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    Quote Originally Posted by Tank View Post
    . But the true followers of the industry will see that this is actually the first time this type of thing has ever happened.

    Again, if you're looking for a theme boat...Yea, they've been done. If you're looking to order a boat with an AMG package, well you show me where I can order one besides Cigarette???

    Now what did you miss??

    Boat/car themes/connections have been done since the 1920īs

    Dodge Watercars, ARNO XI Ferrari Racer from the 50īs and itīs competitor Alfa Romeo on the same timeframe, other Alfa Raceboats,,Maserati boats, Fabio Buzzi designed a series of offshore Ferrari boats built By Tullio Abbate, Ferrari Riva 32,Molinariīs one off 430 powered,An Alfa powered DuoProp&sterndrive boat from the 40īs,Fearless Porsche boats, Porsche boat with the 928 V8 engined 28 footer in the 90īs,
    Ferrucio Lamborghini had personaly a Riva Aquarama with twin Lambo V12īs and some other Lambo styling touches.
    Then thereīs the Pininfarina designed Magnum 80, thenagain design houses are supposed to design almost anything.

    ...the list is Endless....
    And not only Motorboats..Alfa romeo is nowadays heavily involved in the Maxi Class sailboats, 100ft .

    And How could you guys forget the 22 Donzi Shelby GT ???
    A Direct collaboration with Carrol Shelby also.

    cuda and fund..Am I know an expert on this too?
    Offshore Racing wasnīt designed to be a spectator sport, it's for people or companies with's lots of money to push the envelope of endurance technology and hopefully put a trophy on a mantle. It's man vs the elements, not like boats with like engines running in circles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Salesmanship View Post
    I seem to remember an AMG Scarab at the Miami show back in the mid 90's.
    Anyone?

    Hah... if true eat your heart out Cigarette....sure not mistaking it for the Porsche boat?

    Hereīs a BMW-Alpina 31
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    Kinda nice to hear about things like this, plus be able to discuss stuff we have no idea what's really happening......

    Thanks Matt


    And, Matt and Tank would be right when they said if true, this would be the first time Cigerette and Mercedes collaborated to build a boat together.

    And, Gino's Mercedes boat is sweet. Extremely tastefully done and runs faster than Cat Killer......

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    AMG is nice but Renntech is better....

    I think Gino's MTI is a Mercedes theme more than an AMG theme.

    BradZ is right on...AMG is a tuner that does the engine, suspension, badges. If the boat has Mercury power then it really is just going to be a theme boat with badges. If it does have AMG power then someone will complain that it isn't Mercury reliable, Mercury serviceable etc. I strongly suspect it will have Mercury power with AMG bling on it.


    I would love to hear what Randy Scism thinks of the project.

    In less than 60 days everyone can make their own judgement.....
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    And How could you guys forget the 22 Donzi Shelby GT ???
    A Direct collaboration with Carrol Shelby also.
    I don't know about any of the other boats you listed but the Donzi Shelby was simply a stripe down the center of the boat, Shelby emblems and stock Mercury power with an inflated sticker price.
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    http://www.cigaretteracing.com/legendary/ when it gets to the warehouse scene with the covered boat/ covered car notice the whole scene is very blurred except for the Mercury box on the left, looks like an engine crate with a Mercury logo.

    Maybe AMG is going to tune the suspension on the trailer?
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    I'm thinking of collaborating with Viagra on a boat project. The engine hatch, seat bottoms, drives, deck hatches, etc, will all rise at exactly the right time. I have been dealing directly with them (I was a test pilot, 37 emissions over Biscayne Bay) for some time. I intend to er, unveil it at midnight Thursday at a brothel to be named later (no, that's the name of the brothel, "Later") Matt knows where it is......... So does Skip. Y'all come...... PS. The party only lasts for four hours.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brownie View Post
    I'm thinking of collaborating with Viagra on a boat project. The engine hatch, seat bottoms, drives, deck hatches, etc, will all rise at exactly the right time. I have been dealing directly with them (I was a test pilot, 37 emissions over Biscayne Bay) for some time. I intend to er, unveil it at midnight Thursday at a brothel to be named later (no, that's the name of the brothel, "Later") Matt knows where it is......... So does Skip. Y'all come...... PS. The party only lasts for four hours.
    The boat only holds enough gas to last 4 hours?

    What if it lasts longer than that???????
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    The MTI Mercedes boat has a lot of AMG reference. The cockpit has a large logo that mimics the ///AMG with a ///MTI.
    And the Sterling engines are very cool.

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    I bet they will have mercury power in the boat but pull it with a truck with a mercedes motor. I think it is different when amg and cigarette collaborate on a project over a theme boat the difference being that amg will probably donate the mercedes stuff and the owner of the mti probably had to pay for his when it was built.
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    Brownie,

    I think a Levitra-themed boat is a better idea for you. You'll extend your boating season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeyFIN View Post
    Now what did you miss??

