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    The Real Reason our country is failing
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    What is bankrupting us.


    You think the war in Iraq is costing us too much? Read this:

    Boy, am I confused. I have been hammered with the propaganda that it is the
    Iraq war and the war on terror that is bankrupting us. I now find that to be
    RIDICULOUS.

    I hope the following 14 reasons are forwarded over and over again until they
    are read so many times that the reader gets sick of reading them. I have
    included the URL's for verification of all the following facts.


    1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens
    each year by state governments.

    Verify at: http://tinyurl.com/zob77


    2. $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs
    such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens.

    Verify at: http ://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html <http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html>


    3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens.
    Verify at:
    http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html


    4. $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and secondary school
    education for children here illegally and they cannot speak a word of
    English!
    Verify at:
    http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP.../01/ldt.0.html

    5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the
    American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies.
    ; Verify at
    http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP...1/ldt..01.html


    6. $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens.
    Verify at:
    http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP...01/ldt.01.html


    7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens.
    Verify at:
    http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP...01/ldt.01.html < /SPAN>


    8. $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for Welfare &
    Social services by the American taxpayers.

    Verify at: http://premium.cnn.com/TRANSCIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01.html


    9. $200 Billion Dollars a year in suppressed American wages are caused by
    the illegal aliens.

    Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP...01/ldt.01.html


    10. The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that's two
    and a half times that of white non-illegal aliens. In particular, their
    children are going to make a huge additional crime problem in the USA .
    &n bsp; Verify at:
    http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP...12/ldt.01.html


    11. During the year of 2005 there were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens that
    crossed our Southern Border also, as many as 19,500 illegal aliens from
    Terrorist Countries. Millions of pounds o f drugs, cocaine, meth, heroin and
    marijuana, crossed into the U. S from the Southern border.

    Verify at: Homeland Security Report:
    http://tinyurl.com/t9sht


    12. The National Policy Institute, 'estimated that the total cost of mass
    deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion or an average cost of
    between $41 and $46 billion annually over a five year period.'
    Verify at:
    http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.o...eportation.pdf


    13. In 2006 illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances back to
    their countries of origin.
    Verify at: http://www.rense <http://www.rense/> .
    com/general75/niht.htm < http://www.rense.com/general75/niht.htm >



    14. 'The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One Million Sex Crimes
    Committed by Illegal Immigrants In The United States .'
    Verify at: http: // www.drdsk.com/articleshtml <http://www.drdsk.com/articleshtml>
    < http://www.drdsk.com/articleshtml >
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    Good points. Been saying that for years. Welfare in this country trumps the war by a 5 to 1 margin. Few too many contributors, far too many takers.
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    My wife is OB nurse and you should hear the stories about all the gotta do for me group

    Three areas our government should be looking at to save money

    1) All asistance programs

    2) Leagle reform (non of this sue you happy public)

    3) Govenment reduction and cost containment
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    Quote Originally Posted by boatme View Post
    2) Leagle refoorm (non of this sue you happy public)
    WTF is that?
    If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck!
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    WOW.......never knew it was that much. Should we bail out Mexico?
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    It is worse than that, 1st hand experience, not internet information. As many know I was a FireFighter when I lived in so. cal. My fire district was ended along 20 miles of the US Mexican border. I can not fully explain the shear volume of illegals comming across. The border patrol has a trick, they call for fire/ems EVERY time an illegal scrapes their knee, gets dehydrated etc. we have to respond, the illegal has to be transported to the hospital. What the border patrol does not to is place the illegal in custody as this would require an officer to accompany them to the hospital and more importantly, would require the BP to pay the bill. As a direct result the fire dept and the hospital EAT the bill. But wait, like a bad infomercial THERE'S MORE. The illegals know this. they get to the hospital and walk out to their waiting ride after recieving free medical care. The cost of these services are so great, the fire dept. I used to work for went under because it could not survive the financial strain. Now an entire community is without fire/ems service, relying on the county to provide and the closest county fire station is 17 milesaway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by phragle View Post
    It is worse than that, 1st hand experience, not internet information. As many know I was a FireFighter when I lived in so. cal. My fire district was ended along 20 miles of the US Mexican border. I can not fully explain the shear volume of illegals comming across. The border patrol has a trick, they call for fire/ems EVERY time an illegal scrapes their knee, gets dehydrated etc. we have to respond, the illegal has to be transported to the hospital. What the border patrol does not to is place the illegal in custody as this would require an officer to accompany them to the hospital and more importantly, would require the BP to pay the bill. As a direct result the fire dept and the hospital EAT the bill. But wait, like a bad infomercial THERE'S MORE. The illegals know this. they get to the hospital and walk out to their waiting ride after recieving free medical care. The cost of these services are so great, the fire dept. I used to work for went under because it could not survive the financial strain. Now an entire community is without fire/ems service, relying on the county to provide and the closest county fire station is 17 milesaway.


