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    Consumption of cheap Chinese products will be the downfall of North Americas power. All for the sake of having more crap jammed in your house than you really need.
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    The biggest factor that put OBAMA in office was the TV news media.
    If they had done half of the job they did on GW - OBAMA wouldn't have gotten to first base.

    OBAMA doesn't have the qualifications to shine a real presidents shoes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratickle View Post
    Truthfully, I'm just the opposite of Joe and think of Canada as our friend and neighbor more than ally. They are our largest trading partner, longest unprotected border in the world, and much of our family tree was from there between Europe to here. Almost like a sister state...

    I'd vote for a North American dollar to offset the power of the Euro longterm and it would include Canada, US, and Mexico.
    I dodn't paint all Canadians with the same brush, I consider them one of our strongest allies. I just take issue with Cat having to think he needs to tell the
    Americans what to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fund razor View Post
    That's a pretty natural view from Michigan, I suppose. I share it, which is easy to do since I can barely get out on the lake without entering their water.
    Not really. And I'm from Oregon/Washington until I was 37.

    Plus, our governor is from Canada and the biotch ruined this state.......

    But I've traveled in Canada a lot, and it is exactly like here pretty much (except for those crazy metric speed-limits).....
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    Quote Originally Posted by catastrophe View Post
    If you had your own oil it still would have been the same price. It wasnt the cost of producing oil that cost it to go up, it was the players in the financial sector that caused all that because they are pigs. Canada could give its population its own fuel for a quarter of what the street price is. But they dont.

    And who had the largest profits in history and took the largest bonuses? The oil industry. After eating the cost ourselves for months in the confusion of those times, my trucking businesses were getting 29% fuel charges!!! But only after I ate it for months because of disbelieving customers. Ruiness.

    And how does one explain how 1,000,000 people had mortgages in the USA that were illegal immigrants?? Couldnt show proof of employment and they had a bank loan ??!! Because some pig banker was allowed to give them one legally...and did. Big big bonuses.

    Doesnt really matter who the combined group of culprits are, its here and its a fact. And even if one says that it was a Democrat, Obama and the current reps now have to deal with it. He didnt do it, he didnt gain from it. Its a fact of life unfortunately that it is here.

    Fact is it was only a short time ago that mainstream America walked on this earth with NO credit cards on their person. Now in their back pocket they carry 6 pieces of plastic that proves they owe someone a ton of money at huge interest rates. Each household has 3 televisions 4 cell phones and 2 cars.

    You also cant ever compete in this world with a country that is currently lending the USA a trillion $ that allows a 5 year old to make a dress or pair of shoes for 6.00 and sell it to you for 50.00. While they are doing that they are polluting the earth at a rate of 20 times your country.

    Canada shut the lights out to play the game of conservation and playing green for a day...it amounted to saving our earth the equal amount of 3 fkn minutes of Chinas screwin up the earth.

    Terrorism is supposedly a world wide problem. Where are the Chinese soldiers in the trouble zones in the east ??

    Not going to get into the mess re the fighting over there. Only have to say that if man A hits you on the head, you dont go after man B.
    Cant imagine how much money has been spent in Iraq. Very unfortunate.

    But it doesnt matter how all this came to be. It wasnt Obama and its in everyones best interest to concentrate on making sure all this doesnt happen again and live somewhat differently so we can all compete again in a world that will never have a level playing field.

    But...as recently as last week the banking industry had to be reminded that $ 2,000,000.00 bonuses was BS while people are losing businesses and homes because they cant get credit.

    You arent on the winning side when personal wealth is your goal when competing with nations that dont allow that to the same extreme, especially when they have a population many times greater than yours.

    Scary thought when you hear that 40% of the daily long distance calls in Canada...are going to India.


    And Steve...the Rats didnt take anything in 06. They were put there by the populace. And if you cant believe they voted for a Democrat then they must have voted against a Republican. So instead of throwing rocks at the Dems the Republicans should look in the mirror and figure out what they did wrong and correct it.