    Boat/car themes/connections have been done since the 1920īs

    Dodge Watercars, ARNO XI Ferrari Racer from the 50īs and itīs competitor Alfa Romeo on the same timeframe, other Alfa Raceboats,,Maserati boats, Fabio Buzzi designed a series of offshore Ferrari boats built By Tullio Abbate, Ferrari Riva 32,Molinariīs one off 430 powered,An Alfa powered DuoProp&sterndrive boat from the 40īs,Fearless Porsche boats, Porsche boat with the 928 V8 engined 28 footer in the 90īs,
    Ferrucio Lamborghini had personaly a Riva Aquarama with twin Lambo V12īs and some other Lambo styling touches.
    Then thereīs the Pininfarina designed Magnum 80, thenagain design houses are supposed to design almost anything.

    ...the list is Endless....
    And not only Motorboats..Alfa romeo is nowadays heavily involved in the Maxi Class sailboats, 100ft .

    And How could you guys forget the 22 Donzi Shelby GT ???
    A Direct collaboration with Carrol Shelby also.

    cuda and fund..Am I know an expert on this too?
    I was reffering to AMG....and I still don't see that on your list.
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    Maybe the car will have Cig emblems on it?
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    I never thought of that maybe we are looking at this wrong maybe the car will have a 1075 in it and cigarette logos all over it and the boat will be stock
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brownie View Post
    I'm thinking of collaborating with Viagra on a boat project. The engine hatch, seat bottoms, drives, deck hatches, etc, will all rise at exactly the right time. I have been dealing directly with them (I was a test pilot, 37 emissions over Biscayne Bay) for some time. I intend to er, unveil it at midnight Thursday at a brothel to be named later (no, that's the name of the brothel, "Later") Matt knows where it is......... So does Skip. Y'all come...... PS. The party only lasts for four hours.

    glad its only four hours; after that the festivities would have to move to the emergency room
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tank View Post
    I was reffering to AMG....and I still don't see that on your list.


    But the true followers of the industry will see that this is actually the first time this type of thing has ever happened.

    ^
    Now this was your sentence I hooked on as it obviously wasnīt at all.
    All the other German high end makes have done it already before ..even Audi.

    http://jalopnik.com/5056548/audi-r8-...es-dubai-coast
    Offshore Racing wasnīt designed to be a spectator sport, it's for people or companies with's lots of money to push the envelope of endurance technology and hopefully put a trophy on a mantle. It's man vs the elements, not like boats with like engines running in circles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JupiterSunsation View Post
    I don't know about any of the other boats you listed but the Donzi Shelby was simply a stripe down the center of the boat, Shelby emblems and stock Mercury power with an inflated sticker price.

    Like The Porsche boat which had as base version Mercs or the MTIīs that had pseudo AMG/Ferrari engines....with pushrods for chrissakes!!!

    Just like Toyota in NASCAR!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brownie View Post
    I'm thinking of collaborating with Viagra on a boat project. The engine hatch, seat bottoms, drives, deck hatches, etc, will all rise at exactly the right time. I have been dealing directly with them (I was a test pilot, 37 emissions over Biscayne Bay) for some time. I intend to er, unveil it at midnight Thursday at a brothel to be named later (no, that's the name of the brothel, "Later") Matt knows where it is......... So does Skip. Y'all come...... PS. The party only lasts for four hours.
    of all the "Men" here you admit sorta you need Viagra ?
    Is it your wild imagination that does that or just your libido which puts you on a strain ?

    A looked up on you as a man that still got it
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeyFIN View Post
    But the true followers of the industry will see that this is actually the first time this type of thing has ever happened.

    ^
    Now this was your sentence I hooked on as it obviously wasnīt at all.
    All the other German high end makes have done it already before ..even Audi.

    http://jalopnik.com/5056548/audi-r8-...es-dubai-coast
    sorry you were confused. Trust when I say Im very much aware of collaberations with auto makers (I wakeboarded behind a friends corvette edition Malibu for years). My point was, and still is: although there was a Mercedes concept boat by a private party, AMG has never collaberated on a boat before.
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    I can see AMG getting into the business if they view Illmor as a marketing success due to their unique engine.
    They may even make a drive, I'm sure it will sell on reputation just as the BMW's did when they came onto the market ( I was a Merc BMW dealer in Oz)
    BMW went about it the wrong way and it cost them, AMG now have the hindsight of why a German company went wrong that thought it had good engineering but no clue about boats and only a European view of the industry

    EPA rules may well push out all the small players in the engine business in the next couple of years, especially if there are several big players lobbying the Gov versus many small.

    P1....Mercury versus Illmor versus AMG versus...got to be more interesting and bring more money
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