Fastest 41

[ar15meister]

Which 41 is/was the fastest of all time?

What kind of power/drives? What kind of setup?


I guess it would make sense to say pleasure or race.

[BattleCry]

Not exactly sure, but, I think it was the J.H. Electric boat. kidapache, on here, use to own it. He has owned several of the light and fast 41's.

[lowblue320]

I also heard that the Predator was a light one.

[14 apache]

Star Chaser will run 104.6 with 890hp fuel injected NA 598" #6 drives. Any other non supercharged 41 Apaches running close to that or faster?

[J-Bonz]

I remember reading back along time ago on the other site that it may have been the boat Sean Stintson was towing down the road with the GPS on.............. :)
Jr.

[Toasty]

star chaser very light boat. put that boat at the dock with other 41s and erics boat will sit higher. very very light. his is set up to run #s 104 is fast

some white and red apache 41 in nj ran high teens in the day...blown not injected
pred 41 was well into the 9s not over 100...

no eric your top of the food chain.

[J-Bonz]

star chaser very light boat. put that boat at the dock with other 41s and erics boat will sit higher. very very light. his is set up to run #s 104 is fast

some white and red apache 41 in nj ran high teens in the day...blown not injected
pred 41 was well into the 9s not over 100...

no eric your top of the food chain.

Toasty,
Are you speaking of MM's Rig? Just curious

[Toasty]

Toasty,
Are you speaking of MM's Rig? Just curious

no, dont know how fast his is. not sure of the owner in nj...

[stormrider]

MMs w/ the 800sc iirc runs 94-96.
w/ the 650s run 86.
His IS light.

[ar15meister]

So Star chaser is the fastest at 104.6mph?

Have any ever run more than that? Someone mentioned somehting in the teens..... which boat would that be?

I am getting a ride on a 41 (so I was told by the owner) this summer and apparently the boat will run 100mph with Chief 1000's and 6's.

These are my favourite v-bottms by far so Im always interested in learning more.

[Geronimo36]

Erics boat pulled away from me a few times when I was running 60-70 mph in the NYC poker run like I was standing still. It's a runner.

BTW, some folks are claiming the new 54' Apache is running 120 mph. :dupe: Can't imagine that's realistic though.

[ar15meister]

Erics boat pulled away from me a few times when I was running 60-70 mph in the NYC poker run like I was standing still. It's a runner.

BTW, some folks are claiming the new 54' Apache is running 120 mph. :dupe: Can't imagine that's realistic though.

Hopefully we can stay away from that topic on this one though.....:leaving:

[14 apache]

So Star chaser is the fastest at 104.6mph?

Have any ever run more than that? Someone mentioned somehting in the teens..... which boat would that be?

I am getting a ride on a 41 (so I was told by the owner) this summer and apparently the boat will run 100mph with Chief 1000's and 6's.

These are my favourite v-bottms by far so Im always interested in learning more.

I dont think mine is the fastest but with equal power it would be close.MM boat with all most the same hp runs the same as mine with #6 640hp will go 84mph with about 750 92mph 890hp 104.6 this is with the same set of propellers. If i took the fresh water cooling off it would save 300lbs of weight and some power to run rec pumps.

[14 apache]

So Star chaser is the fastest at 104.6mph?

Have any ever run more than that? Someone mentioned somehting in the teens..... which boat would that be?

I am getting a ride on a 41 (so I was told by the owner) this summer and apparently the boat will run 100mph with Chief 1000's and 6's.

These are my favourite v-bottms by far so Im always interested in learning more.

Witch boat are you talking about? Thanks Eric

[Magnum Mark]

i dont think mine is the fastest but with equal power it would be close.mm boat with all most the same hp runs the same as mine with #6 640hp will go 84mph with about 750 92mph 890hp 104.6 this is with the same set of propellers. If i took the fresh water cooling off it would save 300lbs of weight and some power to run rec pumps.

take off the weight. You wear them out before you rot them out.

[Toasty]

star chaser so far is the fastest natural asp boat. Eric has the set up. E did you set the drive height higher then when we sold it to you?

but really who cares there are 38 bad boys, fountains, OL doing 113 with 525s and 87 gas in 6 footers as well.

if you want something historic / timeless/et al. do you really want to be hammering on a older hull over 100s in some real swell? prob not.

[kidapache]

This was the fastest apache ever 119mph with 1350hp #6 drives

[Magnum Mark]

[QUOTE=kidapache;222185]This was the fastest apache ever 119mph with 1350hp #6 drives[/QUOTE

great product. 119 mph in a 22 year old boat that was built to run 90. still runnin. comeS with a great warrentee. LIFE PLUS 90 DAYS. RIDE ON.

