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    I am interviewing for an new internal position at my corporation. This is a new team that is being developed.

    I know that the guy competing for this position is well qualified and, is a former employee of the company. (I don't know him personally.)

    I am super excited about the position/team. I've already interviewed (well) with the two managers over the new team, and I have three more interviews upcoming.
    One person who will be a peer--I don't know at all.
    One person who will be supported by the new team--I know a bit.
    Second person who will be supported by the new team--I know and get along with very well.

    This is my first time vying for an internal corporate position. I did not originally throw my name into the hat; but a very well company respected colleague sat me down and told me this was the right position for me to pursue, and I feel he is right, after he explained it to me.

    I have already showed a lot of enthusiasm for the position, and quite a few people believe I am right for it. It's actually hard to control my excitement, but my enthusiasm is actually helping to promote myself for the position, at this point.

    I'm looking for advice on anything you folks have come across before which would be significant "dos" and "don'ts" in this situation.

    Thanks in advance; MUCH appreciated.
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    Ok Brian, I have been down this road. Here's what worked for me:

    Forget about the other candidate and concentrate on picturing yourself doing the job. That way, what you give off at the interview will be confident and calm. Concentrate on what the colleague said that made you believe you were the right one. Nothing wrong with the enthusiasm, it's kind of refreshing these days I think.

    The botton line is... they will hire the person that they can picture doing the job and fostering collaboration and cooperation within the new team.

    Good luck.
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    I could Gilooly him for you and whilst he is out recovering the position will be yours. You are my friend for you I will do this.
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    I could Gilooly him for you and whilst he is out recovering the position will be yours. You are my friend for you I will do this.
    scoop me up on the way down and we'll let Brian gets us drunk on his new raise money after we are done. I'll bring BobbyB if you bring him a car seat; gives us someone besides me to pick on
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    Confidence. You have one leg up. Any good company will always promote a qualified, good person from within before hiring from the outside. Doesn't matter if they used to work there or not. (Unless they're related to, or slept with, the owner).

    Picture yourself interviewing candidates for a position that reports to you. Good eye contact, lean forward - show interest, LISTEN - you have to show you're paying attention.

    The biggest thing to remember, you are selling yourself. You are only competing with yourself. You know the position, prove it. You know the company, prove it. Your history at the company got you the interview, it's yours if you display the confidence and desire you showed in this inquiry.


    From Career Builder, they have lots of advice. Most you already know, I'm sure. But check them out.

    And practice if you see something that you do negative. I've only ever not been hired once when I've managed to get the interview.

    Reading and understanding body language is critical to your success in a job interview. Nonverbal communication equips you to understand what interviewers are thinking, helping you tweak your body language to get them to like you ... and offer you the job!

    1. The wet fish versus the bone crusher
    The handshake tells a story about each of us. Do you shake hands softly? Do you come in from the top and deliver a "bone crusher"? Aggressive people have firm handshakes; those with low self-esteem have limp, "wet fish" handshakes.

    A great handshake is a three-step process:

    · Make sure your hands are clean and adequately manicured.

    · Ensure hands are warm but free of perspiration.

    · Execute your handshake professionally and politely, with a firm grip and a warm smile.

    2. The eyes have it
    What's considered an appropriate amount of eye contact may vary in different countries. In North America, 60 percent eye contact is a safe figure -- one that can give hiring managers a feeling of comfort about you. More eye contact than this and you may seem too intense; any less and you risk appearing uninterested.

    Eye-contact tips:

    · When you meet the interviewer, look her right in the eyes, then think to yourself, "Wow, so great to finally meet you!" This will make you smile, and she'll pick up on your positive mood. When we look at someone we find interesting, our pupils dilate, a phenomenon the other person instinctively picks up on.

    · During a job interview, keep your eye contact in the upside-down triangle area of your interviewer's face: from the left eyebrow, to the nose, back up to the right eyebrow.

    Warning: Staring at a person's lips is considered sexual, while looking at their forehead is considered condescending.

    3. Get it straight
    Posture is an important thing to master on an interview: Get your posture straight and your confidence will rise with it. Next time you notice you are feeling a bit down, pay attention to how you are sitting or standing. Chances are you'll be slouched over with your shoulders drooping down and inward. This collapses the chest and inhibits breathing, which can make you feel nervous or uncomfortable.

    4. Get a "head" of the game
    When you want to feel confident and self-assured during an interview, keep your head level, both horizontally and vertically. Also assume this position when your goal is to be taken seriously. Conversely, when you want to be friendly and in the listening, receptive mode, tilt your head just a little to one side or the other.

    5. Arms lend a hand, too
    Arms offer clues as to how open and receptive we are, so keep your arms to the side of your body. This shows you are not scared to take on whatever comes your way.

    Quieter people tend to move their arms away from their body less often than outgoing people, who use their arms with big movements. Keep gestures within the frame of your body, or you'll risk being seen as out of control. Avoid the negative action of crossing your arms during the interview.

    Here are two common perceptions of hand gestures:

    · Palms slightly up and outward: open and friendly

    · Palm-down gestures: dominant and possibly aggressive

    6. Get a leg up on the competition
    Our legs tend to move around a lot more than normal when we are nervous, stressed or being deceptive. As a result, try to keep them as still as possible during the interview. You should not cross your legs during a job interview, as it creates a barrier between you and the interviewer and may lead to fidgeting. When you cross your ankle at the knee, this is known as the "figure four," and is generally perceived as the most defensive leg cross.
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    good stuff here.

    Write a 90, 120, 180 day plan before your next interviews. Vision is a mighty powerful thing. knowing where you want to go will speak volumes for you.
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    You could try all that other crap, or you could just tell 'em you are not one of Stecz' people. They might even give you a higher position and a better pay package.
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    I could Gilooly him for you and whilst he is out recovering the position will be yours. You are my friend for you I will do this.
    It took a second to peg the Tonya harding reference.
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    OK, so I got passed over on the first round. However, I have just been asked to join the team due to a recent opening. (Joining the guy who got the billet I was interviewing for.) He's actually a decent guy, and was not a bad choice.

    However, they money is still funny. How do I convince them to make it more attractive for me to feel like I am moving up and not moving over--WITHOUT seeming greedy and wrapped around the axle about money?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sydwayz View Post
    OK, so I got passed over on the first round. However, I have just been asked to join the team due to a recent opening. (Joining the guy who got the billet I was interviewing for.) He's actually a decent guy, and was not a bad choice.

    However, they money is still funny. How do I convince them to make it more attractive for me to feel like I am moving up and not moving over--WITHOUT seeming greedy and wrapped around the axle about money?
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    It took a second to peg the Tonya harding reference.
    Wow, I thought he was just planning on making a really unflattering and poorly produced porno with him...


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