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Scotty B
05-20-2009, 02:56 PM
As a fan and racer in offshore, I can tell you our sport is not the same without the Bud Lite team out there on the course with us, not to mention the Seabold family in the tunnel boats. The Busch family and Budweiser are synonimous with boat racing and helped put our sport on the map. After two races this year without them I had to voice my displeasure and encourage you to do the same.
I just went on there website and explained why I will no longer purchase any product of theirs. Here is the link, http://budweiser.com/index.aspx

Dude! Sweet!
05-20-2009, 03:08 PM
Good call Scott. A few of us 250# - 300# guys should throw our weight behind the sport we love and show Bud what that exposure was worth. I'm a half time bud drinker, but I'll pull back to zero. Keep up the good work!

Sea-Dated
05-20-2009, 03:10 PM
Good call. I will voice my opinion as well..........

TCEd
05-20-2009, 03:39 PM
So you guys think Bud's parent company pulled the plug because offshore racing was selling their products ?
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gerritm
05-20-2009, 03:47 PM
Isn't Budweiser owned by a foreign company now?

Ratickle
05-20-2009, 04:11 PM
Isn't Budweiser owned by a foreign company now?

Yep. Most corporations in the US will end up that way I think. We have the highest corporate taxes on the planet, and are talking of raising them (eliminating loopholes:sifone:)again....

Dude! Sweet!
05-20-2009, 04:28 PM
So you guys think Bud's parent company pulled the plug because offshore racing was selling their products ?
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I think Bud's parent company thinks that NASCAR is the only necessary marketing avenue in the US, so it pulled the plug on Offshore, circle boats, drag racing, etc...

I don't think they see the value of marketing through those other avenues and maybe if a couple thousand case-a-week guys make some noise, they'll rethink their franco-centric marketing ideas... Eh, Rickeee Booobie... :D

Dude! Sweet!
05-20-2009, 04:31 PM
Yep. Most corporations in the US will end up that way I think. We have the highest corporate taxes on the planet, and are talking of raising them (eliminating loopholes:sifone:)again....

We were just going over this with some of our international tax guys this morning. US is #2 (I think) behind Japan in major industrial nations effective tax rate on multi-nationals. We'll be #1 when Japan revises their tax structure this year and #1 with a bullet if the current administration gets what they're asking for...

fund razor
05-20-2009, 04:51 PM
Good call Scott. A few of us 250# - 300# guys should throw our weight behind the sport we love and show Bud what that exposure was worth. I'm a half time bud drinker, but I'll pull back to zero. Keep up the good work!

Present. :D
Screw it, the Coors light is the same price.
F Budweiser. The Queen of beers.

Seems like every time some corporate entity with the initials IB gobbles up a brand they ruin it. ;)
(InBev)

Sean H
05-20-2009, 05:03 PM
let's not forget 'Miss Budweiser', the most famous name in boat racing ever.

although I doubt emails will do little to change the minds of the board of Inbev. They are a bottom line company, period. Everybody knew what was going to happen when they took over.

Nascars contract is not expected to be renewed either. (see coors light pole award and no more busch series as the prelude)

Basically AB joined the other beer companies in that they are now all foreigned owned and do not support offshore racing.

Ratickle
05-20-2009, 05:14 PM
Present. :D
Screw it, the Coors light is the same price.
F Budweiser. The Queen of beers.

Seems like every time some corporate entity with the initials IB gobbles up a brand they ruin it. ;)
(InBev)

Coors is also owned by a foreign corporation. Another victim of US corporate policy changes after the Enron mess.....


Molson Coors executive offices are located in Montreal, Quebec and Denver, Colorado. The Canadian operational headquarters are located in Toronto (in addition to several breweries across Canada). United Kingdom headquarters are in Burton upon Trent.

Ratickle
05-20-2009, 05:17 PM
We were just going over this with some of our international tax guys this morning. US is #2 (I think) behind Japan in major industrial nations effective tax rate on multi-nationals. We'll be #1 when Japan revises their tax structure this year and #1 with a bullet if the current administration gets what they're asking for...

We're already number one as an average against the others. This does not include the new hidden tax rate of the post Enron accountability laws.

"Many states impose state corporate income taxes at rates above the national average of 6.6 percent. Iowa, for example, imposes the highest corporate tax rate of 12 percent, followed by Pennsylvania's 9.99 percent rate and Minnesota's 9.8 percent rate. When added to the federal rate, these states tax their businesses at rates far in excess of all other OECD countries.

