Thread: The Gratton Twins-P1
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05-01-2012 08:49 PM
That's what I've always heard. I knew Chris when we both lived in Cincy, and that was something he always promoted about the 24's.
I know Paul raced with you, and I know Glassdave essentially got his start in a batboat.
I'm just wondering how the ride/handling/characteristics compare between the P-1 boat and the batboat?
I never got the opportunity to run a bat, but given the chance, I'd rock one without a second thought!"Keep the bottle on the bar Ira, I won't be long".
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05-01-2012 10:37 PMI helped Chris a while back in Orland when he had a demo section, and the boat is awesome . I think it would near impossible to roll one....we tried lol.
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05-01-2012 10:46 PMThe biggest difference between a bat boat and a conventional vee for stability is that the wings on the bat boat are the chine. So where a boat like the Chief, where Bobby designed the agressive reverse chine to make it corner hard is apparent when looked at. On some Vees the chine is flat, or 3 to 5 degrees reversed, the Bat Boat has no chine and the wing itself becomes the chine. That's why, like in that one pic where we are racing in St Clair, the wing is under water just as the chine would be in a normal Vee design.
I don't know if you could get a Bat Boat to roll. But Dean and Dave can tell you about stuffing one.......Getting bad advice is unfortunate, taking bad advice is a Serious matter!!
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05-01-2012 11:39 PMMight be something P1 should look into, they would be a lot safer and you r under a lid.
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05-02-2012 10:24 AMDave said you still finished the race, with the dash and windshield held in your laps.....
Getting bad advice is unfortunate, taking bad advice is a Serious matter!!
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05-02-2012 01:39 PM
Maybe it's just the rental car theory. Buy the extra insurance, and drive it like you don't own it.
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05-02-2012 03:27 PMI personally rolled a 38 Lightning when I slid it across a wake in a turn. There were numerous 38 Cigs that have spun and sunk. Some of them put their undersides up in the process. Many Fountain SV Bravo boat raced has spun and or has gotten really out of shape. The UTZ boat even spun in a straightaway in Orange beach '03.
My point was only to say many boats have similar issues and race boats take bad hops, do stupid things, and go upside down. It doesn't necessarily mean the boats have issues that need to be corrected its usually the driver pushed them beyond their limitations.
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05-02-2012 06:12 PMFriend of mine hooked a Cigi 38' step boat and flipped it going extremely slow. Ironic part was shortly after that there was a test of the same boat in Powerboat Mag, and there was a big long section of text where teague says don't trim down turn and back out of the throttle at the same time. And if you looked closely you could actually see Vinyl letters of a similar warning written accross the lens of the mechanical trim indicator. By the way I drove that boat well over 90 MPH myself , and have to say it was the spookiest feeling the way it rides and rolls around on the front step. Only spookier was a ride ( not driving ) i took in my buddies 42 Fountain stagger boat big steps, that thing is bow steering all over scared the poo poo out of me and I was just stuck in there trying to get him to slow down.
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05-02-2012 06:24 PMBat Boats Have gone over, in a turn Zero Cavity, went over in Ft Myers in 2001, and lets just say the canopy doesnt hold the water back too long!
Some where in Kenya a village is missing an Idiot!
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05-02-2012 06:32 PMI do think Bat boats are cool by the way, maybe not quite the safest piece of machinery as is but could be bolstered a bit to be a good safe ride. Assuming something like Miss Geico doesn't swallow you whole while running 100+ they are kind of hard to see.
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05-02-2012 07:34 PMThe chine on the Bat Boat is exactly the same as the strake. It rolls over on the wing in the turn.
I'll dig up my sequence where the big boys are passing Rick and I in St Clair on each side. They were barely going 70mph faster than us.....Getting bad advice is unfortunate, taking bad advice is a Serious matter!!
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