P1-usa

**TYPHOON** · 12-25-2009 08:57 PM

Heard some great news that the P1 owner in Europe is looking to build class's in the USA. It would build Offshore racing to a whole new level. If you thought we were getting slow think again. Professional racing is a real possability for the first time. P1, OSS and PROPRA are looking to a bright future. Stick that in your stocking! Thanks Martin Sanborn and APBA for laying the ground work. Its up to us racers to now get behind this movement. There has been lots of bad rumors about who is doing what. This is real!!!!!! We would love to see OPA and SBI be part of this new wave. Details to follow.
Merry Christmas to all.
Randy

**imco offshore** · 12-25-2009 10:07 PM

randy great news,,is their any indication of what and how many classes yet.? Are going to put out a rule book?

**THEJOKER** · 12-25-2009 10:27 PM

Single spec engine , open cockpit , 24-29 ft in length would be awesome! Keep us posted.

**imco offshore** · 12-26-2009 04:11 PM

Originally Posted by THEJOKER

Single spec engine , open cockpit , 24-29 ft in length would be awesome! Keep us posted.

bryan i have a canopy mold i,m trying to get rid of,,,call me,,

**1waterboy1** · 12-30-2009 01:05 AM

Originally Posted by THEJOKER

Single spec engine , open cockpit , 24-29 ft in length would be awesome! Keep us posted.

Agreed..but I would imagine they are going to utilize the horespower to weight formula for all of the classes they run.There are many advantages to letting teams build thier own engines.How about this:

SUPER VEE ..CANOPIED TWIN ENGINE HP TO WT(EVOLUTION CURRENTLY)
SUPER VEE LIGHT...CANOPIED SINGLE ENGINE HP TO WT

VEE..OPEN COCKPIT TWIN ENGINE HP TO WT(SUPER SPORT CURRENTLY)
VEE LIGHT..OPEN COCKPIT SINGLE ENGINE HP TO WT

Maybe these open cockpit classes could grow again like Factory 1 and 2...it certainly could provide great marketing opportunities for the high performance boating industry.

**F1-00 Racing** · 12-30-2009 10:34 AM

Originally Posted by 1waterboy1

Agreed..but I would imagine they are going to utilize the horespower to weight formula for all of the classes they run.There are many advantages to letting teams build thier own engines.How about this:

SUPER VEE ..CANOPIED TWIN ENGINE HP TO WT(EVOLUTION CURRENTLY)
SUPER VEE LIGHT...CANOPIED SINGLE ENGINE HP TO WT

VEE..OPEN COCKPIT TWIN ENGINE HP TO WT(SUPER SPORT CURRENTLY)
VEE LIGHT..OPEN COCKPIT SINGLE ENGINE HP TO WT

Maybe these open cockpit classes could grow again like Factory 1 and 2...it certainly could provide great marketing opportunities for the high performance boating industry.

Be careful Mark!! Your proposal is too logical and makes too much sense

But here is a reference point for you to see some of the objections in your new proposal

http://seriousoffshore.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=11135

Beware of that wanna be racer that finally finished a race(behind the class below him) he will say you are nobody and drunk

Thank you Martin for working "tirelessly" on this endeavor and Randy, great job!!!! Keep us posted on how things develop...

**MOBILEMERCMAN** · 12-25-2009 11:58 PM

It is Great this has progressed to the point of announcement. I can't wait to hear more.

**Pete B** · 12-26-2009 07:53 AM

looking forward to hearing more.

**TYPHOON** · 12-26-2009 12:03 PM

There are details on all the questions. It has been well planned out and desighned for sucsess. It is geared around racing and not any one org. If the Org's want to be involved then they are more than welcome and incouraged to unite. Think in terms of APBA sancioning racing in the USA again where we ALL have the same rules,North,South,West,Great Lakes and all having one big Worlds. This not a OSS,OPA,SBI,PROPRA thing. Its about united racing in the USA. As racer's that's what most of us want. Its not for everyone so if you dont like it please just dont coment and continue doing what ever it is that you think is great racing.
MD

**MOBILEMERCMAN** · 12-29-2009 12:34 AM

Originally Posted by TYPHOON

It has been well planned out and designed for success. It is geared around racing and not any one org. If the Org's want to be involved then they are more than welcome and encouraged to unite. Think in terms of APBA sanctioning racing in the USA again where we ALL have the same rules,North,South,West,Great Lakes and all having one big Worlds. This not a OSS,OPA,SBI,PROPRA thing. Its about united racing in the USA. As racer's that's what most of us want.
MD

Randy Thanks again. I highlighted some important parts.

