I think the safety factor comes into play as the open boats would start going to fast and if an accident did happen the likelihood of injury or fatality is increased!!!!
I am sorry I went back and reread the post I think the power to weight for the canopies need to be the same 7.77 and the opens the same at 7.85 regardless of single or twin
Thread: Proposal for classes
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10-17-2009 08:50 AMGod forgives.....The 1% doesn't!!!!!!
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10-17-2009 08:53 AM
I have to agree with Trent he has some very, very valid ideas here gentlemen take them and run with them!!!!
God forgives.....The 1% doesn't!!!!!!
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10-17-2009 09:50 AM
George is right. the SVLs can barely keep up with the twin engine boats in P4.
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10-17-2009 09:53 AM
scotty i,m not trying to bust balls here,,, but i think trent ran further in his one race, than you did in the last 2 yrs ? not sure but think about ok maybe 1 year,,, but i know you get the point, everybody is trying to,help the sport
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10-17-2009 09:56 AMGeorge,,,trent did not go further in that time then me ,,,but anyhow i do get your point,,,LOL
Which ,,hey ,,,i now have it done to go around and round,,,it just did not want to cooperate with me in the past .hehehe
Also the diffrents is ,,buying aboat out of the box,,,,and bulding my own ,,like i did. Think about that.
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10-17-2009 10:02 AMDon't u guys see what Trent is doing here ????
He is trying to find new classes so he can fit in with his boat and be THE MAN,,,he is a crybaby,,because he needs to run P4 and they will not let him run P5,,,, he now plames me for not being in KW,,,told me last night in a text message...... i am the one that should be crying.
This is redicilous,,,this thread is about sealed engines and spec class ,,,not about what we have now and how to improve it,,,,this is about running of the newcommers and also most of the current teams.
Just my 2 c.
C-YA
PS.: u wanna race ,,,build a boat for the class and come and try to beat me,,,u all know my record in finishing is not that great,,,but come out and try me !!!!!!!!!!
BE SAFE
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10-17-2009 10:06 AM
hmmmmm
1. Get a Boat Trailer and Truck.
2. Get the boat dialed in
3. Get a Crew.
4. Get money to race
5. Try not be the slowest.
6. Finish the races.
7. Beat Scott Rutherford/ Daredevil...
Hmmm thatīs a long list for a starter.
Letīs actually try to be civil here and not just pick on each other on the board.
That will only function for one purpose.
No sitdown in KW and only arguing.
Man sounds like home already...Offshore Racing wasnīt designed to be a spectator sport, it's for people or companies with's lots of money to push the envelope of endurance technology and hopefully put a trophy on a mantle. It's man vs the elements, not like boats with like engines running in circles.
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10-17-2009 10:22 AM
Your exactly right Bruce, some teams would be chased off, my theory is to create quality not quantity. The better the show, the more marketable it becomes. Racers make money instead of spend money. Interesting concept huh? Everyone gets hung up on boat count. What good is 100 boats if you only have 2-3 boats in each class? In Nascar you have anywhere from 45-55 cars show up to make a 43 care field. Please read my paragraph on the original OSS plan. It could have worked.
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10-17-2009 10:34 AM
our class (svl) is striving toward that goal. It may not happen overnight. But we know we still have a viable class. hopefully, we will all come together and run a schedule that works for everyone. We are not loyal to any association. best sites, best fans, best purse. best bang for our hard earned buck. our goal is to get 8 -10 boats back out there for next year. time will tell
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10-17-2009 10:35 AM
I said no box on notched/step hulls Mika
Yes, I am thinking a 75%-25% ratio 75% being run in offshore waters, but in the spectrum of everything, in order to make it more marketable you have to reach out and bring it to the masses. In the US, more people live inland as opposed to near an ocean. Also a lot of inland courses provide a way to document numbers(attendance) Tons of people go to Sarasota, but all you will get is estimates, I mean how can you accurately count people on a public beach? In corporate America they don't care about estimates, that want documented facts.
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10-17-2009 10:50 AM
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10-17-2009 10:57 AM
Yeah right but I made a point itīs useless to ban them with a notch as it doesnīt usually gain any...makes mostly matters worse.
Yes, I am thinking a 75%-25% ratio 75% being run in offshore waters, but in the spectrum of everything, in order to make it more marketable you have to reach out and bring it to the masses. In the US, more people live inland as opposed to near an ocean. Also a lot of inland courses provide a way to document numbers(attendance) Tons of people go to Sarasota, but all you will get is estimates, I mean how can you accurately count people on a public beach? In corporate America they don't care about estimates, that want documented facts.
I mean those living close to water follow boatracing usually and those who donīt look elsewhere.
I mean I was an exhange student in Cincinnati Area and there Stock/Sprint Cars and Drag racing ruled.
I saw some powerboats but not many...
the problem with corp anything is boatraces estimated head counts doesnīt give them any facts and therefore the sponsorships are hard to justify to the board/beancounters.
But thatīs offshore Folks.Last edited by MikeyFIN; 10-17-2009 at 11:08 AM. Reason: spelling
Offshore Racing wasnīt designed to be a spectator sport, it's for people or companies with's lots of money to push the envelope of endurance technology and hopefully put a trophy on a mantle. It's man vs the elements, not like boats with like engines running in circles.
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10-17-2009 11:05 AM
We are all low level BUMS in the P classes basically and all we can do to the sport is keep our classes straight and easy to follow and race.
So lets act just the way we act in the pits, help each other so we get to the starting line and after the flag drops everyones is on their own unless thereīs someones life at stake.Offshore Racing wasnīt designed to be a spectator sport, it's for people or companies with's lots of money to push the envelope of endurance technology and hopefully put a trophy on a mantle. It's man vs the elements, not like boats with like engines running in circles.
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10-17-2009 11:07 AMInland doesn't mean no water here. There are the great lakes and many large reservoirs. LOTO, Lake St Clair, Lake Mead, Havasu, Great Lakes, etc are all plenty big enough with massive amounts of performance boaters who love to go to boating events. Eliminating them from a solid business plan is not a good idea.
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Getting bad advice is unfortunate, taking bad advice is a Serious matter!!
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10-17-2009 11:08 AM
Are these proposals regarding P class boats or the rest of the fleet? I don't think any wholesale changes are needed in the P class structure, whether it is OPA or SBI's model. The changes needed regard the " show " classes. These are the classes that need the rework. These are the classes that would be the sponsor attracting, televised, promoted classes. If we are concerned about he sport moving forward, these are the classes that need to be fixed. Quit nitpicking the sportsman classes. They work.
Rich Smith
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10-17-2009 11:11 AM
Hey our country is called the home of the Thousand lakes..and Our WRC rally is known as the 1000 Lakes...
And I donīt actually call those lakes and LOTO Inland... They got water and [power]boating communities.
Actually thereīs hard to fine States you canīt arrange a boatrace but thenagain which kind draws a crowd is not our issue either is it? We just want unified rules right ??
I mean Hydros and Dragboats are more up the alley on some lakes and rivers.Last edited by MikeyFIN; 10-17-2009 at 11:18 AM.
Offshore Racing wasnīt designed to be a spectator sport, it's for people or companies with's lots of money to push the envelope of endurance technology and hopefully put a trophy on a mantle. It's man vs the elements, not like boats with like engines running in circles.
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