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    WASHINGTON - President Barack Obama on Tuesday ordered the federal government to rethink how it protects the nation's secrets, in a move that was expected to declassify more than 400 million pages of Cold War-era documents and curb the number of government records hidden from the public.

    Among the changes is a requirement that every record be released eventually and that federal agencies review how and why they mark documents classified or deny the release of historical records. A National Declassification Center at the National Archives will be established to assist them and help clear a backlog of the Cold War records by Dec. 31, 2013.

    Obama also reversed a decision by President George W. Bush that had allowed the intelligence community to block the release of a specific document, even if an interagency panel decided the information wouldn't harm national security.

    Advocates for a more open government are cautiously cheering the move.

    "Everything will depend on implementation," said Steven Aftergood, director of the Project on Government Secrecy at the Federation of American Scientists. But the order "has tremendous potential to reduce the level of secrecy throughout the government."

    In a memo to agency heads, Obama said he expects that the order will produce "measurable progress" toward greater openness in government while also protecting the nation's most important secrets.

    "I will closely monitor the results," he promised.

    The still-classified Cold War records would provide a wealth of data on U.S.-Soviet relations, including the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, the fall of the Berlin Wall, diplomacy and espionage. A Soviet spy ring in the Navy led by John Walker headlined 1985, which became known as "The Year of the Spy."

    On his first day in office, Obama instructed federal agencies to be more responsive to requests for records under the Freedom of Information Act and he overturned an order by Bush that would have enabled former presidents and vice presidents to block release of sensitive records of their time in the White House.

    The government spent more than $8.21 billion last year to create and safeguard classified information, and $43 million to declassify it, according to the Information Security Oversight Office, which oversees the government's security classification. The figures don't include data from the principal intelligence agencies, which is classified.


    It is TIME to take our country back before this azzhat and his other socialists ruin it. I don't know to start a movment to remove him, But I am in if any group knows how!
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    Let's release a certain birth certificate from Hawaii first!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillR View Post

    It is TIME to take our country back before this azzhat and his other socialists ruin it. I don't know to start a movment to remove him, But I am in if any group knows how!
    That "movement" is started in both houses of the legislative branch.

    Here's how it works and what offenses are impeachable under the law:

    http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/thepre...mpeachment.htm
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    Let's release a certain birth certificate from Hawaii first!!!
    My sister got her birth cetificate from Hawaii, and that was before it was a state. I've got my original on rice paper from the Phillipines.
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    Certain matters of national security (no matter how old) should stay secure. This guy is making one big bumbling mistake after another.

    A litle off-topic but somewhat related: did you guys take note of this little Interpol matter he quietly snuck in last week?

    From the desk of the White House:
    http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-...ve-order-12425

    One week ago, President Obama quietly signed an executive order that makes an international police force immune from the restraints of American law.

    Interpol is the shorthand for the International Criminal Police Organization. It was established in 1923 and operates in about 188 countries. By executive order 12425, issued in 1983, President Reagan recognized Interpol as an international organization and gave it some of the privileges and immunities customarily extended to foreign diplomats. Interpol, however, is also an active law-enforcement agency, so critical privileges and immunities (set forth in Section 2(c) of the International Organizations Immunities Act) were withheld. Specifically, Interpol's property and assets remained subject to search and seizure, and its archived records remained subject to public scrutiny under provisions like the Freedom of Information Act. Being constrained by the Fourth Amendment, FOIA, and other limitations of the Constitution and federal law that protect the liberty and privacy of Americans is what prevents law-enforcement and its controlling government authority from becoming tyrannical.

    On Wednesday, however, for no apparent reason, President Obama issued an executive order removing the Reagan limitations. That is, Interpol's property and assets are no longer subject to search and confiscation, and its archives are now considered inviolable. This international police force (whose U.S. headquarters is in the Justice Department in Washington) will be unrestrained by the U.S. Constitution and American law while it operates in the United States and affects both Americans and American interests outside the United States.

