I really wanted a TG, but at the time the place where we were going to drystack it had a 36' length limit, so we got the Cafe. Then after we bought, they notified me of the weight limit & even the Cafe was too much.
But now after owning, i cant see a need to go from 35 -> 38. While a TS would be nice, they are no where near our budget.
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01-08-2010 12:12 PM
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01-08-2010 02:04 PM
I have seen Kramers boat in person..It is as close to perfect as you will get..And a fresh water boat....
I have no doubt Tanks is VERY nice to and the 3as are a big plus to me...
Good Luck !
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01-08-2010 02:10 PMScott's boat is in very well-cared-for condition.
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01-08-2010 02:19 PM
I agree. The only way I would trade my cafe for a gun is if I was going to make money. If it was break even then I will keep the lines of the Cafe.
Put them beside each other - the difference isn't even worth discussing. I like the cockpit and the raked look of the deck on the Cafe.
When I sell my Cafe it will be to go to a much bigger rig, or to one of the few T/S Cigs with enclosed bathrooms. It sure as hell won't be to gain a few extra inches.
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01-08-2010 03:39 PM
Actually, with equal power/drives a Top Gun is faster than a Cafe. The hull is more efficient. Don't take it from me, that is right out of the mouth of Craig Barrie. And we've had the discussion more than once.
Weight wise, I would say the Gun is probably 1k heavier. You hear dry weights on both Guns and Cafes and they're all over the place. Isn't a cafe dry like 9k and a gun is supposed to be 10k?
With all that said, a buddy owned a Cafe and it was the first boat I really had a LOT of seat time in (both driving and riding in). I absolutely love cafe's. Matter of fact, when I was looking to buy I was specifically looking at Cafes but Phil had my gun and made it happen. I've never regretted the decision, only looked back and was thankful it turned out the way it did.
So, not taking anything away from Skramers boat. It's f*ckin' sweet. Always thought it was one of the nicest cafe's out there. And really, I'm not in a war on who can sell their boat to you. Look around, weigh the options, see what works for you the best and when you're ready, buy what you love.
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01-10-2010 09:58 AM
Cafe spec. is 9600 and the gun says 10500 i have an 87 broucher at home from my cafe and the gun measures 37'6'' cafe is 35'0''
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01-11-2010 04:09 PM
I'm in NO way trying to be rude, but there actually are just a few Cafe's with notched transoms. One of them has been on our lake since it was new, and owned by a really good friend of mine for years.
Here are a few pics I had to take a few years ago, to settle an argument on the subject, lol:
Coincidentally, it is the "actual" boat, that was used in License to Kill. Paperwork & factory proven :
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01-11-2010 05:09 PM
Brandon, you are absolutely correct. We've had this conversation before on a different thread. Matter of fact it was also that thread we discussed speed comparisons between the Cafe and Gun and it was at that time I called Craig to get the info straight from the source, since he was running Cigarette at that time. As I recall he said there were 4-5 Cafe's made with notched transoms.
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01-13-2010 11:35 AM
That's the thread! When I had mentioned the notched Cafe's, one of the former regulars back then, had quite a smart ass comment trying to be a know it all. He never replied when I went "all in" with pics.
No prob man! They tried it on the earlier ones. It didn't work as it was intended, and his boat needs tab at every speed. He has driven the boat for so long, that HE can walk that tab out as the sticks go forward, without losing the balance & porposing the hell out of it. It's a tougher boat to drive, unless you want to run some tab all the time.
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01-13-2010 12:00 PM
Hey Brandon that looks like the Cafe that was used in the James bond movie?? saw the 007 on the side, just wondering?
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01-13-2010 02:00 PM
That's the boat
He has the movie cued to that specific part up at his lake house on VHS. Funniest part, is after they escape the shootout, he stops to go ahead & bang the chick. They lean against the steering wheel, and the boat lets out a loud honk that sounded like a Peterbilt, lol
Thanks Matt!
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01-13-2010 02:55 PMLicence to Kill with Timothy Dalton. Set in th ekeys- sort of a Miami Vice ripoff. He bangs the broad from Law & Order- Richard Gere's wife. Forget her name.
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01-13-2010 04:06 PM
Boy needs to learn how to ease into a slip......
I was just looking for that video but you beat me too it.
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01-13-2010 04:51 PMWhat I need is one of those pistol-grip shotguns that blows 3 foot diameter holes through building walls but doesn't hurt the boat sitting right on the other side.