    And one of the mistakes they made last year was the choice of VP. And that still hasnt been fixed.
    Wrong on all counts: Think before you post, The hatred generated By McCain and Bush during the failed Amnesty Push caused everyone to stay home for the midterms We crashed The WH phone system His imprisoning of Border Patrol Agents and the Smirk "See You at the Signing" Split the Party deeply McCain was a setup..By this Guy:

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    Quote Originally Posted by cuda View Post
    I dodn't paint all Canadians with the same brush, I consider them one of our strongest allies. I just take issue with Cat having to think he needs to tell the
    Americans what to do.
    And I'm saying I appreciate the input.

    You've traveled Joe, you know exactly what I mean about seeing outside viewpoints. Appreciate the fact they care enough to take the time to give their point of view and come visit or own property here.

    Besides, I don't want to give up picking on other countries until we clean up our own mess......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve 1 View Post
    Wrong on all counts: Think before you post, The hatred generated By McCain and Bush during the failed Amnesty Push caused everyone to stay home for the midterms We crashed The WH phone system His imprisoning of Border Patrol Agents and the Smirk "See You at the Signing" Split the Party deeply McCain was a setup..By this Guy:
    Need a little more explanation Steve.

    You're saying the illegal immigrant deal ruined the entire election for the Repubs?
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljbI-363A2Q


    Watch this and it will make you wonder how we in North America can compete against the odds.
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    And the Oil thing we have over that’s OVER TWO Trillion Barrels in various forms more THAN anyone!! The problem is we have a RAT infestation that needs removed and your Conjecture that the market will drive the price up is DEAD WRONG it will drive the price down once we open up our fields.
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    Quote Originally Posted by catastrophe View Post
    Consumption of cheap Chinese products will be the downfall of North Americas power. All for the sake of having more crap jammed in your house than you really need.
    But I honestly believe that was a plan (I know conspiracy theory) by our government to control inflation, build a false sense of prosperity, and have the future control of our economy which is coming to fruition now. (And I said the same thing years ago when we gave them the Most Favored Trading Status.)

    The average American does not see that I believe and happily shops at WalMart funding China's future world dominance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratickle View Post
    Need a little more explanation Steve.

    You're saying the illegal immigrant deal ruined the entire election for the Repubs?
    That is the Main reason the party split from Bush and that gave the Zippy a opening.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve 1 View Post
    And the Oil thing we have over that’s OVER TWO Trillion Barrels in various forms more THAN anyone!! The problem is we have a RAT infestation that needs removed and your Conjecture that the market will drive the price up is DEAD WRONG it will drive the price down once we open up our fields.
    You're including all North American reserve estimates in that number.
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    And I am so glad The JayBird touched on the Religion Thing 22 years 22 years there..


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratickle View Post
    You're including all North American reserve estimates in that number.
    NO US Only and I am Light on that number.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve 1 View Post
    NO US Only and I am Light on that number.
    The only number I've ever seen that high includes all of North America and the gas condensates and liquid gas reserves.
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    Rank Countries Amount
    # 1 Saudi Arabia: 262,700,000,000 barrels
    # 2 Canada: 178,900,000,000 barrels
    # 3 Iran: 133,300,000,000 barrels
    # 4 Iraq: 112,500,000,000 barrels
    # 5 United Arab Emirates: 97,800,000,000 barrels
    # 6 Kuwait: 96,500,000,000 barrels
    # 7 Venezuela: 75,590,000,000 barrels
    # 8 Russia: 69,000,000,000 barrels
    # 9 Libya: 40,000,000,000 barrels
    # 10 Nigeria: 36,000,000,000 barrels
    # 11 Mexico: 33,310,000,000 barrels
    # 12 Kazakhstan: 26,000,000,000 barrels
    # 13 Angola: 25,000,000,000 barrels
    # 14 United States: 22,450,000,000 barrels
    # 15 China: 18,260,000,000 barrels
    # 16 Qatar: 16,000,000,000 barrels
    # 17 Brazil: 15,120,000,000 barrels
    # 18 Algeria: 12,460,000,000 barrels
    # 19 Norway: 9,859,000,000 barrels
    # 20 Oman: 6,100,000,000 barrels
    # 21 India: 5,700,000,000 barrels
    # 22 Indonesia: 4,600,000,000 barrels
    # 23 Ecuador: 4,512,000,000 barrels
    # 24 United Kingdom: 4,500,000,000 barrels
    # 25 Yemen: 4,370,000,000 barrels
    # 26 Australia: 3,664,000,000 barrels
    # 27 Malaysia: 3,100,000,000 barrels
    # 28 Argentina: 2,950,000,000 barrels
    # 29 Egypt: 2,700,000,000 barrels
    # 30 Syria: 2,500,000,000 barrels
    # 31 Gabon: 1,921,000,000 barrels
    # 32 Tunisia: 1,700,000,000 barrels
    # 33 Sudan: 1,600,000,000 barrels
    # 34 Congo, Democratic Republic of the: 1,538,000,000 barrels
    # 35 Colombia: 1,492,000,000 barrels
    # 36 Brunei: 1,255,000,000 barrels
    # 37 Denmark: 1,230,



