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    IMO,
    First of all Steve/Gary and Randy/Colby ran great and you have to run well against the top teams.
    The Fountain might have proped a little short but they did not miss the set up by much.
    If they would have gone too snall then they should have had much more accelaration than Steve and Randy at start. They did not.
    We will see what happens on Friday and Sunday, hopefully it will get just a bit rougher.
    Again,
    Fantastic driving by Gary. I spoke to Randy and he said Gary drove a great race.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Wil Ros View Post
    IMO,
    First of all Steve/Gary and Randy/Colby ran great and you have to run well against the top teams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wil Ros View Post
    IMO,
    First of all Steve/Gary and Randy/Colby ran great and you have to run well against the top teams.
    The Fountain might have proped a little short but they did not miss the set up by much.
    If they would have gone too snall then they should have had much more accelaration than Steve and Randy at start. They did not.
    We will see what happens on Friday and Sunday, hopefully it will get just a bit rougher.
    Again,
    Fantastic driving by Gary. I spoke to Randy and he said Gary drove a great race.


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    Wil, I do not know how many times you have actually seen the Fountain run this year but I have seen it several times and can tell you that they either had a hurt motor or missed their setup HUGE. I do agree that they did not go too small on the prop. I saw SunPrint and Typhoon out accelerate them coming out of the harbor turn. I also heard they were not on the rev-limiter at all, which leads me to this: A few years ago the Super V teams started running 1:36 gears in calm races for better top end. That set up kills acceleration, however. Given Fountain's connection to Super V, what are the chances that they actually ran a 1:36 gear?
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    We would have most certainly ran the 1:36 with a 31 in those conditions on our SV.
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    Mike,

    As it is usual I heard completely the opposite. I heard the were hitting the rev limiter going into harbor.
    As far as the 1:36 gear ratios in SVL, It does not work for race conditions,even in flat water. 1:50 is plenty for flat and we tried 1:65 and also it did not work for us.
    In SV the only reason the 1:50 is not used is because you run out of prop picth, when the SV went to the 6's that problem went away.

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    All this is speculative at best as far is the funtain goes. Steve and Randy need to be ready for Friday.

    I still believe that they can be competitive!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike A. View Post
    So, what is the consensus on why the Fountain was so slow yesterday? Prop? Gear? Hurt motor?

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    If I posted the actual consenses I've heard, the place would explode again. We'll just have to wait and see what happens.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike A. View Post
    So, what is the consensus on why the Fountain was so slow yesterday? Prop? Gear? Hurt motor?
    well it was said ,,they were all over the revlimiter ..or sounded like !! we know they didn,t prop short ,,randy beat them to turn one ,,so maybe it was not the revlimiter ,but a broken rocker arm ,,high rpm,s will kill them,,
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2TR View Post
    Well, finally here and in the room. Nice suite overlooking two bigazz f'n cruise ships......

    Hopefully they'll be gone soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wahoo 214 View Post
    We would have most certainly ran the 1:36 with a 31 in those conditions on our SV.
    Hey Dean, explain that to me. I bought the JBS Super V and it came with 1:36 gears. We only ran it a few times before sending it in for a face lift, but full of fuel it is an absolute pig on acceleration. My guess is it will pick up with a lighter fuel load, but is the top end increase really enough to overcome the total lack of acceleration in race conditions? Hard to believe but I guess it must since so many are running that combination.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wil Ros View Post
    Mike,

    As it is usual I heard completely the opposite. I heard the were hitting the rev limiter going into harbor.
    Hahaha. That is so freaking true ain't it? Damn. No doubt this is all speculation but that is what makes racing, and being fans of racing, so much fun. Obviously, Randy and Steve can be competitive down there; they both beat the Fountain. All I am saying is that the Fountain was a much different boat on Wednesday than it has been all year. Do not know why, just know. We will see tomorrow for sure, and I hope I have been wrong all year, but I think it is wishful. What are the conditions supposed to be like tomorrow?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike A. View Post
    Hahaha. That is so freaking true ain't it? Damn. No doubt this is all speculation but that is what makes racing, and being fans of racing, so much fun. Obviously, Randy and Steve can be competitive down there; they both beat the Fountain. All I am saying is that the Fountain was a much different boat on Wednesday than it has been all year. Do not know why, just know. We will see tomorrow for sure, and I hope I have been wrong all year, but I think it is wishful. What are the conditions supposed to be like tomorrow?
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    SEAS INSIDE THE REEF 2 TO 3 FEET. NEARSHORE WATERS CHOPPY TO ROUGH.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratickle View Post
    NOAA

    FRIDAY AND FRIDAY NIGHT
    NORTHEAST WINDS 15 TO 20 KNOTS AND GUSTY.
    SEAS BEYOND THE REEF 4 TO 7 FEET...EXCEPT HIGHER IN THE GULF STREAM.
    SEAS INSIDE THE REEF 2 TO 3 FEET. NEARSHORE WATERS CHOPPY TO ROUGH.
    ISOLATED SHOWERS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike A. View Post
    Ain't Key West grand? I really miss racing...
    Get your butt back in a boat.
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    QUOTE=Ratickle;530590]Get your butt back in a boat.[/QUOTE]

    I'd like to, but how can someone pick from 500 classes and myriad rules with barely any enforcement?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike A. View Post
    QUOTE=Ratickle;530590]Get your butt back in a boat.
    I'd like to, but how can someone pick from 500 classes and myriad rules with barely any enforcement?

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    Workin on it......

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    We will see on Friday.

    So why did Randy run into the Fountain???
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    Accidents happen all the time when racing hard.
    My understanding was it happened in turn 3 or harbor turn.
    Randy was on the inside and boats came together.
    It's not the first time or the last a little rubbing will go on.
    Tomorrow should be a blast!

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    will the times be the same tomorrow as was wed ,?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dunbar 104 View Post
    We will see on Friday.

    So why did Randy run into the Fountain???
    because you guys were too scared to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SVL66 View Post
    because you guys were too scared to.
    doooo,,,,,
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