I realize by comparison to the Bertrams being talked about in this thread that the Bertram 24 is just a tadpole but does anyone on here have any knowledge of the origins of Bertram 24 hull. They were produced as a recreational craft in the early 70's but I think the hull itself was developed prior to that. It is very different from both the 20 & 25 models. The hull has a different beam (8 ft). It has a 24 degree deadrise and is V'd to the heel. Even the strakes (there are 2) are different. The rear 3/4 of the bottom has a striking resemblance to 2 boats I have previously owned (24 ft. Cigarette & 25 ft. Magnum). I'd post pics of the bottom taken when it was upside down last month but I have no URL to link. Any info would be greatly appreciated.
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01-20-2010 04:30 PMBertram never copied anything. They had Russ Specht, Lee Dana etc., who were the cream of the crop, engineer-wise. It was just another boat. "Hey, guys, draw me up a 24' x 7' 7" utility boat". "OK".
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01-20-2010 07:14 PM
Having met Lee Dana over 37 years ago - I was impressed by his knowledge and how he took time to talk to me along with Sammy James, and Keith's father who worked at Bertram at the time - Quality people building quality boats and Yachts. My brother had one of these utility boats too.
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01-20-2010 09:17 PMPhil.....you are obviously talking about Keith Hazell, whose father worked for Bertram. For those who don't know, Keith was one of the very best of the throttlemen and riggers of that golden era.
He also helped Jerry Jacoby win his World Championship in 82. He raced on everything from Bertrams, with Howard Quam to Cigarettes and was always in the hunt at the front of the pack. One of the good guys who unfortuntately passed away at an earlier age.Light travels faster than sound....that is why some people appear bright until we hear them speak!!
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02-09-2010 02:22 PM
He apparently also did engines, this is an old talldeck race engine my cousin gave me I rebuilt, valve cover had Hazell's name on it.
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01-20-2010 05:12 PMThanks for your input Brownie. Whomever designed the bottom had to of taken a page from the Magnum and Cigarette hulls of the day. This one is 24' x 8' and I figure it is going to make a great rough water "old fart" boat. I have restyled the deck, expanded the engine well and had the bottom, sides and deck regelled. The one I have is 39 years old and looks like brand new. As soon as the snow goes in the spring I am going to completely refit her with new everything.
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01-21-2010 06:11 AM
Correct Charlie !
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01-21-2010 10:02 AM[IMG][/IMG]
Here is a rear bottom view
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01-21-2010 10:07 AM[IMG][/IMG]
Here is a front view
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01-21-2010 03:55 PM
Kind of looks like a Seacraft . Any relation Brownie or Charlie ?
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01-21-2010 04:27 PMLike girls, boats all look pretty much the same upside down..................
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01-21-2010 04:51 PMLOL @Brownie
Here she is right side up:
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01-21-2010 05:35 PM
24 Bertram
does Santa's sleigh have a blower ?
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01-21-2010 05:44 PM
Keith Also throttled for Howard Quam in his 38 Bertram Flap Jack - am not sure if he throttled in the Active cat too
Phil
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01-21-2010 11:19 PM
What are the holes in the foredeck for?
By the looks of the gel work it looks like this is going to be beautiful restoration .Can't wait to see it done.
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01-22-2010 09:17 AMThey built a Volkswagen bus themed model of that 24' with a foredeck that lifted, and side canvas that filled in the gap so that you could stand up and pee. Real men pee over the side, even on the trailer.
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