So Jack, my Brave is a 1988. Did you build it?
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12-16-2009 07:54 AMWarning: This post may contain language unsuitable for minors or math not suitable for liberal-arts majors.
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12-16-2009 09:35 AMFund,
I didn't build anything..Bobby and Eric did. I just wired a deal together and tried to get APACHE going again..
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12-16-2009 09:53 AM
Is that boat Blue Moon now?
Warning: This post may contain language unsuitable for minors or math not suitable for liberal-arts majors.
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12-16-2009 09:56 AMI have a ton more...Bobby gave me a disc with alot of pics on it..
Thad was the investor that I brought in to re-generate APACHE. It was an unbelievable event(not a good one,either) and Apache never took off..
Bobby,Eric, and I made some $$..very rare in the boating biz
Oh well,nothing ventured,nothing gained.
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12-16-2009 10:03 AMAnyone remember the war on OSO with Todd Cimino?
He launched a company and used the Apache name and branding...
We had a war on the board and also had a letter sent stopping him from using any Apache name,trademark's, and logo's.
His attorney, because I had the rights to Apache at that time, stopped his client via a cease and desist order that we sent...
So much for you know-it-alls that think I didn't own the rights...
McManus wasn't even in the picture...he was going in for the kill on Bobby when I came into the picture and we effectively put the brakes on him...
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12-16-2009 10:29 AMThad was a money man (more money than brains).... Unfortunately proper due diligence wasn't done up front so after everyone was "put together" they later found out the guy was a looser drug addict who brought in more loonies (probably drug addicts as well) who thought they could do everything better and drove all the original parties out the door and all together these new guys drove the company into the ground and in the process lost the name and rights... Sad day in Apache history...
I'm my business I get paid to find corporations employees with skills that are very unique and they pay me a lot to do it...... They rely on me and my company to do our due diligence when I hand them over and even though they do interviews, background checks and reference checks, when something doesn't work out it's my reputation at stake...... Whether it was in my control or not, it's percieved to be my fault, that's reality.
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12-16-2009 10:37 AMNot true at all...
Steve Koss is an excellent boat builder.Bobby knows his stuff and really knows how to build a boat, and Stinson,well, he's just Stinson and some auxilary crew were brought in.They were all pretty talented.
It was the other Steve(can't remember his last name) that sunk Thad and he has done this time and time again. He's a rat and a POS. When Steve came on board, I fought against it, because I knew what he would do to Apache...and true to form, he gutted it.
Thad never listened..and it cost him over a Million to get a major azz whooping the old fashioned Miami way
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12-16-2009 10:40 AMDo you have some kind of delusion about this? Did I ever mention the name Koss or Stinson? Your implications are false...
Due Diligence I'm talking about had nothing to do with the Attorney.....
I stand by what I wrote... Carry on..
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12-16-2009 10:44 AM
Stand by it all day long..you are dead wrong...I have absolutely zero illusions about anything. And let's not forget..I was there..you weren't
Koss and Stinson were the people involved..and I recruited them
And what Due Diligence are you referring to then?
Were you even on the boards back then?
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12-16-2009 10:49 AMYou're right Jack, you're right about EVERYTHING!
Enjoy the legacy, carry on!
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12-16-2009 10:52 AMI was there..you weren't...
Can't you just admit your wrong?
I have no problem with you painting the scenario, but, please be factual and don't get ****ed if the person involved corrects you...
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