    Interpol works closely with international tribunals (such as the International Criminal Court — which the United States has refused to join because of its sovereignty surrendering provisions, though top Obama officials want us in it). It also works closely with foreign courts and law-enforcement authorities (such as those in Europe that are investigating former Bush administration officials for purported war crimes — i.e., for actions taken in America's defense).

    Why would we elevate an international police force above American law? Why would we immunize an international police force from the limitations that constrain the FBI and other American law-enforcement agencies? Why is it suddenly necessary to have, within the Justice Department, a repository for stashing government files which, therefore, will be beyond the ability of Congress, American law-enforcement, the media, and the American people to scrutinize?
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    Did he appoint a top secret Czar?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CigDaze View Post
    This guy is making one big bumbling mistake after another.
    I see it the same way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ted View Post
    Let's release a certain birth certificate from Hawaii first!!!
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    You need a Carter to get a Reagan.
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    Did he appoint a top secret Czar?

    Yeah, but he is under investigation for espionage
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    I've always said this SOB scares me.
    His rise was way too quick and he owes a lot of favors for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CigDaze View Post
    Certain matters of national security (no matter how old) should stay secure. This guy is making one big bumbling mistake after another.

    A litle off-topic but somewhat related: did you guys take note of this little Interpol matter he quietly snuck in last week?

    From the desk of the White House:
    http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-...ve-order-12425
    Yup, saw that too! The Klown signed away US soveriegnty!!!

    Where is the press?!?!?
    (I wish I wrote this: I think it's remarkable that the press can find every woman Tiger Woods has had an affair with the last few years; with photos, text messages, recorded phone calls, etc. They know not only the cause of the family fight, but even know it was a wedge from his golf bag that she used to break out the windows in the escalade. Not only that, they know ... See Morewhich wedge she used. This is the same press—or is it—that cannot locate Obama's birth certificate, any of his college papers, financial records, or transcripts, or what passport he used when traveled to Pakistan when travel there was prohibited for U. S. citizens.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillR View Post
    Yup, saw that too! The Klown signed away US soveriegnty!!!

    Where is the press?!?!?
    (I wish I wrote this: I think it's remarkable that the press can find every woman Tiger Woods has had an affair with the last few years; with photos, text messages, recorded phone calls, etc. They know not only the cause of the family fight, but even know it was a wedge from his golf bag that she used to break out the windows in the escalade. Not only that, they know ... See Morewhich wedge she used. This is the same press—or is it—that cannot locate Obama's birth certificate, any of his college papers, financial records, or transcripts, or what passport he used when traveled to Pakistan when travel there was prohibited for U. S. citizens.)
    Prolly classified
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    Let's think positive, maybe we'll find out what they did with the spacecraft at Area 51.
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    Cheney looking at the foolish bastard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BillR View Post
    Yup, saw that too! The Klown signed away US soveriegnty!!!

    Where is the press?!?!?
    (I wish I wrote this: I think it's remarkable that the press can find every woman Tiger Woods has had an affair with the last few years; with photos, text messages, recorded phone calls, etc. They know not only the cause of the family fight, but even know it was a wedge from his golf bag that she used to break out the windows in the escalade. Not only that, they know ... See Morewhich wedge she used. This is the same press—or is it—that cannot locate Obama's birth certificate, any of his college papers, financial records, or transcripts, or what passport he used when traveled to Pakistan when travel there was prohibited for U. S. citizens.)
    It took me less than five seconds to find thsi one
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    Wobble again that is fake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve 1 View Post
    Wobble again that is fake.
    it is a copy, obviously. If the whole Republican party and the whole worlds press with all their resources and two years of time cant prove any different then I am inclined to accept it as valid.

    Grasping at straws is a waste of time and in this case wont change the political reality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wobble View Post
    it is a copy, obviously. If the whole Republican party and the whole worlds press with all their resources and two years of time cant prove any different then I am inclined to accept it as valid.

    Grasping at straws is a waste of time and in this case wont change the political reality.

    Where is the embossed seal and the registrar's signature on that piece of crap you posted?
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    And Why do I have to point these things out to you "Expert" Hussein Voters?
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