Thad Allen's Apache + The Birth of the Cheetah Cat

[glassdave]

i always liked that style of strake where they are linear front to back and dont follow the hardchine. Is there a name for that? Its similar to the Ocke boats and Cougars. What is the intended effect of those over tradirtional ones? Thanks

[Steve 1]

i always liked that style of strake where they are linear front to back and dont follow the hardchine. Is there a name for that? Its similar to the Ocke boats and Cougars. What is the intended effect of those over tradirtional ones? Thanks

Originally they wrapped them around in an effort to knock the water and spray down,The mentality was to get it quickly before it came over the boat ,but as the the Stem rake increased it was a mute point.

Bertram ran them with the Keel and water flow, The mentality is to always drive it straight when it reenters the water.

I did a 45 Footer for fat Lenard (Don Smith has it now) and my friend Anglo was involved in that straight Strakes as well ,we Both were from the Haggerty school so to say.

[Steve2]

steve, i really like the trip setup on the vid that steve #2 has on his post and might you introduce steve 2 ?

huh?

[Geronimo36]

i always liked that style of strake where they are linear front to back and dont follow the hardchine. Is there a name for that? Its similar to the Ocke boats and Cougars. What is the intended effect of those over tradirtional ones? Thanks

I was under the impression it helps tracking when turning the boat and the traditional way wants to push the nose away from the turn or something like that? I was lead to believe that's why Fountain changed the strakes on later designs?

Steve, If Pantera is using a different bottom, what happened to the T-4 mold?

[Steve 1]

I was under the impression it helps tracking when turning the boat and the traditional way wants to push the nose away from the turn or something like that? I was lead to believe that's why Fountain changed the strakes on later designs?

Steve, If Pantera is using a different bottom, what happened to the T-4 mold?

T-4 That is coming up.

The early "Tin" CUV's had no Strakes at all and ran fine, I worked with a old racer Davy Wilson he had a lot of stories and Knew Mr Shead. Then Sammy James Director of Bertram racing he had hours of conversation on it they even drilled a zillion holes in the bottom and did frame by frame 16MM film analyzation, I was told the deck was in a wind tunnel as well.

anyway then while doing a 55 footer for Mr Codomo I got to work with "The Cloud" who ran the Loft at Chris Craft when they were in Pompano back in the day and the the Drawings for Cary among other things truly brilliant guy and a disciple of boat design again the Lift strip/Spray rail combo which is the way he laid out that boat and what I did on that project.

[Steve 1]

This is from some of our CAD and what Pantera has But with a 2010 Bottom.

[glassdave]

This is from some of our CAD and what Pantera has But with a 2010 Bottom.

thats a cool screenshot . . . . couldnt you move the cursor out of the way?

[Geronimo36]

T-4 That is coming up..

Not sure I follow, is there revived interest in the project?

[Steve 1]

Not sure I follow, is there revived interest in the project?

No Sir Pantera has the molds, I was referring to the T-4 story from 04.

[Powerabout]

Can you post the next 2 frames......

[Steve 1]

Can you post the next 2 frames......

I am going through Mega piles of Photos now Thank you for visiting this thread.

[LotoSteve]

All that work/attention to detail, millions of dollars, and then it all came to a stop because of the Apache rights.

Steve, do you know why Thad did'nt just keep going and market the boat under a different name?

I look forward to reading the Cheetah thread when you have the time.

[Steve 1]

All that work/attention to detail, millions of dollars, and then it all came to a stop because of the Apache rights.

Steve, do you know why Thad did'nt just keep going and market the boat under a different name?

I look forward to reading the Cheetah thread when you have the time.

With the Lawsuits and beating he was getting personally on the Boating sites He dropped out of sight. Speaking for myself I am glad to have worked for him and have nothing but respect for his family. He pulled me off to the side in the middle of this and said we would do a 500 K one off boat in the future.

Thad if you are reading this have Pepe pull a 41 for you to play in. Best Regards Boss from myself and family.

And thank you for taking the time to read this.

[Steve 1]

More Fairing going on here, SP Made Awlfair for the Awlgrip people in those days so I had common source.

[Magicfloat]

Don't know what it takes to make a thread a sticky, but IMHO this one should have that status

[MarylandMark]

I hate to sound like an idiot but afraid it is too late for that, but is that pic real?

[Steve 1]

I hate to sound like an idiot but afraid it is too late for that, but is that pic real?

Which one?

[MarylandMark]

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[Steve 1]

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No Sir that is something Steve 2 did a while back.

[Steve 1]

While I look for more Lamination pictures here is some of Steve 2's work Warpath 2003.