[BattleCry]

This was the fastest apache ever 119mph with 1350hp #6 drives


And there it is J.H. Electric. In all its Glory. As far as the 47...KEMOSABE!!! I don't know the speed numbers, but, it is into the triple digits as it Negative Reaction. And, for the 36's, the "Drillin' It" 36 that is for sale on OSO runs in the triple digits. I have been on Drillin' It and Negative Reaction at over 100mph.

[Geronimo36]

And there it is J.H. Electric. In all its Glory. As far as the 47...KEMOSABE!!! I don't know the speed numbers, but, it is into the triple digits as it Negative Reaction. And, for the 36's, the "Drillin' It" 36 that is for sale on OSO runs in the triple digits. I have been on Drillin' It and Negative Reaction at over 100mph.

Nice!!

The 36' thats for sale on Long Island also supposedly runs 100, full cabin interior etc..

I like Drillin-It with the half stagger, keeping the cockpit together albeit smaller. What does the B boat Geronimo (36') run?

[ar15meister]

Witch boat are you talking about? Thanks Eric

the bowrider.

[ar15meister]

so 119mph is the fastest confirmed speed out of a 41?

Thats friggin fast man......

I cant wait to go for a ride in one, it is my favourite boat by a long shot. I bought my Pantera race boat basically because it reminded me of one in many ways.

[ar15meister]

Nice!!

The 36' thats for sale on Long Island also supposedly runs 100, full cabin interior etc..

I like Drillin-It with the half stagger, keeping the cockpit together albeit smaller. What does the B boat Geronimo (36') run?

I would be interested in that as well. I have looked at Geronimo's and Drill in It's listings many times and drololed alot of drool over those boats.

[BattleCry]

Nice!!

The 36' thats for sale on Long Island also supposedly runs 100, full cabin interior etc..

I like Drillin-It with the half stagger, keeping the cockpit together albeit smaller. What does the B boat Geronimo (36') run?

The B boat Geronimo runs over 100. I don't know the exact number. I can find out. The gentleman who owns both is Kirk Smith. The Drillin It boat is just wicked. If you have access to the Key West Poker Run videos in 1999 2000 2001, its on there. It airs out nicely. It too has a cabin. When he had larger power than what is in there, it went somewhere around 110. The boat is just SUPER CLEAN.

[Geronimo36]

The B boat Geronimo runs over 100. I don't know the exact number. I can find out. The gentleman who owns both is Kirk Smith. The Drillin It boat is just wicked. If you have access to the Key West Poker Run videos in 1999 2000 2001, its on there. It airs out nicely. It too has a cabin. When he had larger power than what is in there, it went somewhere around 110. The boat is just SUPER CLEAN.

Nice!!!!!

All the big numbers posted on these 41's are all race boats with no cabins etc. Does Geronimo have a cabin? So I wonder what a stripped down (light) and cut-down deck (like a Gladiator) on a 36' has the potential to do....hmmmmm...

Now that would be cool!:drool5:

[Hannibal41]

so is there anyone faster then 119 in a 41 thats pretty quick. we only ran in the high 9s

[Sean Stinson]

This was the fastest apache ever 119mph with 1350hp #6 drives

Bulldodo....the only way that will run 119 is on the trailer behind something that will pull it that fast......I have $100 bill that says there isn't a 41 out there that will break 110...PERIOD

Nykamps 41 "Allez Vite" was the fastest for the longets time at 106.....

If there's a 120 mph Apache anywhere I want to see it.....Now that we are back on track and truth please continue!!!!:sifone::sifone:

[Hannibal41]

na na i know of one 113.7 south jersey boy...and thats no BS

[Sean Stinson]

Let me put it this way the possibility exists however the probability doesn't....like I said a C-Note to the one that I ride in over 110

[Ratickle]

Let me put it this way the possibility exists however the probability doesn't....like I said a C-Note to the one that I ride in over 110

It'll burn more gas than that. Plus they'll have to put up with you......:sifone:

[Sean Stinson]

It'll burn more gas than that. Plus they'll have to put up with you......:sifone:

Look I will pay the fuel bill and buy lunch......And if it actually does it I will pay for the strippers if it doesn't the bar bill is on them and let me tell you my bar bill can be extremely expensive!!!!!!

[BattleCry]

What does the 47 Kemosabe run with the new twin turbos in it? Nykamp knows.

[Sean Stinson]

What does the 47 Kemosabe run with the new twin turbos in it? Nykamp knows.

I am sure that she's a bad b!tch with those probably 115+

[Ratickle]

What does the 47 Kemosabe run with the new twin turbos in it? Nykamp knows.