When compared to other OECD countries:

24 U.S. states have a combined corporate tax rate higher than top-ranked Japan.
32 states have a combined corporate tax rate higher than third-ranked Germany.
46 states have a combined corporate tax rate higher than fourth-ranked Canada.
All 50 states have a combined corporate tax rate higher than fifth-ranked France.
Thus, if lawmakers are serious about making the U.S. corporate tax system more competitive internationally, corporate tax rates will have to be reduced both in Washington and in state capitals. State officials should be champions of substantial cuts in the federal corporate tax rate because there is only so much they can do to improve their own competitiveness. After all, even corporations that operate in the three states that do not impose a major state-level corporate tax—Nevada, South Dakota, and Wyoming—still shoulder a higher corporate tax rate than fifth-ranked France and 24 other OECD countries because of the 35 percent federal corporate rate."

Ratickle
05-20-2009, 05:21 PM
There is a reason for these trend changes.


"Emerging markets continue to fuel global initial public offerings (IPOs) despite financial volatility triggered by the credit crunch. In 2007, with global IPO fund-raising at an all-time high, Brazil, Russia, India and China (BRIC countries) raised US$119 billion, over 40% of total global IPO proceeds. By contrast, a decade earlier, the US and Europe dominated IPO markets, and all the BRIC countries together produced US$6 billion or just 5% of total IPO proceeds. "

Dude! Sweet!
05-20-2009, 05:41 PM
Our state tax guy was wearing a suit today, so I refuse to acknowlege state taxes... :D

Ratickle
05-20-2009, 05:49 PM
Our state tax guy was wearing a suit today, so I refuse to acknowlege state taxes... :D

Okay.....:)

Trim'd Up
05-20-2009, 05:55 PM
I have always been a AB guy since I am from STL. I switched to mainly Schlafly, but I still drink Bud select on the water because Shlafly doesen't have cans.

fund razor
05-20-2009, 06:12 PM
Coors is also owned by a foreign corporation. Another victim of US corporate policy changes after the Enron mess.....


Molson Coors executive offices are located in Montreal, Quebec and Denver, Colorado. The Canadian operational headquarters are located in Toronto (in addition to several breweries across Canada). United Kingdom headquarters are in Burton upon Trent.

Old Frothingslosh? :)

Coolerman
05-20-2009, 06:52 PM
i sent an email showing my concerns.

Scotty B
05-20-2009, 07:10 PM
I don't care who owns it, as long as they get back into boat racing. Until then, I am done with them

Scotty B
05-20-2009, 07:18 PM
Message from an Anheiser Busch employee who will remain anonymous

"Hi Scotty.....Love your boat.....and turbines in general ....I am an employee of Anheuser Busch....and I can tell you....the new people that the company sold out to, care very little for sporting sponsorships....The good relations with sporting groups, that were a hallmark of the Busch family, that took generations to establish.....are more or less gone....The new group in charge, Inbev, are based in Belgium, and are more or less run by Brazilians....and the "bottom line" ......is the only thing on their minds..The cost cutting measures implemented since the takeover border on the ridiculous..The deal is done, however...and there is little that can be done....I can even smell the difference in the change of ingredients while they are brewing at work..The decades of goodwill the Busch family fostered with sports media ...has more or less vaporized since the takeover....The employees dont like it....distributors dont like it....public dont like it...but it is what it is...Perhaps, when the new owners see the true cost of trampling on the Busch legacy..in terms of the bottom line...things will change back......but it will never be what it once was..

jayboat
05-20-2009, 07:58 PM
Man, that is sad to hear. Sign of the times, I guess.

One of the reasons I qualify for the 250-300# club is due in part to their products.

I'll stick with the Killian's Red and Anchor Steam.

redhotsommer
05-20-2009, 09:51 PM
Killian's, alas, is a Coors product.

Our world is crumbling. Does Obama know how to fiddle?

45Sonic
05-20-2009, 11:16 PM
Well I guess I just stick with my Miller Lite, no more Bud Select or Bud Light Lime for me.


What a shame and disgrace to a good name and company

phragle
05-20-2009, 11:20 PM
this is why I prefer rum.... well... not really, but it sounded good...

Cash Bar
05-20-2009, 11:22 PM
Here is what I sent...

After years of consuming your products, I ,sadly, must inform you that I will do so no longer. Your brand has always stood out as a caring, community oriented organization. Many of the fine waterfront establishments in Florida benefitted from your sponsorships of Boat Racing and Waterfront festivals.

Now, after your recent corporate redirect, you have chosen to cease your funding of all related Sports Marketing sponsorships. It has taken a toll here locally on the people that depended on your support of their locations along the waterways. Everyone I know that was affected by your enthusiasm for our sport is now deeply concerned.

