View Poll Results: Is this list accurate? I don't think so

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  • It is dead on correct

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  • It is absolutley incorrect

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  • Some of the people belong but it's not complete

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    Most influential People in Hi-Performance Boating? I don't think the list is accurate
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    Matt Trulio made this list. He posted it on FB. Several people commented on it and actually disagreed with him. I did as well. So I responded and still hold my position the list is wayyy off. I wasn't trying to pick a fight, but it is what it is at this point.

    I just sent Matt a msg and told him I was going to post the list here and ask for input from you guys. I know several of us are on FB, but this is where this needs to be discussed.

    http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http...448e6181b72040
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    No fight at all. Just discussion. And probably debate. This will be fun. What I'd really like in addition to you guys taking the poll are your comments.

    I will do my best to respond to all of your questions, unless they pertain to alan4 because I don't know him so can't comment on whether or not he is a putz.

    Have at.
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    Lie him or not Reggie changed the game.He should be on the list.
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    LOL. He's a putz.

    Ok, I'm sorry if i cam across too harsh Matt. We have many friends in common so I'm sure we would get along.

    I agree, I'm interested in the comments
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    how do you edit the polls dammit?? I was on the phone while typing. Make one it is correct and one NOT correct. Thanks any of the mods
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    MTI's Randy S. Should be on that list.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CDOWNS View Post
    MTI's Randy S. Should be on that list.
    Why? Not arguing, I just don't see how he's "influential" to performance boating. Nice guy, builds a great boat. But should he be on the list? I don't see it.

    I agree with Matt's list for the most part. I don't personally think Dave from DCB should be on that list. The guy is attention to detail oriented but I don't think his product has stood the test of time or has been proven via race circuit. I'd put Schiada's rigging (another west coast company that has been around way longer than DCB) against a DCB anyday...And then run them in the ocean in 4-6 footers and see which one comes back!

    For those that disagree Bob Leach should be on that list, you may want to do some research into Eliminator. Bob has been building performance boats longer than most other companies put together and has had a HUGE influence on the west coast boating scene. Bob opened the doors to Eliminator the same year Arronow opened the doors to Cigarette.

    There's always more names that come to mind....But there's only 10 spots on that list!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dollabill View Post
    how do you edit the polls dammit?? I was on the phone while typing. Make one it is correct and one NOT correct. Thanks any of the mods
    I fixed it. Let me know if there's anything else.

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    Allan4 has been replaced.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CigDaze View Post
    I fixed it. Let me know if there's anything else.

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    LOL I love it.
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    Here's my list,

    1. Gar Wood, the Silver Fox
    2. Capt. Red Crise
    3. Don Aronow
    4. Bob Nordskog
    5. Fred Kiekhaefer
    6. Ray Hunt
    7. Jim Wynnes
    8. Don Shead
    9. Betty Cook
    10. Howard Arneson
    11. Sonny Levi - Oh darn! To many for a top ten list, how
    about a top 50 list so Reggie can get on the
    list. Maybe?
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    I think this could make for a great discussion, and I thank Matt for opening up the dialogue and Bill for bringing it here.

    I can't disagree with the list, but I feel that there are some obvious omissions.

    I would add to the list:
    First and Foremost, Don Aronow
    Reginald Fountain
    Bob Nordskog
    Gene Whip
    Mike Alweiss
    Bobby Saccenti
    Dennis Cavanaugh

    And I'm sure I'll think of a few others.
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    That list leaves out many people who have contributed far more than some of the names mentioned.
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    Thanks for fixing that Nick
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    You forgot someone
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    Some of the people on the list have been successful in the marine biz, but I don't think changed the sport. Thats just reality. And if they should be living, than you have to add Reggie and Bobby S. among many others. Eliminator is a west coast lake boat. that simple. They may be nice and the founder may be a nice guy, but they don't belong on a list with that title.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dollabill View Post
    Eliminator is a west coast lake boat. that simple. They may be nice and the founder may be a nice guy, but they don't belong on a list with that title.
    I disagree with you there in a BIG way Bill. Bob Leach brought the extreme performance boat ride to the masses.

    Call them lake boats if you want but no other company has introduced more HIGH PERFORMANCE boaters to the world of catamarans than Eliminator.
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    You would have to add Clive Curtis (Cougar Marine) He's 1/2 the founder of the offshore Cat.
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    I did limit my list to the living. Otherwise, it would be a completely different list.

    As for my omission of Reggie Fountain, I've been pretty vocal in the past about how meaningful his contribution has been and (I hope) will be. (I've taken heat for that, too, which is fine but worth noting.) But given the current state of things, I thought his inclusion would raise eyebrows.

    As FasterDad points out (and his list is great), top 10 lists are pretty challenging.

    Carry on, gentlemen. My ears, eyes and mind are wide open. And please, please do not worry about offending.
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    The list could never be limited to only 10 unless it was specific catagories, eg Boat Designers, Boat Racers, Boat Builders, Boat Riggers, Boat Painters etc, 10 could only start a good list (IMO)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Trulio View Post
    I did limit my list to the living. Otherwise, it would be a completely different list.

    As for my omission of Reggie Fountain, I've been pretty vocal in the past about how meaningful his contribution has been and (I hope) will be. (I've taken heat for that, too, which is fine but worth noting.) But given the current state of things, I thought his inclusion would raise eyebrows.

    As FasterDad points out (and his list is great), top 10 lists are pretty challenging.

    Carry on, gentlemen. My ears, eyes and mind are wide open. And please, please do not worry about offending.


    Thanks for the clarification on limiting it to only living members. That certainly changes things.

    And I fully appreciate the daunting challenge of narrowing this list to only 10.

    Great topic.
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