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    get a new truck in the next year or so, the next generation is being designed and developed in Brazil. they can grow coffee, and party in Rio, but what the hell do they know about trucks??????
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    Quote Originally Posted by phragle View Post
    get a new truck in the next year or so, the next generation is being designed and developed in Brazil. they can grow coffee, and party in Rio, but what the hell do they know about trucks??????
    Uhm....unless you tow with a little S10 sized truck, no, not true. The GMT900, designed right in Detroit, will be around for quite some time.

    The next gen will be as well.
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    RlJ676 I see you on PerformanceBoats.com all the time defending GM, As a loyal employee I can understand you wanting Gm to to good but If they could not get their poop together the last 5 years what will make it different now? My brother has a duramax with 70,000 miles under waranty that the dealer says one piston left the country. GM refuses to fix the truck and now my brother has to sue GM to get his truck fixed, and by the way the truck has no power adders just exuast and air filter mods.
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    Brazil has had it's own version of the GM small truck since the S10. I suspect it will be their new version of the Colorado to be marketed in Brazil.
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    la cucuracha...la cucuracha
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    GM has about 4 days left .
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    Never Happen they may end up in chapter 11 but they are not going anywhere
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    Quote Originally Posted by Expensive Date View Post
    Never Happen they may end up in chapter 11 but they are not going anywhere
    Hopefully they end up in Ch 11 and don't get a bail out(band aid)....

    They will come back lean and mean if they can file and not get a handout.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sea-Dated View Post
    Hopefully they end up in Ch 11 and don't get a bail out(band aid)....

    They will come back lean and mean if they can file and not get a handout.
    If they don't get the bail out and file chapter 11, it will cause more harm than you guy's could ever dream, it's scary to think that if that would happen how many company's would go down with them
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    If they don't get the bail out and file chapter 11, it will cause more harm than you guy's could ever dream, it's scary to think that if that would happen how many company's would go down with them
    You obviously have no idea how Chapter 11 works. The intent is to keep them around. Throwing money at them right now won't save them. Until the average consumer has time to reduce their debt and increase their savings nothing will change.
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    GM needs to tighten up/ lose a few car lines.

    GMC for trucks
    Cadillac for luxury
    Chevy for performance (Camaro/Corvette) down to regular cars/economy cars


    Saturn/Saab/Hummer/Pontiac/Buick need to be sold/closed.

    If a particular car/SUV is a good seller then it should get rebadged in the correct market and put in the Chevy/GMC/Cadillac line-up.

    Chrysler is a private company and shouldn't get assistance. But they need to consolidate as well (Dodge for trucks, Jeep for Wranglers/Cherokees and Chrysler for minivans/higher end cars). Stop production of economy products/mini Jeeps like Compass/Liberty and goofy crossovers like Calibers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JupiterSunsation View Post
    GM needs to tighten up/ lose a few car lines.

    GMC for trucks
    Cadillac for luxury
    Chevy for performance (Camaro/Corvette) down to regular cars/economy cars


    Saturn/Saab/Hummer/Pontiac/Buick need to be sold/closed.

    If a particular car/SUV is a good seller then it should get rebadged in the correct market and put in the Chevy/GMC/Cadillac line-up.

    Chrysler is a private company and shouldn't get assistance. But they need to consolidate as well (Dodge for trucks, Jeep for Wranglers/Cherokees and Chrysler for minivans/higher end cars). Stop production of economy products/mini Jeeps like Compass/Liberty and goofy crossovers like Calibers.
    Totally agree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by phragle View Post
    get a new truck in the next year or so, the next generation is being designed and developed in Brazil. they can grow coffee, and party in Rio, but what the hell do they know about trucks??????
    Where did you hear that? The 900 program is done right here in Michigan.
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    Totally agree.
    +1! I posted a plan like that in one of the other auto threads.

    7 of the same car with 7 different names and $2K added on the cost for the differences which amount to a few name badges and the steering wheel
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave View Post
    You obviously have no idea how Chapter 11 works. The intent is to keep them around. Throwing money at them right now won't save them. Until the average consumer has time to reduce their debt and increase their savings nothing will change.
    I know the intent is to keep them around, but the truth behind the picture is that they owe so many small shops money for work and parts that they small guys would have no choice but to close up shop, but hey that won't affect you, so why would you care...
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    I have a 1995 GMC / Chevy K1500 with over 330,000 hard run miles. Most pulling a boat. Never had the intake, oilpan or valvecovers off.
    The wife thinks we need a new one.
    someday I may think about changing spark plugs...
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    Pontiac needs to stay.........
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    Quote Originally Posted by BUIZILLA View Post
    Pontiac needs to stay.........
    Besides the Firebird and G8, what else is worthy anymore? Sure, HUGE history with the brand but going forward it's one I could see not being missed long term.

    Does anyone truly miss Oldsmobile? Does anyone under 60 drive a Buick (not counting China where it's the no. 1 brand for some crazy reason)?

    GM could finally shut Ford the f*ck up with their pickup sales claims if they consolidated the truck brands under one name. It kills me every time I hear "Ford is the #1 selling truck brand"...only because Chevy and GMC aren't added together.

    Sorry Jim...my first day posting here and I'm going off on a "local"...
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    welp, ya gotta good point without Firebird...
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    Quote Originally Posted by sledge View Post
    Does anyone under 60 drive a Buick (not counting China where it's the no. 1 brand for some crazy reason)?
    It's because Tiger Woods is Chinese, I think.
    Warning: This post may contain language unsuitable for minors or math not suitable for liberal-arts majors.
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