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AG Nominee- "Waterboarding is Torture"

waterboarding is no worse than going tubing.. behind a boat with a #6 drive on it.. big deal! I cant believe the sissification we are goin thru
 
What I want to know is, since when did interrogation methods become public? its none of my business, and none of Joe Public's business how the necessary information gets extracted from theese animals.

If someone wants to kill me, and it takes a barbwire wraped Louisville Slugger shoved up someones azz to find out why, then by god thats what I'm gonna do and its no one elses business by my own. Theese liberal fuking ferries disgust me to no end.
 
If hooking a suspected terrorist's nuts to a car battery will make the world safer, then I have only two things to say...
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The U.S. military uses the procedure daily- and has done so for years. Air Force pilots are waterboarded during their advanced training. Mostly so they know what it's like so that when it happens they'll be prepared. As part of my training I was sent to the Army Combat Dive school. We were "drownproofed" bas a part of that training. Essentially they got us so used to the effects of drowning that we lost the panic reflex that typically causes drowning. Is is scary as hell the first time? Sure. But no worse than the 5 or 6 times I came close to drowning as a kid. And in the last 30 years I've suffered no ill effects from it. Thousands of specialists (like divers), elite forces and special forces personnel every year are subjected to the practice yearly. I don't see them wobbling around in a fractured daze as a result.

But beyond all that, if I have a known terrorist that most likely knows of active plans for attacks that could kill American citizens, I don't care if I scare him. Personally I don't care if he suffers in agony for days prior to his demise, but that's just me, not national policy.
 
after i heard about waterboarding last year, we (roommates and i) were kinda curious what it was like. we went outside with jugs of water and a towel and tried it. (i didnt know at the time the person had to be on a slant) was it sort of scary? yes. would i consider it the worst form of torture? no. if they need to do that to a person to get valuable information, do it up!
 
After doing a little bit of reading on it the subject this evening the first thing that comes to mind is that if you are on an inverted slant there is no way your lungs can fill with water. Its a pure psychological panic.
 
I'm certain it's way worse when you are experiencing it by hostile captors who are giving you every indication that you're about to die. That's why WE do it to our own personnel that are potentially going to experience it.

What waterboarding does is triggers the subconscious reflex we all are born with. Many very strong swimmers have drown simply because they had no training at controlling that reflex. But you catch a SEAL, a PJ, or a Combat Diver you're not going to get $hit out of them by waterboarding. It's about as traumatic as a case of the sniffles.
 
catmando said:
Did any of you guys bother to read the link I put up? If not I'll hit a few highlights for you;

1) Waterboarding has a long history and has always been considered torture.

2) No country will admit to using it.

3) We prosecuted a Japanese Army General for using waterboarding against our troops.

4) Yes people CAN drown from being subjected to this procedure. Close off the nose and pump the water in through the mouth. The lungs will fill and you WILL drown.
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The people we are doing this to want to see you, me, your family, my family, and all other Americans dead . They dont want to be friends, there is no negotiation, they want us dead plain and simple. How can you possibly defend or sympathize for theese creatures? Would it be OK if it happend under the Obama admin?
 
it brings us down to there level. this country was founded on better ideals. Was it not stated by at least one of our founding fathers hat the true mark of a civilization was not how it treated it's citizens, but rather how it treated it's enemies.
 
catmando said:
Did any of you guys bother to read the link I put up? If not I'll hit a few highlights for you;

1) Waterboarding has a long history and has always been considered torture.

2) No country will admit to using it.

3) We prosecuted a Japanese Army General for using waterboarding against our troops.

4) Yes people CAN drown from being subjected to this procedure. Close off the nose and pump the water in through the mouth. The lungs will fill and you WILL drown.
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It's not that bad. It's an intimidation technique, not physical pain. The Japanese did horrific thing to people in their torture sessions. maiming and mutilations and infliction of injuries that took days to die from. THAT's torture. Scaring someone isn't torture. And we are not doing the type of water pressure torture where the stomach is filled with water to inflict pain. We simulate drowning to trigger the drowning reflex.
 
let me get this straight. a terrorist is trained to instill fear of dying in people to get what they want, but if we interrogate them by instilling fear we are inhumane? get a life & don't be a puss. don't throw a punch in a bar if you don't want to get hit!
 
tunnelvision69 said:
let me get this straight. a terrorist is trained to instill fear of dying in people to get what they want, but if we interrogate them by instilling fear we are inhumane? get a life & don't be a puss. don't throw a punch in a bar if you don't want to get hit!
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so you are saying that we as Americans should become terrorists ourselves and commit genicide on the arab world??
 
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