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    Quote Originally Posted by Geronimo36 View Post
    Tell us about the bottom on the cig?

    What about it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geronimo36 View Post
    I never said it wasn't real and I don't really care.

    BTW, you never answered my question... A simple yes or no is all we need.
    How about...Mind your own business?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fund razor View Post
    Hmmm. Re-gifted.
    TIS THE SEASON
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    Quote Originally Posted by cashbrain View Post
    How about...Mind your own business?
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    I will take that for a NO..
    hmmm
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    Quote Originally Posted by catastrophe View Post
    You probably read one of the many threads in this section where people yak incesently about 20 year old boats, that need 3X the horsepower than anything else to make them go , sorta like a walk down memory lane or being a member of the Edsel Car Club.
    Tastes differ. Some people like heavy boats with a great ride and big power. Some people like fish boats with four eggbeaters.

    I like what I like because the water I boat on demands it. If I lived out west and boated on a river I would have a shallow cat. But I live next to a nasty lake with steep, closely spaced waves. Heavy is good. Overbuilt is just a bonus. And big power is... well... fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cashbrain View Post
    I can tell from my experience that Benny is tough,smart, and definitely a larger-than-life figure. Even in the time warp of prison, he is very,very sharp and has incredible stories.
    His focus,as it should be, is to get out. While he was no angel, he was definitely handed a a sentence that was excessive(my opinion) and he has taken one for the team,so to speak. MM said it well that he is a standup guy.
    IMHO..I would take Benny any day as a back up...

    Apache to Ben was his toy..I mean building boats and the boat business.
    In his grand scheme of life,offshore was his passion and his recreation...not a way to make a living.
    Apache was not a profit driven enterprise for him and most likely,he lost money..but, he loved the sport.
    Benny made an indelible impression on me as did Billy Elswick..two enigmatic characters

    Just my opinion...
    Basically drug money funded Apache under his watch, what's so grand about that ? Today he probably would be hooked up with the scum in Mexico.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cashbrain View Post
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    That logo is up in the V-berth in a lot of the 36's, including my own (although it's black).... It's one of my favorites.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geronimo36 View Post
    That logo is up in the V-berth in a lot of the 36's, including my own (although it's black).... It's one of my favorites.

    That is El Indio, Benny's trademark
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    It's in my V-berth and Bill had it added to the transom and the fairing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cashbrain View Post
    What about it?
    I had a problem with a bottom once.... 7 ft section of the keel/chine had to be reomoved and when fixed it was actually better than new..... I blueprinted it while it was being fixed and picked up 2-3 mph... That was before digital camera's....

    Blood sweat and tears....
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    Quote Originally Posted by TCEd View Post
    Basically drug money funded Apache under his watch, what's so grand about that ?
    It's grand if they used over $150,000 in materials for a $150,000 retail boat... cause they could.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geronimo36 View Post
    I had a problem with a bottom once.... 7 ft section of the keel/chine had to be reomoved and when fixed it was actually better than new..... I blueprinted it while it was being fixed and picked up 2-3 mph... That was before digital camera's....

    Blood sweat and tears....
    Well I had an idiot in Michigan that screwed up minor repairs(emphasis is on minor..cosmetic) and made them worse by grinding them out and not filling correctly.
    Fixed the boat correctly and sold the boat. The owner calls me every now and then and tells me how much he loves it..
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    Quote Originally Posted by fund razor View Post
    It's in my V-berth and Bill had it added to the transom and the fairing.

    Funny..Bobby built boat with Benny's logo. They are mixed all over the place.
    When Bobby and Benny split, they each had there own logo.

    Bobby=Rueben-from an oar company
    Benny=El Indio-from a matchbox in Columbia
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    Quote Originally Posted by cashbrain View Post
    They are mixed all over the place.
    And vice versa...

    They also shared booth space at boat shows and co-marketed products under Apache even though they were two seperate companies... This is from Bob direct.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geronimo36 View Post
    And vice versa...

    They also shared booth space at boat shows and co-marketed products under Apache even though they were two seperate companies... This is from Bob direct.....

    Yes..That is what Bob told me also.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cashbrain View Post
    Bobby=Rueben-from an $5 gold coin
    Edited your post for ya....

    Only the "right's" came from the oar company, not the logo.


    PS, bustin you chops Jack...
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrCig View Post
    Watch that Pauly guy that drives the Azimut. LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geronimo36 View Post
    Edited your post for ya....

    Only the "right's" came from the oar company, not the logo.


    PS, bustin you chops Jack...
    The logo that I posted was the original oar company logo
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    Apache was an oar company?
    Taking Over the World One Thread at a Time
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