Until such time as you reconsider your decision to vacate the sponsorships of the boating community, in particular the Bud Light Offshore Racing Team, my employees, my family and myself will no longer purchase any InBev(AB) or Eagle Brand products.

I regret that it has come to this but you hurt this community more than you possibly understand.

scoop123
05-20-2009, 11:49 PM
Like any other brewery has done anything for the sport.

phragle
05-21-2009, 12:28 AM
Damn.. I tried to find my Bud/real men of genius post to copy here, and it won't let me search may posts past april...

TOMTBONE
05-21-2009, 12:55 AM
Like any other brewery has done anything for the sport.

agree

Bobcat
05-21-2009, 06:08 AM
coors light and miller high life have sponsored boats in the past. PBR it is then!

Tom A.
05-21-2009, 12:37 PM
Looks like I will be sticking to my Jack Daniel's! Born, bred and still owned by an American company! Heck, they are even sponsoring racing now.

RichL
05-21-2009, 01:14 PM
looks like i will be sticking to my jack daniel's! Born, bred and still owned by an american company! Heck, they are even sponsoring racing now.

+1

getchasum111
05-21-2009, 01:27 PM
damn...bud ice to old style.....oh well we all must sacrifice something...

Coolerman
05-24-2009, 05:42 PM
some cool vids of the bud light boat running

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=48809549

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=41630109

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0LrYGzoTxU

Tommy Gun
05-24-2009, 11:02 PM
I an tell you that from the great beyond...Gussie is ****ed.

I was a LOYAL King drinker for years and have the gut to prove it...but no more. I understand the ONLY reason they are still in NASCAR is contractualy related....In Bev will kill St Louis. This is a very sad turn of events...what next...Cigarette owned by the Russians or Sheiks?
Taxes suck and so does Socialism...

"A little revolution every now and then is good...no?"

What movie is that from?

fund razor
05-25-2009, 08:33 AM
AB was a great company. Built by some of many German families who brought brewing to the US. When I was in the St. Louis area for a wedding in 1993 (Middle of july... middle of the great flood of 93) I just had to visit the St. Louis brewery. What a place. Like a city within a city. So much history.
But they explained to us that for the first time, that they were not canning beer. We were watching the cans go by and the line was running... but they had shut down beer production and were canning water to send to flood victims.

Bobcat
05-25-2009, 08:52 AM
AB was a great company. Built by some of many German families who brought brewing to the US. When I was in the St. Louis area for a wedding in 1993 (Middle of july... middle of the great flood of 93) I just had to visit the St. Louis brewery. What a place. Like a city within a city. So much history.
But they explained to us that for the first time, that they were not canning beer. We were watching the cans go by and the line was running... but they had shut down beer production and were canning water to send to flood victims.

after hurricane wilma they sent tons of canned water down here,I still have a six pack somewhere.

Ratickle
05-25-2009, 09:02 AM
after hurricane wilma they sent tons of canned water down here,I still have a six pack somewhere.

If they'd sent beer you wouldn't still have it somewhere.......

Bobcat
05-25-2009, 09:51 AM
well, the born on date must not expire!!!!!:sifone:

LaughingCat
05-25-2009, 12:40 PM
They are a bottom line company, period. Everybody knew what was going to happen when they took over

Reminds me of a certain offshore powerboating website who just advised me my annual membership is up for renewal. Since i haven't seen an OSO gladiator running around the country, I'll likely not renew. But the bilge was getting weak anyway.

MarylandMark
05-27-2009, 05:40 PM
Thanks for some thing I could cut & paste Cash Bar..

Show your support with your $$- way of the world but more often than not most just say whatever it is sucks but keep on keeping on

SHARKEY-IMAGES
05-27-2009, 08:26 PM
I'll never forget the story (in which I assume is true) about a NASCAR team. Heinz Ketchup made a decision to stop sponsoring a team. The FANS of NASCAR boycotted by not buying Heinz any longer. I heard it wasn't long after the name was right back on the car. :sifone:

With today's situation, I don't think the fans would have such power. But hey!!! it is worth a try!

I only drank Bud Select for David Scott.

Once I heard he was out, I moved onto something else..

SHARKEY-IMAGES
05-28-2009, 07:16 PM
By the looks of this, BUDWEISER is not out of sponsoring offshore racing...

They currently have their name on the Lucas Oil / OUTERLIMITS:

http://nigelhook.vstourtrac.com/?p=180


Great job NIGEL !!! :)