    We don't need to bail our Mexico.........We need to INVADE Mexico!! atriot:
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    The best thing that happened aroung here is the construction trade going in the toilet.Downtown Bonita Springs was like a little Mexican city before the boom and turned into a small country during it with all the illegals.
    They all fled now that work has dryed up.
    Starting to see a lot of white boys getting into the lawn business to that were in construction before.
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    Haven't you ever "accidentally" back over a injured Mexican before?? A fire truck would definitely do the job!
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    Working in the healthcare field I can say that illegals are the biggest drain on a hospits/fire/EMS there is. There is way too many of them and none of them pay their bills.

    That is why you have to wait 12 hours when you go to the ER, you have to wait for ll the illegals to get checked out for their sniffles and colds.
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    nopre, but I have had the border patrol run over one of my firehydrants, and I have been hung from helicopter long line to get to an officer who took a fall.
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    SHOCKING stats ........ I new it was bad but NOT THAT BAD.

    How can this be controlled especially now that OBAMA is in office......Will it continue or will he stop the bleading?
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    How about the grossly overpaid and under-producing executives of our top corporations?
    Athiests better pray they're right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edward R. Cozzi View Post
    How about the grossly overpaid and under-producing executives of our top corporations?
    I agree but it pales in comparison to the givaways by the govenment
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    Jefferson in some cases could be called a prophet.



    When we get piled upon one another in large cities, as in Europe, we shall become as corrupt as Europe .
    Thomas Jefferson



    The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.
    Thomas Jefferson



    It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. A principle which if acted on would save one-half the wars of the world.
    Thomas Jefferson





    I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.
    Thomas Jefferson





    My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government.
    Thomas Jefferson



    No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms.
    Thomas Jefferson



    The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.
    Thomas Jefferson



    The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
    Thomas Jefferson



    To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.
    Thomas Jefferson




    Very Interesting Quote


    In light of the present financial crisis, it's interesting to read what Thomas Jefferson said in 1802:

    'I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around the banks will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered.'
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    those and other qoutes from our founding fathers, is there really any question to the meaning of the 2nd amendment when one understands the thought processes of the very people that wrote our constitution and picked up arms to fight the government of the time, suceeding from England and forming a new country.

    "an informed, educated and active citizenary, ready to pick up arms to defend against the abuses of government is the only way to prevent such abuses of goverment" Phragle 2008
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    Quote Originally Posted by phragle View Post
    "an informed, educated and active citizenary, ready to pick up arms to defend against the abuses of government is the only way to prevent such abuses of goverment" Phragle 2008
    I’m not sure, but it may be tacky to quote your self………even if you are right.
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    not only to mention the hospitals but the u.s courts, loved waiting the couple times i've been for prolly 75% of the people in there being illegals that can't speak english, dont show or do and of them that do show all getting court appointed lawyers that we all pay for with our tax dollars, also not mentioned all the damn accidents they cause n don't have a drivers license nor insurance, i'm sick of seein mexican flags as well if they love the damn country so much stay in it!!!!
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    Wow, those stats are staggering, and I had seen them before but it still drops your jaw.

    And to think of the resistance by the taxpayers (many on this board) to a LOAN of $14 B to keep going the biggest (only) mfg industry in this country, a loan that is 1/4 as costly at minimum of failure. All because it's "their" tax money, ha. I guess they voted for every single thing "their" taxes do.
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