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12-13-2009 02:43 PMOffshore Racing wasnīt designed to be a spectator sport, it's for people or companies with's lots of money to push the envelope of endurance technology and hopefully put a trophy on a mantle. It's man vs the elements, not like boats with like engines running in circles.
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12-13-2009 02:50 PMOffshore Racing wasnīt designed to be a spectator sport, it's for people or companies with's lots of money to push the envelope of endurance technology and hopefully put a trophy on a mantle. It's man vs the elements, not like boats with like engines running in circles.
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12-13-2009 03:09 PM
Theoretically a curved structure is stronger than a flat structure. In the event of a direct impact only a small portion of a curved piece takes the entire hit, while allowing the rest of the structure to absorb/ dissipate the energy. Hence he archway you see in many bridges, doorways etc.
P-4077 "The Swamp" S.B.Y.C. and Michigan medboat mothership
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12-13-2009 03:50 PM
A true engineering masterpiece! While there were upgrades in design it remained the same basic car for decades. I can't think of another car with as big an aftermarket parts selection. From dunebuggies to dragster, people turned them into almost anything. Not much on a bug you could destroy that couldn't be fixed with the most basic tool kit and $300. If you did manage to do more damage, you could always turn it into a bajabug, toss on a fiberglass manx body or scrap the body and use a tube frame.
P-4077 "The Swamp" S.B.Y.C. and Michigan medboat mothership
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12-13-2009 04:34 PMOffshore Racing wasnīt designed to be a spectator sport, it's for people or companies with's lots of money to push the envelope of endurance technology and hopefully put a trophy on a mantle. It's man vs the elements, not like boats with like engines running in circles.
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12-13-2009 04:40 PM
I know Iknow..I just gave politely some leeway to answer as Iīve been criticized to be the know it all recently on the board even
Seems you know a lot more of Beetles than I do. Also Bikes arenīt my true forte or Ichehockey for the matter..despite having family friends who has been in NHL.
I know quite a lot of boats in general..even sailboats and treeboat, engines, not transmission, drives or props, Im electrically inclined, I donīt know Sqaut about American Football but love it, same goes with baseball.
So I have a lot of stuff I do not know... but what I have studied in the uni of physics math and chemistry I remember a bit.Offshore Racing wasnīt designed to be a spectator sport, it's for people or companies with's lots of money to push the envelope of endurance technology and hopefully put a trophy on a mantle. It's man vs the elements, not like boats with like engines running in circles.
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Offshore Racing wasnīt designed to be a spectator sport, it's for people or companies with's lots of money to push the envelope of endurance technology and hopefully put a trophy on a mantle. It's man vs the elements, not like boats with like engines running in circles.
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12-13-2009 08:22 PMThis thread got off target a bit...
I'd rather see deck to deck racing. I also believe the NASCAR example of taking over the US vs Farmula 1 or Indy has proven that most fans feel the same in this country.
That being said, a high speed spectacle, such as LOTO every year, also shows a huge following for the high speed, large boat, demonstrations. A race with every turbine cat running well would be extremely exciting. But I worry about those guys at those speeds very time they're out there. At the speeds they are running, a flip in a sweeper or straight would not be anything I would ever want to witness.
I believe the Amsoil Cat, and the class they spec into, is as good as it gets. Maybe the old SuperCat class was top of the heap for what I've witnessed. I believe there were 13 in Key West in 03. Then an engine rule change destroyed that class, just as those same types of changes have destroyed every top competition class up until now (in my estimation).Getting bad advice is unfortunate, taking bad advice is a Serious matter!!
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12-13-2009 09:09 PMI like to see deck to deck.. The thing is some teams just want to stand out. If they race in a big class that doesn't always happen. So they reach for the top and avoid the heavy competition. Now there are nearly as many extreme classes as others. The worst part is the fans get awe struck and the modest classes with the heavy competition get lost at the circus. Oh well.
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12-13-2009 09:42 PM
with the classes.. I can invision a break down like this working.. you have your
P classes
SVL
SV
Diet Cat..cat lite whaterver you call it..
Big Cat
Turbine.
2 day race weekend. Sat. morning test. Sat afternoon 2 races, bottom half of P class then top half of P class
Sunday midday, 2 races, SVL and Diet Cats, second race, SV, Big Cats and Turbines.
This is holding in my mind (though many would probably disagree) that P class is entry level, meaning that you get your feet wet and learn to race, With apsirations of moving beyond GPS racing to deck to deck racing.
Not only would this keep racing challanging (if you have been racing in the same P# class for years and winning, it's time to step to the next level) It would also grow the sport as people moved from P to svl or diet cat, those P boats would be available for new guys to move into the sport or to move up P levels.
It would also provide the venue with 2 days of racing on the water.P-4077 "The Swamp" S.B.Y.C. and Michigan medboat mothership
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12-13-2009 10:13 PM
your in big trouble now Rob!!!!!
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12-14-2009 04:39 AM
Me too.
Why not put on P classes a mandatory top rpm limit, maximum pitch prop or gear ratio and forget about the gps?
Regarding extreme classes, think a spectator can easily make a difference in those?
I could easily also mistake P1 boats for other classes myself.Offshore Racing wasnīt designed to be a spectator sport, it's for people or companies with's lots of money to push the envelope of endurance technology and hopefully put a trophy on a mantle. It's man vs the elements, not like boats with like engines running in circles.
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12-14-2009 04:45 AM
I would like to see every class race at least one race a day just like in other forms of motorsport running a championship series as offshore doesnīt have a starting grid to qualify for on saturday.
Regarding dominant P racers, If thatīs how much they want to spend and not more then itīs up to them.Offshore Racing wasnīt designed to be a spectator sport, it's for people or companies with's lots of money to push the envelope of endurance technology and hopefully put a trophy on a mantle. It's man vs the elements, not like boats with like engines running in circles.
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12-14-2009 06:26 AMP classes are more for the guys who do not have the travel time, or wallet depth, to travel a circuit so they can have a "part-time" race boat or race local events only. In several cases it's also their weekend pleasure boat.
I personally think it is an outstanding venue and the classes just need a little tweaking for standardization between the orgs. OPA's obviously is well received based on the boat counts.Getting bad advice is unfortunate, taking bad advice is a Serious matter!!
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12-14-2009 08:26 AM