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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve 1 View Post
    And I am so glad The JayBird touched on the Religion Thing 22 years 22 years there..


    OBAMA is about as responsible for what that fktard said as SOS is about what you and Cuda type.
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    Quote Originally Posted by catastrophe View Post
    OBAMA is about as responsible for what that fktard said as SOS is about what you and Cuda type.
    I do believe it offers some insight to his inner thoughts, principles, and ideals though. There is no way you could hang with him in his church and not think that way somewhat. Otherwise, wouldn't you leave and go to a church that was more helpful to people and society?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratickle View Post
    The only number I've ever seen that high includes all of North America and the gas condensates and liquid gas reserves.
    LOL the Green River alone is 1000 square miles at a Billion barrels per square mile. Then the Dakotas a huge Oil find up there equal too Saudi Arabia our offshore Oil needs pumped instead of seeping into the Ocean and we have also 30% of the worlds Coal that can be converted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by catastrophe View Post
    Rank Countries Amount
    # 1 Saudi Arabia: 262,700,000,000 barrels
    # 2 Canada: 178,900,000,000 barrels
    # 3 Iran: 133,300,000,000 barrels
    # 4 Iraq: 112,500,000,000 barrels
    # 5 United Arab Emirates: 97,800,000,000 barrels
    # 6 Kuwait: 96,500,000,000 barrels
    # 7 Venezuela: 75,590,000,000 barrels
    # 8 Russia: 69,000,000,000 barrels
    # 9 Libya: 40,000,000,000 barrels
    # 10 Nigeria: 36,000,000,000 barrels
    # 11 Mexico: 33,310,000,000 barrels
    # 12 Kazakhstan: 26,000,000,000 barrels
    # 13 Angola: 25,000,000,000 barrels
    # 14 United States: 22,450,000,000 barrels
    # 15 China: 18,260,000,000 barrels
    # 16 Qatar: 16,000,000,000 barrels
    # 17 Brazil: 15,120,000,000 barrels
    # 18 Algeria: 12,460,000,000 barrels
    # 19 Norway: 9,859,000,000 barrels
    # 20 Oman: 6,100,000,000 barrels
    # 21 India: 5,700,000,000 barrels
    # 22 Indonesia: 4,600,000,000 barrels
    # 23 Ecuador: 4,512,000,000 barrels
    # 24 United Kingdom: 4,500,000,000 barrels
    # 25 Yemen: 4,370,000,000 barrels
    # 26 Australia: 3,664,000,000 barrels
    # 27 Malaysia: 3,100,000,000 barrels
    # 28 Argentina: 2,950,000,000 barrels
    # 29 Egypt: 2,700,000,000 barrels
    # 30 Syria: 2,500,000,000 barrels
    # 31 Gabon: 1,921,000,000 barrels
    # 32 Tunisia: 1,700,000,000 barrels
    # 33 Sudan: 1,600,000,000 barrels
    # 34 Congo, Democratic Republic of the: 1,538,000,000 barrels
    # 35 Colombia: 1,492,000,000 barrels
    # 36 Brunei: 1,255,000,000 barrels
    # 37 Denmark: 1,230,



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