I emailed him. See if he's around.

[Lee]

Broken Arrow has Turbo motors, Kemosabe has Supercharged Chief's and runs north of 115 :D

[Smarty]

na na i know of one 113.7 south jersey boy...and thats no BS

How fast Ed Stella's 41? He is a south Jersey Guy.

[Nykamp]

I think Kemo is running 118, with wet sumps and Tommy blower motors.If John got dry sumps and Tommy's Turbos it would be crazy fast.

[Hannibal41]

Hi smart, not sure i know eds and franks are real close with frank being a bit quicker but each year is different and on any given sunday anyone can loose. i think bob w. ran by them both with his race 38, thats what put himself on the map, but it was a handfull

[Lee]

I think Kemo is running 118, with wet sumps and Tommy blower motors.If John got dry sumps and Tommy's Turbos it would be crazy fast.

There are many faster V-bottoms around but when the water gets REAL BIG, Kemo is "Lord of The Waves" hands down.

[BattleCry]

I think Kemo is running 118, with wet sumps and Tommy blower motors.If John got dry sumps and Tommy's Turbos it would be crazy fast.

Sorry Steve. I sometimes get confused.

Call me. I may have a place for you to go hunting at, if you are still interested.

[Sean Stinson]

How fast Ed Stella's 41? He is a south Jersey Guy.

SC Red Hot is the name of it and I am not sure how fast it is but let me put it this way.....It took almost 2600 hp to get 3 different 41's to bump 100!!!!!:sifone::sifone::sifone:

[Smarty]

SC Red Hot is the name of it and I am not sure how fast it is but let me put it this way.....It took almost 2600 hp to get 3 different 41's to bump 100!!!!!:sifone::sifone::sifone:

If I had 2600 hp I would want more than just a bump at 100 mph, that would be depressing. I love Apache boats, but seriously if I owned a 41', I would have had expectations of at least 110 mph - Ouch!

Warpath - how fast it is? really doesn't matter to me - just curious.

That is one of my favorite boats of all-time.

[straightpriority]

wicked won isnt an "Apache" but how fast is she

[Geronimo36]

How many of the 100+ 41's or 47's are pleasure with full cabin???

How about Firewater, anyone know what it ran in race trim?

My friends old 41' with 750 hp tunnel rams on #3's with a half stagger ran 78 on a good day... It was a wave crusher but very heavy so no one could keep up with him in anything over 3-4's.

[fund razor]

How many of the 100+ 41's or 47's are pleasure with full cabin???

How about Firewater, anyone know what it ran in race trim?


I dunno.
But I know that now it has triple Stotler 1100s and SSM 6s.

[Geronimo36]

I dunno.
But I know that now it has triple Stotler 1100s and SSM 6s.

I think that's the 47'. I like the 41' with the flames a little better better! :)
http://thejerseyboyz.homestead.com/Firewater.html

[fund razor]

I think that's the 47'. I like the 41' with the flames a little better better! :)
http://thejerseyboyz.homestead.com/Firewater.html

Yes, that was the 47. Recently saw an ad.

[ChiefApache]

How many of the 100+ 41's or 47's are pleasure with full cabin???

How about Firewater, anyone know what it ran in race trim?

My friends old 41' with 750 hp tunnel rams on #3's with a half stagger ran 78 on a good day... It was a wave crusher but very heavy so no one could keep up with him in anything over 3-4's.

Our 41 pleasure with full cabin, Chief 850's and #3A's runs consistently at 84/85. Said to have done 90 but we have yet to see it ourselves. And yes, a wave crusher and we don't have many who can keep up with us in 3-4's.

Personally, I'd rather have the good ride in the 41 than the fast ride. My husband may not have that same opinion. :sifone:

[Geronimo36]

Thanks for the info Chief, it just goes to show how much difference a little weight and balance can make in a boat!!! It would be interesting to see what a 41' would run with some of todays technologies, even a step or two added in... From what I'm told Bob Saccenti's Chief runs 7-10 MPH faster than any pleasure 41' with the same power and it wasn't a light one.

Figure some of the race Apaches weigh in around 8500-9500 lbs and Apache Warrior weighed in somewhere around 12-13K DRY!:ack2:

[Ratickle]

Our 41 pleasure with full cabin, Chief 850's and #3A's runs consistently at 84/85. Said to have done 90 but we have yet to see it ourselves. And yes, a wave crusher and we don't have many who can keep up with us in 3-4's.

Personally, I'd rather have the good ride in the 41 than the fast ride. My husband may not have that same opinion. :sifone:

Supposed to have both. Put a couple of Turbines in one. You'll go well over any safe speed.......:sifone:

Rumor had it the Turbinator Black Thunder was well over 120......

