Gino, Every thing sounds good, This is your project and I am very intrested, as I said earlier, I have been thinking of something like this for a while, Mark and I spoke to Steve Curtice abought his Honda Program, my suggestions would be.
1. not limet to 30 teams, the success of the class would retain value in the boats
2 24 to 27' boats with rear seat like the honda boats
3 possibly small blocks, cheapest HP for the buck, I bet you can get these under 40/45K
with single ram sterring, bennet tabs
4. most important, dry exhaust, this is a race boat, it needs to sound like one.
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11-17-2008 08:02 PM
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11-17-2008 08:23 PM
Eddie....I will call you tommorow....the reason behind the 30 teams is also apperances...I don't want 40 teams and only avg. 15 boats a race...I would like to get team owners that I can thrust will be at the races...If I promote that there will be 25 boats there...I would want to have 25 boats there...by putting the team owner responsible on making 80% of the races to keep there ownership,it will let owners know up front...if your looking to only running a few races and picking up a pay check...that won't help the Series and we don't need that....I would rather have 10 boats with 10 good owners then 15 owners and avg. 8 boats a race....
The small block is a good idea but finding a engine sponsor to put up a sponsorship is not easy....sure you can find someone to build engines...but to find one that will make the races and inspect and give you a sponsorship deal on one is a differant story....
I'll talk to ya tommorow
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11-17-2008 09:31 PM
Hey Gino just caught up on the post and would love to help. Check your pm.
Do you see this as being a way to get other people involved in the racing program. I know that you want the exprience of Ryan or Eddy, or any racer for that matter, but do you see this as a way to make the sport bigger by bringing in new people?
Mikey
Miss Geico Racing # 113
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11-18-2008 10:27 AM
Ballast tanks up front = safety. Just a thought.
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11-18-2008 10:54 AM
Mikey....what my goal is.....I'm trying to get some experienced racer who are not in boats right now to start with and then go after guys that are not involved in racing or had been and are out....I'm not trying to get current race teams to get out of there race boat and into this one....it will do nothing for the sport....The goal is to get your weekend boater to get into one of these, race for a while, the speeds are not crazy...but if they like it they can sell there ownership and boat and move up to P-Class and by them selling there ownership I still will maintain my numbers....
The 5 guys that I would want to be the first teams are not currently racing but have a great history of racing....they will be the guys I'm going after...and by compensating them will give them a reason to join in....
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11-18-2008 01:55 PM
Well this tread has turned into a big help.....since posting the info on the Series I now have another engine builder interested in the Series....
I will leave all doors open till I hear everyone both in engines and hull manufactures....times are slow and companys need work...but I think the Hull make is pretty well set....I feel confident with them....but still will let the other 2 put there offer on papper....
Thanks to Brain H....he has offer his rule book from the ORL that I will input to what I have already.....
Thanks Brian....and thanks to everyone that has shown interest in the Series....
Again...I want to make myself clear....I don't want to take boats away that are currently racing....I'm looking for racers who are not racing but want to get back into it..so we can start the Series and make it appealing to the everyday boater....
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kirbyGuest11-18-2008 02:31 PM
Gino in just a few months youve done what these few hecklers could not do in 5 years . Kudos to you .
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11-18-2008 02:42 PMGino Good deal and good luck. I figured I share a thought. I don't know the extent of your travel schedule, but seems likely not everyone will attend all races as history shows from past seasons. Why not also invite racers that will only race a few. So if guys commit to a full schedule great, but try not to lose the others that can't or won't do them all. If you get enough over a broad area you can still put on a good show. If they commit to buy a boat that is great don't overwhelm everyone by insisting on a full season too. It would be great if everyone did them all, but it seems a little unrealistic to me.
Good luck.
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11-18-2008 03:09 PM
Jim...
1st- It was good to see ya again in K.W. Its been along time...good to see ya back in the sceen again.....
2nd -You have been around for a long time in racing so any of your input is good information....thanks
The thinking is that if racers really want to be paid for there services then they have to contribute...by puting a Series together and working on putting a race boat together for 50k or less and get money back for everey race you attend...your investment will pay for itself down the road...but for it to pay for itself the owners need to committ....thats why the first 7 owners need to be paid for there services....for this to work we need to bring in a show..even with 7 boats to start with, we will still be able to put on a great show.....they will be able to miss 1 race a year...and for the teams that make every race they will be able to drop there worst race in points....
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kirbyGuest11-18-2008 03:18 PM
:gino dont let the guys who tore up real racing back in ,03 discourage you
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11-18-2008 03:54 PM
Make sure you start with a reputable boat company that a finance & insurance company will cover..........
Ryan Beckley
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11-18-2008 03:55 PM
The thinking is...by have a ownership...the boat mantains the points...so if some racers cannot make a race but the owner has 2 other guys that can race that weekend they can...as long as they are members and are in good standings with the Series....its up to the owner if you trust the other racers...and with the contingency money out there per race...it would benifit the owner to have his boat in every race....
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11-18-2008 04:00 PM
Thanks for the input Ryan....
Yes all 3 manufactures boats are well know in the boating community and are insurable and I already have one bank set up if fin. is needed, you will have to quilifie but they will also due sub-prime players with a downpayment..
One of the things I'm not going to have set up right away is taking in trades...my shop will be set up for sales...but I will not jump in and start taking in trades in this market without having a buy figure or a buyer for your boat....Since I don't want to take race boats out of other Series...I will look more for pleasure boats to trade who's owneers want to get into the Series..I want to put my time in my current race team and the Series vice being in boat sales
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11-20-2008 12:24 AM
Gino what ci/hp are you looking at? I think I know an engine builder who might be interested.
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11-20-2008 11:22 AM
Since I have posted about what I have been working on with the Series I have had 2 other engine builders interested in it...I will hear them out...we will not need any big HP to get these boats in the low 70's on a fairly light weight hull....I have the weight of 2 of the hull munufacatures and working on the exact weight of the 3rd....but looking for a very reliable engine package that we can work with them backing and inspecting them and have involment in the Series.....If they are interested please feel free to have them contact me....I have one sponsor already done for the engine package...but I will hear every option before signing a contract. Once that is done I will have the 1st one built so everyone can see it...Once everyone acually see's it and has the opertunity to take a ride in it, then they will be able to picture how this could take off....