Brownie - you are right, it was called a Moppie Camper. I have seen a few those available in recent years. There was also a Baron Camper but I don't know if they actually ever built one. The one I have is just called a Moppie II. In total, they only ever built 30 something of the 24 hull.
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01-22-2010 11:48 AMThis is the Baron version. It bears a strong resemblance to my Donzi Hornet II. It is what I have used as inspiration for some of the deck and interior modifications.
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01-22-2010 12:07 PMI was riding in the original Hornet when it either swapped ends, or blew over backwards. I'll never forget it.
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01-22-2010 12:42 PMBrownie - lots of power or crazy driver or both? Original Hornet was 19 feet long and 19 degree V. Hornet II 20'4" long and 22 degree V.
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01-22-2010 12:45 PMIt was the original Hull #1 that I raced in the 1964 Miami-Key West. I sold to George Newman, who insisted that I ride with him in his first race. Bad idea...........
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01-22-2010 12:52 PM
My grandfather has a 25 Bertram that he takes care of like if it was his 2nd wife. That boat is built solid. One time he was docking it behind the house in the keys and the throttles got stuck and he hit sea wall HARD. The first thing that came to his head was " mi bote se hodio" which mean my boat got f@#@ up. NOTHING besides a little scrape on the gel coat...Amazing
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01-22-2010 03:10 PMThis 24 is well built also. The stringers are similar to the old Cigarette's that were 1/2 plywood core heavily wet wound in mat and roving before being placed in the hull. This boat is 39 years old and no moisture in the plywood deck core anywhere. A tiny part of the transom in the lower V showed ever so slight mosture when it was routed to remove and close the old outdrive hole. The rest of the transom core was dry and new looking plywood. When I removed the last 4 feet of the small center keelson in the engine well it was dry in the core as well. Not bad!!
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01-23-2010 08:52 AMBrownie - A while back on one of the Bertram boards there was suggestion that the 24 foot hull was first done in the mid 60's and was a collaberation of Jim Wynn and Ray Hunt and was actually raced atleast once. Is this possible?
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01-23-2010 01:10 PM
We often forget that Ray Hunt invented and patented the 24* Deep Vee hull in the 1950's http://www.huntdesigns.com/deepv.htm .
And that Dick Bertramm was probably the first "developer" to recognize the potential of this hull form, again in the late '50's.
In fact, Bertram started his boat business based on Hunt's designs.
Now in reference to the 24, and a question I've had, is when did the day-to-day relationship between Dick and Ray end?Last edited by gcarter; 01-23-2010 at 03:17 PM.
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01-23-2010 01:12 PM
I might add that most of the Hunt designs had a round keel, and this 24 is a sharp Vee.
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01-24-2010 02:36 PM
if it's a center console, i'll take it
does Santa's sleigh have a blower ?
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01-24-2010 04:40 PM
Not a center console.
PM me your email address and I can send some cell phone pics.
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01-24-2010 05:58 PMI'm just outside of Toledo. I'll take it. Call me @ 419-693-9379 home,
or 419-276-6484 cell. Thanks Steve
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01-24-2010 10:58 PM
u sure that's a Bert?
does Santa's sleigh have a blower ?
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