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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrhorsepower1 View Post
    I have his cell Doug.
    Good tell that Goat Roper he owe me a Drink

    You coming down to PRI?
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    I'm sorry to hear that

    Actually the old man and I talk A LOT... You need his cell phone number???

    They Ran one of the 892" engines in a Top Sportsman Car with a Turbo 400 in Vegas last weekend. Went 6.37 @ 217 with a bunch left in it. I'll look at the RacePak data and see what it's got left.

    Which intake are you going to use with it?
    There was some decent money on the line for ProStreet this weekend and Frank flew Sonny in to tune every last bit out of his package. It is a very impressive piece to say the least, but thinking there is a bunch left is a bit optomistic. Unfortunately he was asleep on the tree and went out that round to a slower car..
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    Quote Originally Posted by RumRunner View Post
    Good tell that Goat Roper he owe me a Drink

    You coming down to PRI?
    I should be able to make it, I have a lot happening!
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    Quote Originally Posted by HaxbySpeed View Post
    There was some decent money on the line for ProStreet this weekend and Frank flew Sonny in to tune every last bit out of his package. It is a very impressive piece to say the least, but thinking there is a bunch left is a bit optomistic. Unfortunately he was asleep on the tree and went out that round to a slower car..
    Being that tuning race engines is what I do for a living, and knowing where the tune-up is, there is still a bunch left. Now you have to remember a "Bunch" is different in everyone's world depend on how closely you're tuning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrhorsepower1 View Post
    I should be able to make it, I have a lot happening!


    Stop by and check out some of my new 500" stuff....
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    Where was this race? What this PSCA?
    Boat-less...
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    Las Vegas..
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    Quote Originally Posted by RumRunner View Post
    I'm sorry to hear that

    Actually the old man and I talk A LOT... You need his cell phone number???

    They Ran one of the 892" engines in a Top Sportsman Car with a Turbo 400 in Vegas last weekend. Went 6.37 @ 217 with a bunch left in it. I'll look at the RacePak data and see what it's got left.

    Which intake are you going to use with it?
    Now just think there are some good 700+ ci. nitrous cars that can't go that fast. I think in the next 2 years we will see a carberator motor going 6'0s maybe sooner
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velocity Kid View Post
    Now just think there are some good 700+ ci. nitrous cars that can't go that fast. I think in the next 2 years we will see a carberator motor going 6'0s maybe sooner
    Heck we've been 5.96 @ 240 with Carburetors
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    Heck we've been 5.96 @ 240 with Carburetors
    Im talking door car no nitrous on race gas. Like a IHRA Pro Stock
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velocity Kid View Post
    Im talking door car no nitrous on race gas. Like a IHRA Pro Stock
    We've got the P/S record at 6.251 right now. With the weight, and engine rules you're not going to see much quicker than low 20's in a Mountain Motor car any time soon. BUT... There is a Ness car being built right now for PSCA that is going to be light that has the first 892" that Sonny built. Based on the numbers, if Don can get the car the right weight it will be able to run low 6.0's if not quicker...
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    Being that tuning race engines is what I do for a living, and knowing where the tune-up is, there is still a bunch left. Now you have to remember a "Bunch" is different in everyone's world depend on how closely you're tuning.
    I hear ya, they did pick up almost a tenth from qualifying, which is a bunch in anybody's world, and are still working the bugs out on the car. The 6.38 pass was at 2800' dens altitude with about 91.3 ADR. If they can find a half a tenth in tuning and run that thing at a sea level track it'll probably find it's way into the twenties. I'm just jealous cause we need 800hp of nitrous to run in the fifties..
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    We've got the P/S record at 6.251 right now. With the weight, and engine rules you're not going to see much quicker than low 20's in a Mountain Motor car any time soon. BUT... There is a Ness car being built right now for PSCA that is going to be light that has the first 892" that Sonny built. Based on the numbers, if Don can get the car the right weight it will be able to run low 6.0's if not quicker...
    That's what I'm talking about 6.0's keep us posted on that deal. That will be the shot heard around the world. You know times he gets his deal done, Sonny may have found more power in that hemi combo.
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    With door cars going that fast why even have a nitrous car. The Nitrous guys are still behind. Hmmm I wonder if Sonny is going to try to run nitrous on that hemi combo and shoot for 3000 hp. That would be another mild stone
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velocity Kid View Post
    With door cars going that fast why even have a nitrous car. The Nitrous guys are still behind. Hmmm I wonder if Sonny is going to try to run nitrous on that hemi combo and shoot for 3000 hp. That would be another mild stone
    The combunstion chamber in the SEMI-Hemi isn't really good for Nitrous too much quench area, and can cause detonation problems. The other problem is for the Big Nitrous engines is that the engine is heavy. He's working on a wedge head right now with the 5.30" Bore center that should be a pretty good deal on Nitrous.

    3 Tenths is about what you'll get going to a Nitrous engine from a killer P/S engine. We can run mid 20's with a P/S engine, and we can do mid 90's with the Nitrous stuff. Both legal, so light weight you're looking at high 80's on a Nitrous car, and high teens for a P/S in killer air. Now go to the big engine, which knowing where the power curve is on it we should be OK
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    The combunstion chamber in the SEMI-Hemi isn't really good for Nitrous too much quench area, and can cause detonation problems. The other problem is for the Big Nitrous engines is that the engine is heavy. He's working on a wedge head right now with the 5.30" Bore center that should be a pretty good deal on Nitrous.

    3 Tenths is about what you'll get going to a Nitrous engine from a killer P/S engine. We can run mid 20's with a P/S engine, and we can do mid 90's with the Nitrous stuff. Both legal, so light weight you're looking at high 80's on a Nitrous car, and high teens for a P/S in killer air. Now go to the big engine, which knowing where the power curve is on it we should be OK
    How far are you away from the little Genral Waren Johnson.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velocity Kid View Post
    How far are you away from the little Genral Waren Johnson.
    From my house to the old man's shop is about 15 Minutes. About 25 Minutes over to Kaase's.
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    From my house to the old man's shop is about 15 Minutes. About 25 Minutes over to Kaase's.
    Cool do you know were he got the nick name little Genral from. It's a funny story. I also have a funny story when I was at Sonnys back in 93 and we were dyno testing that 765 and Robert Patric was dyno testing his 500 inch P/S stuff next to us
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velocity Kid View Post
    Cool do you know were he got the nick name little Genral from. It's a funny story. I also have a funny story when I was at Sonnys back in 93 and we were dyno testing that 765 and Robert Patric was dyno testing his 500 inch P/S stuff next to us

    Actually I do. Hopefully the new heads for the Ford will turn out pretty good for the 500" guys, just a matter if they're going to do anything with the block or not.
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    Actually I do. Hopefully the new heads for the Ford will turn out pretty good for the 500" guys, just a matter if they're going to do anything with the block or not.
    Only time will tell
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