paul , yes you should merge these two threads, and if you go back to the Auction site you will find that Claremount has either matched or won the rights to the molds which more or less looks like he has claimed everything .....meaning Stealhead is out which also was mentioned by Denny B (on that other site) who once worked at P.Q.many years ago like Jamie mentioned.. in his last post but non the less one can only imagine what really went on these last few days behind closed doors between the two highest bidders.