What ever happened to that web site and anyone know what the real story behind it was? Was it a joke? Legit?
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10-15-2009 06:50 PM
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10-15-2009 06:59 PMI thik it was his son trying to get funds to get him out ??!!!
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10-16-2009 01:27 AMand use the the funds for what? Another helicopter charter? Originally Posted by DAREDEVIL
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10-16-2009 02:06 AMjetpack...helicopters are so oldschool....
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10-18-2009 01:15 PMBen apparently has some action that would allow him to have the RICO part of his case overturned which would then give him new sentencing which he at this point would have done time served on as well as the rest of the convictions he has which he has already served at this point!!!!
God forgives.....The 1% doesn't!!!!!!
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10-18-2009 01:33 PMWell if thats the case i think it would be easy to raise some cash
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10-18-2009 02:16 PMHe'll die where he is. What motivation would the State of Florida and the US DoJ have to release a major dope smuggler and confessed capital murderer?
It's not like we're talking about the freeing of Mandela from prison. But by present standards he's probabaly qualified for a Nobel.
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10-18-2009 02:38 PMAGAIN,,,he is not a confessed murderer !!!!!! Originally Posted by Chris
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10-18-2009 02:38 PMeh, let him out on the condition he has to race again. Look at it this way, the price of weed would prob plunge for all you pot heads
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10-18-2009 02:44 PMwin win!! Originally Posted by Dollabill
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10-18-2009 02:49 PMon legal terms DD is right.
He took a no contest so he didnīt challenge the accusations.
And the motive was to get to a better facility.
He shoulda done it in Sweden...
I know a few guys who served time during summers by a lake in a log cabin village that was fenced but the gate was open..
Guys were sentenced to the biggest tax fraud in Sweden, hiring illegal manpower for constructions, money laundering etc etc..
Well at least the Globen was built in time...and the sentences considered a joke overhere ..Offshore Racing wasnīt designed to be a spectator sport, it's for people or companies with's lots of money to push the envelope of endurance technology and hopefully put a trophy on a mantle. It's man vs the elements, not like boats with like engines running in circles.
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10-18-2009 02:55 PMAll he has to do it write a book and he'll have all the $$ he needs to get out.
Look for a copy of Thunderboat Row lately?
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10-18-2009 02:59 PMhe could do even a fiction book or Screenwriting... think Cocaine Cowboys...
Offshore Racing wasnīt designed to be a spectator sport, it's for people or companies with's lots of money to push the envelope of endurance technology and hopefully put a trophy on a mantle. It's man vs the elements, not like boats with like engines running in circles.
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10-18-2009 03:37 PMNo contest means that you don't dispute the charges and accept the consequences. And you surrender any and all right to appeal. You're splitting hairs on the "didn't confess" aspect. And the politicians who will make the decisions on his release know there's really no difference.
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10-18-2009 04:36 PM Originally Posted by Chris
Chris.... Though it happens infrequently, and may be the result generalization , you are wrong on this one. While the right to appeal on a nolo contendre varies from state to state on restrictiveness, it is not wholly without appeal. it gets even more complicated when you begin throwing Alford pleas in the mix. What most don't understand is the primary reason for the no contest plea. Although it has become a popular way of accepting a plea bargain to a lessor charge, the actual intent on pleading no contest is that it can not be used as a conviction in civil proceedings.
this means that if you drive drunk and hit somebody, you can plead no contest to the criminal charge, but in the civil case, they can NOT imply or state that you were convicted of drunk driving. it is up to the prosecuting atty to prove that you were driving drunk, the criminal convection cannot be admitted.Last edited by phragle; 10-18-2009 at 04:57 PM.
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10-18-2009 04:43 PMI did not know that. Hmmmm, next time......
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10-18-2009 06:04 PMIn Florida, it doesn't work that way. Florida held in 2005 that "no contest" convictions may be treated as prior convictions for the purposes of future sentencing. http://www.floridasupremecourt.org/d.../sc02-1943.pdf Originally Posted by phragle
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10-18-2009 06:08 PMNo contest,,,to me means i don't say anything,,,,neither dispute or agree !!!
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10-18-2009 06:25 PMThe textbook definition of nolo contendere is pretty much found in the english translation of that latin term. "No contest". Or more plainly, "I do not contest the facts put forth by the State, nor any punishment handed down should the court find me guilty." Originally Posted by DAREDEVIL
You get three choices; guilty, not guilty or no contest. If you choose not to take one, the judge will procedurally enter a plea of not guilty and bind you over for trial on the charges.
"I ain't sayin' $hit" is typically not an acceptable plea in most jurisdictions.
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10-19-2009 09:58 AMTypically means; "faack, I'm dead in the water with all the chit they have against me so I better just get it over with so they don't totally rip me an even bigger a-hole!" Originally Posted by DAREDEVIL
Can also mean; "Even if I beat this case, they're going to screw me on the next one even worse."
No contest = guilty in my eyes, otherwise you fight to the death....
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