Hull manufacture picked for New Racing Series

[MANITIE]

I got a phone call today from my rep from GM.....it looks like we are going to come to agreement on the engine manufacture deal....its not what I wanted overall but will take what we can get.....it will now come down to what we can get on the rigging equipment.....and so you now know....GM will be the engine manufacture.....

[MANITIE]

So the engine is a GM 454 Racing engine that is currently being run in the ASA Series....its a proven race engine and the guys at Scorpion Racing will be the engine builders.....I want to thank Frank at Scorpion for joining the Series and being behind our engines and they are currently doing the engine sealing and dynoing this same engine in the ASA Series.....I have a good relationship with the folks at GM and they are excited in the new Series...

So now we have to make some money on the rigging parts....I will be talking to Tyler on Monday to see what #'s were at.....

[tarzan]

WOW ! great

[Rated r]

[QUOTE=MANITIE;164543]So the engine is a GM 454 Racing engine that is currently being run in the ASA Series....QUOTE]

Is that cubic inch, because I think ASA is restricted to 358 c.i. motors. Now if that's HP, then that's possible.

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So the engine is a GM 454 Racing engine that is currently being run in the ASA Series....its a proven race engine and the guys at Scorpion Racing will be the engine builders.....I want to thank Frank at Scorpion for joining the Series and being behind our engines and they are currently doing the engine sealing and dynoing this same engine in the ASA Series.....I have a good relationship with the folks at GM and they are excited in the new Series...

So now we have to make some money on the rigging parts....I will be talking to Tyler on Monday to see what #'s were at.....

Outstanding news gino.......everyone should be real pleased with the engine manufacture and engine builder....Frank and phil are one of the marine industries best..I truly expect Scorpion to be the next big name in the marine industry...Their shop is cleaner than a operating room......

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few more pics......The racers that use his engines cant put a price on his race support either, frank was at every race their to help with any issues the boats had.....Now if i could just get back to work so i can buy a joker and compete with you guys.....

[MANITIE]

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So the engine is a GM 454 Racing engine that is currently being run in the ASA Series....QUOTE]

Is that cubic inch, because I think ASA is restricted to 358 c.i. motors. Now if that's HP, then that's possible.

Sorry...we are not going with the 604 create engine that the ASA Series is using...we will be going with the 454...We don't know the exact HP that we will need to get to 75 mph....the thinking is around 450hp...but will be looking at the torque to get good acceleration so the boat can also be run in Class 6...We are working on ways to eliminate any cheating....I think Frank will have that compleatly covered....plus with the very simple rule of "if anything on the boat is changed from the engine to drive to rigging...the owner, driver, throttleman and boat will no longer be qualified to race in the Series"....will eliminate most attempts......I will be calling Tyler today to see what we can do on the rigging equipment.....

[MANITIE]

Outstanding news gino.......everyone should be real pleased with the engine manufacture and engine builder....Frank and phil are one of the marine industries best..I truly expect Scorpion to be the next big name in the marine industry...Their shop is cleaner than a operating room......

Nocigarette......Thanks for posting the pics....I have heard great things about Frank and Phil...and look foward to working together with them....I think once everyone gets to see the first boat racing and can put ther hands on it...it will be easier to see the potental this Series will have....

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I could not agree more with ya gino......I am real excited for you guys, i think you really have made all the right moves with this series.....Frank as ya know has done a lot of sealed (no cheat) motors....He builds dependable engines that win races and last......Peter meyer (hard rock casino) won the Key West worlds with first place in all three races,national sbi champ for 2008 and florida high points champion....

[rschap1]

Make sure you schedule ALOT (if not ALL) your races in the West Michigan area. Real close to me. THANKS!

[MANITIE]

Make sure you schedule ALOT (if not ALL) your races in the West Michigan area. Real close to me. THANKS!

We are going to rig and test my boat up there....with Franks shop and Tylers...we can make any changes we need quick....and since Tyler has the latest 26 Joker....he will be able to give us some good input.....

[THEJOKER]

Looking good Gino. Let me know when to start!

[MANITIE]

Hey guys....just an update....I talked to Tyler and he is going over the list...
I have been working on some back up plans if the price list is still to high...
I'm trying to cut cost every which way we can to keep this price down....
I'm working on a back up that we might be able to have a leased engine to cut the cost down by 20% and then have a option to own with it....

[THEJOKER]

Tyler / Gino:

How's it looking?

[MANITIE]

I shoot him a email of the list again before I left on a cruise last week...I'm sure he is going over it....

[MANITIE]

Well....we have not been able to get the price of the race boat under 50k...
With the hull and engine price out...its the parts pricing is were we are having the most problem.....companys are not willing to put up the investment to sponsor a lot of the parts...while some of the parts have been put up for sponsorship....the high dollar parts were not being sponsored...

I will leave this project open and will still make the investment if something changes in the pricing.....if anyone has any conections that we have not already tried that you think would help us..please let us know....in the mean time I need to purchase a boat to race now....

I hope in the near furture we will be able to put this Series together....I feel it will be succesfull....

Thanks to Brian at Joker Powerboats, Frank at Scorpion and the guys at GM that have put in the time to put this on the map....

Thanks,
Gino

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That blows.......Can ya tell us where the costs need to be cut at.....Or which parts are not being sponsored...There has to be some way to make this work, it has been a while since someone has tried to level the playing field on the race course........Thanks for all your effort gino...Keep pushing....

[MANITIE]

That blows.......Can ya tell us where the costs need to be cut at.....Or which parts are not being sponsored...There has to be some way to make this work, it has been a while since someone has tried to level the playing field on the race course........Thanks for all your effort gino...Keep pushing....

Well...the biggest costs were the gimble, drive (xr) and sterring systems and trim tabs and pumps...

Parts like battery boxes, guages, wiring, were fairly easy to get sponsorships on half the price....

I have been informed with some of the companys that when things turn around for them and start doing some bussiness again that they would be interested in doing something for us....

[Wahoo 214]

Gino, I don't know anything about them but isn't a Chinesse company making Merc copy drives for about ha;f the price. May be they want to bulid a new for themselves. Just a thought.

[phragle]

Dean.. are you thinking of SEI?? so far they are only doing alpha's and bravo lowers no gimble assemblies.