**THEJOKER** · 12-26-2009 12:12 PM

Randy is there any plans for the class I mentioned? We would campaign a factory team and it would be great to see Activator , Kryptonite , Phantoms , etc all back in the game. When we lost our class it killed our boat sales.

**TYPHOON** · 12-26-2009 12:59 PM

Brian start the deck mold with a lid on it. P1 is interested in one of the classes as a single HP to weight SVL style boat most likely with the 525 as a HP to weight that already exists. From what I have been told the focus of the weekend of racing will be on 4-5 classes only. They will get the lions share of the TV ,money and attention. Its about building bigger classes with more boats in them and rewarding the teams well for racing in those classes. That is not to say the other classes 1-6 are not welcome or wanted. THEY ARE!!!!!! It will be built to encourage teams to move up into the money classes and get sponsors based on great compatition and hard core racing. If the SVL style is included it means you can buy a race ready boat for under $100K and be in the big show. We all know boat racing is expensive but there are plenty of teams out there that have way more money in there race boats than that. The question is do you want to race or do you want to look good?
Randy

**Ratickle** · 12-26-2009 01:02 PM

Originally Posted by TYPHOON

The question is do you want to race or do you want to look good?
Randy

Look good.....

Keep us informed Randy, and thanks for the updates so far.

**THEJOKER** · 12-26-2009 04:42 PM

Originally Posted by TYPHOON

Brian start the deck mold with a lid on it. P1 is interested in one of the classes as a single HP to weight SVL style boat most likely with the 525 as a HP to weight that already exists. From what I have been told the focus of the weekend of racing will be on 4-5 classes only. They will get the lions share of the TV ,money and attention. Its about building bigger classes with more boats in them and rewarding the teams well for racing in those classes. That is not to say the other classes 1-6 are not welcome or wanted. THEY ARE!!!!!! It will be built to encourage teams to move up into the money classes and get sponsors based on great compatition and hard core racing. If the SVL style is included it means you can buy a race ready boat for under $100K and be in the big show. We all know boat racing is expensive but there are plenty of teams out there that have way more money in there race boats than that. The question is do you want to race or do you want to look good?
Randy

I'm all for the P1 Success......trust me. I just can't get over the way I got involved in offshore powerboat racing back in 1999. The West Coast boat I raced , I was a dealer for. " Race on Sunday , Sell on Monday" , theory worked big time for me. I sold so many pleasure boats because I raced the same model boat in F1. I went on to buy my own molds and invested alot of time in money just for the F1 racing theory and I still haven't quit. Other companies did well too selling pleasure models of the F1 Boats. You know that w/ Kryptonite and there was Acitivator , Phantom , Fountain , Baja , Formula, Lavey Craft and others doing well during those F1 years. I tried it with ORL and Gino gave it a run. Who will be the F1 Offshore Savior?

**imco offshore** · 12-26-2009 04:10 PM

i,ll take RACE and look ok....when you go real fast you don,t have time for too much wax,,we race,,,drink margarittas,,,race again,,,and then go to the stage and drink more margarittas,,,!!!lolol

**XtremeRacing** · 12-28-2009 01:34 AM

Brian,
You did everything you could do, and there were a few teams that held on till the very end. When it came right down to it the racers were the ones that really didnt want F1 to go on. Alot of the F1 boats fell into P class and most r still there doing there thing. You can take the horse to water but you cant make them drink.

**MOBILEMERCMAN** · 12-29-2009 11:04 AM

I have confirmed OPA is involved in discussions as well.

**TYPHOON** · 12-29-2009 08:51 PM

You bet!!!!! I believe SBI is ready as well to listen to the plan. PLEASE,PLEASE,PLEASE make this happen everyone!
Randy

**XtremeRacing** · 12-29-2009 09:53 PM

Originally Posted by MOBILEMERCMAN

I have confirmed OPA is involved in discussions as well.

Jim,

Did you get the Info. from Smitty??

**MOBILEMERCMAN** · 12-29-2009 10:10 PM

Originally Posted by XtremeRacing

Jim,

Did you get the Info. from Smitty??

I spoke with Martin in length last night. He is working tirelessly on this.

His efforts and plan threatens No one and truly seems to be a win win for racing and the various orgs. It is not for me to share any details. He is close to making his own announcements. I look forward to them as much as any one.

In the mean time everyone support your favorite org.

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