remember that those talk show guys are all a joke. O'Reilly was the host of Inside Edition, a tabloid TV show about who's gaining weight in hollywood. The whole lot of them (Hannity, Maddow, Olberman, O'Reilly, etc)are useless. In fact, cable news programming should be required to display a fiction disclaimer.
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05-27-2009 11:31 AMMark
Everybody should believe in something; I believe I'll have another drink.