Donzi 22 vs Cig 20?

[SKATIN]

Here's an outboard Cig..

http://ocala.craigslist.org/boa/1514106536.html

[Offshore Ginger]

There is 20' Cigerette for 6k still availible TRS its all there

And where................ might that be . Artie

[Offshore Ginger]

Beautiful. Boat isn't too shabby either!

[BUIZILLA]

May of had my info wrong, but still the 496 Sutphen is faster than the 20 Cig with an equal 496.

isn't the Sut an 18* bottom vs 22-24* for the others... of course it will be faster... until it gets choppy.. then it's buh byeee

[Team Tsunami]

isn't the Sut an 18* bottom vs 22-24* for the others... of course it will be faster... until it gets choppy.. then it's buh byeee

Have you been in the boat or run the boat? I have. The Sutphen WILL run with them in the chop. You just have to know how to drive a boat. Morgan has run that boat ahead of alot of bigger boats in the chop. It's a great boat. Richie Jr can really build a boat! Even Philly commented on how nice the boats were at the Miami Boat Show. I have also been in a 22 classic Shelby Donzi and the fit and finish wasnt anywhere near the quality on the Cigarette's or Sutphen's.

[BUIZILLA]

i've run next to one for a couple hundred miles in KY... it's a nice boat, I like them, but your claims against the other two are unfounded, if they weren't they would have sold 20-30 of them by now, which they haven't, since neither the Donzi or Cig are currently in production.....

[Team Tsunami]

i've run next to one for a couple hundred miles in KY... it's a nice boat, I like them, but your claims against the other two are unfounded, if they weren't they would have sold 20-30 of them by now, which they haven't, since neither the Donzi or Cig are currently in production.....

They are faster and have a better fit and finish than the Donzi. The boat market is awful!! Nothing is really selling. A 20 Cig or 22 Donzi doesnt run 83mph with a stock 496 HO do they? Also they can run in the chop with both boats. I was wrong about KY and I stated that. Everything else is fact though. I love the 20 Cigarette's and what Philly has done with them. They turned out great! I still cant believe Abraham has his over 100mph! The craziest though is George (I think) with the 18ft DOnzi and the Arneson running well over 100!! Insane! For the money though, the Sutphen is very hard to beat weather its a new 21 or an older 20.

[Slandrew]

And where................ might that be . Artie

Sorry for the mistake it was $4,500 and it's on powerboat listings And it's in Minnesota still for sale you want the phone# Wally

[Offshore Ginger]

Sorry for the mistake it was $4,500 and it's on powerboat listings And it's in Minnesota still for sale you want the phone# Wally

Wally , PM me the number but i was told the boat was sold on this forum, buttttttttttttt i could very well be wrong and thank you ...............

[Chris]

Here's an outboard Cig..

http://ocala.craigslist.org/boa/1514106536.html

That's a 21, not a 20. Super rare- especially the outboard.

[BUIZILLA]

That's a 21, not a 20. Super rare- especially the outboard.

that's the best deal on SOS today...

and yeah 'Nami, the Shelby Donzi quality wasn't great, that's for sure..

I had Geoo's X18 in my possession for a few months tuning it after he sold it.. it ran 124... right now it cruises at 92, 4 people, full fuel, and has 2,000 rpm left in it, on pump gas... it's just undergone an unbelievable, jaw dropping resto... it'll be back out in the spring..

[Jassman]

The sutphen is a nice boat, but I was in kentucky in may, 4 20' cigarettes smoked that boat. Bring 1 with real power and you can talk like that. It never even sold from what i know...and you cant buy a 20' cigarette for any price..there all sold. Sorry for reality.

If they all had the same power.. Sutphen would be quicker.. I'LL take the Sutphen of the 3.... plus fit and finish was excellent..

[Indy]

I've seen the Sutphen several times now, it's one sharp boat, I'd love to have one.

[sledge]

Sorry for the mistake it was $4,500 and it's on powerboat listings And it's in Minnesota still for sale

It was sold within a couple days of it first being shown on here or OSO...

[ITLLFLI]

Heres a great shot of the bottoms of the sut and 22 classic....AND oh by the way I was in the 22 driving PAST the sut!!

Really all 3 boats are nice boats. I crawled around the sutphen in KY and ran with it(pastit ..) all weekend. Go find and few of each and drive them. You will find out for yourself how they are all different.

[FISHIN SUCKS]

Heres a great shot of the bottoms of the sut and 22 classic....AND oh by the way I was in the 22 driving PAST the sut!!

Really all 3 boats are nice boats. I crawled around the sutphen in KY and ran with it(pastit ..) all weekend. Go find and few of each and drive them. You will find out for yourself how they are all different.

I was witness, this happened all event long, and this wasn't the only Donzi to get past the two Sutphens! I also agree that the Sutphens are beautiful boats with just a small touch of east coast homeliness to them. Appeared to be well constructed and the people running them were great.

'Nami, sounds like you lost the hottest girl you ever had to a guy with a Donzi! You have nothin positive to say about them, must have been a tragic experience.

[HaxbySpeed]

Nice pic! That photo makes me question how smooth the ride would be on the Sutphen in the chop..

[Team Tsunami]

Nice pic! That photo makes me question how smooth the ride would be on the Sutphen in the chop..

It's smooth for a 21ft boat. The question is how much hp were in thoses Donzi's? Looks like they're running good in the pic! I have also done a couple of runs with a guy that has a 22 and an Arneson ASD 6 on the boat!! Throws a nice tail!

[MikeyFIN]

Sutphens usually have Surface drives.... thats one of the reasons to like them.

[Chris]

Sutphens usually have Surface drives.... thats one of the reasons to like them.

You mean--- in Finland?