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    Quote Originally Posted by OldSchool View Post
    Hmmmm... I can't quite put my finger on it....but that sounds like someone else as well!
    Hey son.

    Try being less obvious.

    Good thing for you you dont have to hunt for what you eat.
    You can hear you comin from a mile away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by catastrophe View Post
    Hey son.

    Try being less obvious.

    Good thing for you you dont have to hunt for what you eat.
    You can hear you comin from a mile away.
    Classic
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    Quote Originally Posted by phragle View Post
    I like extra butter..but you have to watch the salt...leads to high bloodpressure and getting your knickers in a twist about something as simple as a post on the internet....
    My Bloodpressure shifts from 55-65/95-110 so no problem there...but I got a Big heart what they tell... or a leaking heart like my family has.
    Normal pulse at under 60 all times while being still....usually close to 40.
    Thenagain...lullabying in that cocoon will give me a heart attack which takes me out only once and I´m fine with that.
    Going out in a blaze of glory...
    Offshore Racing wasn´t designed to be a spectator sport, it's for people or companies with's lots of money to push the envelope of endurance technology and hopefully put a trophy on a mantle. It's man vs the elements, not like boats with like engines running in circles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldSchool View Post
    Hmmmm... I can't quite put my finger on it....but that sounds like someone else as well!
    It does....YOU !!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by cashbrain View Post
    More stupid...the assets were sold for alot of $$$...
    I may have missed it, but please describe these assets?
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    Did you miss the pics?
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    Quote Originally Posted by cashbrain View Post
    Did you miss the pics?
    Weren't those described as some one else's shop/molds/boats extra? Please understand I am not being confrontational like some of the other people posting. I am just asking questions.
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    That was Bobby and Eric's shop..Thad bought the Cherokee company and the assets along with the rights that I had to complete the deal.
    They had everything to build boats in two bays...

    That was also the location that I told Thad we should stay at until we had a few sales under our belt...
    That didn't happen...he just threw money at this like a drunken sailor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cashbrain View Post
    That was Bobby and Eric's shop..Thad bought the Cherokee company and the assets along with the rights that I had to complete the deal.
    They had everything to build boats in two bays...

    That was also the location that I told Thad we should stay at until we had a few sales under our belt...
    That didn't happen...he just threw money at this like a drunken sailor.
    If you owned the right/company could you not control the spending? Did you have to have the boats built in his shop?
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    Trademark rights are usually separate from a business entity although they can be an asset of the company,so the answer is no.
    Thad was the investor,it was his money,and I tried to spend it wisely...I wanted to build the boats where we were and concentrate on Poker Runs..
    Thad? Not so much..he went nuts with spending
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    Quote Originally Posted by cashbrain View Post
    Trademark rights are usually separate from a business entity although they can be an asset of the company,so the answer is no.
    Thad was the investor,it was his money,and I tried to spend it wisely...
    Thad?Not so much
    So he brought the cash, and you were the brains?
    Warning: This post may contain language unsuitable for minors or math not suitable for liberal-arts majors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fund razor View Post
    So he brought the cash, and you were the brains?

    Son..you need to sit on the side lines...
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    Quote Originally Posted by cashbrain View Post
    It does....YOU !!!

    Hmmm, nope, think I've seen him in a boat, that is actually his....
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    Maybe I am off base, but it sounds like you owned a trademark. Not sure if I agree that justifies "owning" Apache, but that is my interpretation. It also sounds like you surrounded your self with the wrong people when you tried to turn the trade mark into a boat company. While I am sure there were many factors that came into play that caused the failure of said boat company. I think you clearly hold at minimum partial responsibility of that failure. No big deal. Lots of companies fail for various reasons. But instead of pointing fingers you should say WE phucked up. I think it may gain you some respect on this board....maybe. Again IMHO
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    Quote Originally Posted by Davidmnc View Post
    Maybe I am off base, but it sounds like you owned a trademark. Not sure if I agree that justifies "owning" Apache, but that is my interpretation. It also sounds like you surrounded your self with the wrong people when you tried to turn the trade mark into a boat company. While I am sure there were many factors that came into play that caused the failure of said boat company. I think you clearly hold at minimum partial responsibility of that failure. No big deal. Lots of companies fail for various reasons. But instead of pointing fingers you should say WE phucked up. I think it may gain you some respect on this board....maybe. Again IMHO

    When I sold the rights to APACHE, I was no longer involved in the company going forward. Thad and Bobby ran with the deal and I had no involvement.
    I promised Bobby that I would not stand in the way of a deal and I kept true to my word. I could have and Thad or McManus wouldn't have had anything...

    While we were assembling the deal, I was involved to the extent of setting things up, but walked away when Thad turned out to be a douche.

    Not sure how you can translate that into being"partially responsible"
    For me,it was merely a paper transaction at that time.
    I didn't screw up..I was out of the deal when all the crap happened.
    I think you may not understand the timeline.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cashbrain View Post
    When I sold the rights to APACHE, I was no longer involved in the company going forward. Thad and Bobby ran with the deal and I had no involvement.
    I promised Bobby that I would not stand in the way of a deal and I kept true to my word. I could have and Thad or McManus wouldn't have had anything...

    While we were assembling the deal, I was involved to the extent of setting things up, but walked away when Thad turned out to be a douche.

    Not sure how you can translate that into being"partially responsible"
    For me,it was merely a paper transaction at that time.
    I didn't screw up..I was out of the deal when all the crap happened.
    I think you may not understand the timeline.
    Maybe not. I would love to see it laid out so we can all understand better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ted View Post
    Hmmm, nope, think I've seen him in a boat, that is actually his....
    Dude, Don't mess up this thread with facts!!!

    .....but here's boat #2 of the fleet...
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldSchool View Post
    Dude, Don't mess up this thread with facts!!!

    .....but here's boat #2 of the fleet...
    WTF??? Do you have pants on in that pick!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Davidmnc View Post
    WTF??? Do you have pants on in that pick!
    LMAO!! Yes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Davidmnc View Post
    WTF??? Do you have pants on in that pick!
    I don't know about pants but he could use a bra
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