I know, not an Apache, but loaded up luxury......

[ChiefApache]

Figure some of the race Apaches weigh in around 8500-9500 lbs and Apache Warrior weighed in somewhere around 12-13K DRY!:ack2:

We are getting our boat weighed dry for the first time next week. We are just curious of just how big of a resin bucket she really is.

[ChiefApache]

Supposed to have both. Put a couple of Turbines in one. You'll go well over any safe speed.......:sifone:

Rumor had it the Turbinator Black Thunder was well over 120......

I know, not an Apache, but loaded up luxury......

I honestly do not want to go any faster than we are now when we get in big water. That may be due to the fact that this is all new for us (going fast in big water period). It is so intense yet exciting all at the same time. Not sure which emotion wins over the other. Maybe once we've had the boat for a few more years, push her a little more I may be ready to go faster in rough water. Right now I'll stick with that 72-76MPH range.

[Sean Stinson]

wicked won isnt an "Apache" but how fast is she

She runs over 100 I thought I heard she ran like 106 or something like that!!!

[Sean Stinson]

If I had 2600 hp I would want more than just a bump at 100 mph, that would be depressing. I love Apache boats, but seriously if I owned a 41', I would have had expectations of at least 110 mph - Ouch!

Warpath - how fast it is? really doesn't matter to me - just curious.

That is one of my favorite boats of all-time.

In its day of running it ran in the 90's now with the 6's and bigger power I would suspect that it is running over 100

Look here is the deal if you do the setup and work your a$$ off on dialing it in a lighter 41 will run over 100 like I said Allez Vite was the fastest for the longest time at 106 is there a 41 faster than that maybe I just haven't seen it yet and I have been around a few of them in my time!!! The fastest 47 was and probably still is Apache Heritage and/or Kemosabe....Kemo ran 118 on it's best day....I dont think there is a 47 that has broke 120 yet....Like I said possible but not probable

[Smarty]

We ran SC Hot and Island Runner in the late 80's and early 90's out in the Ocean in my father's 27' Magnum (you would be suprised who won). We had not run Stella since he went with big power.

I haven't been down there much in the past 10 years (Margate, A/C), boating prettty much on the upper Chesapeake now.

Apache Heritage was one bad boat. Thanks Sean.

[Hannibal41]

You must tell us the details a 27 up against 2 41s. I did not know your father but if its hairy canery the magnum. i did hear that it just tip toed past frank. HAha great to read this give us more to this story?! do you know frank well?

[Smarty]

I was not in the boat when my father ran Kerbeck, it was my Uncle Barry and my father in the boat that day, the Hairy Canary did get around him that day when my Uncle was in the boat. According to my Uncle, that was the day Kerbeck said to my father, "I didn't think you went that fast." To which my father replied, "I didn't you you went that fast either." - all in fun. They were running 85/84 mph that day. (I will talk to my Uncle about this more tomorrow) I thought Kerbeck had beaten him by a 1/2 boat length, but that is not historically accurate.

I do not know Mr. Kerbeck, but I will give him his due, he liked to race. Even when he had that red 32' hot-rod Excalibur he would race anybody, I was in high school then and would be at the Washington Ave. beach in Margate (Lucy the elephant's beach) watching him turn around to race everyone.

When my father had the Hairy Canary, that is what we used to do, sit out in the ocean off that beach and wait for a hot-rodder to pass us by, then roll up along side and wave let's go. You knew was the fastest before you got to the Steel Pier. 42' Cigarette Smokin,40' Fountain Fanny Doctor, 33' Fountain Scrap It, 28' Cigarette Razz Ma Tazz were just a small sample of the boats I can rember from back in the day that we raced that had names; we raced anyone that would give us a go, I miss those days.

I was in the boat the day we ran Stella (SC Hot), it was two separate race off of Margate/Ventnor, we beat him both times, maybe he (Stella) was not running right, I don't know, it wasn't that close. He is a good guy, and I like his boat (SC Hot).

Mancini (forget his first name), had a 38' Cigarette that would just kick the sh*t out most of those bigger boats, he dusted the Hairy Canary as did some other boats. Win or lose (didn't like losing but didn't cry over it either), didn't matter at least you got in a few races, and that made it fun.

[Smarty]

There was one more Apache back then I do remember, it was a 45 or 47 sit down version, with triple engines. I thought it had "Fire and Ice" on the side of it. It ran on race fuel back then because I remember smelling the exhaust, when it idled past us by the Longport Bridge. That Apache was a faster than any Magnum I knew, including the Hairy Canary. There was another 41' which I thought was Alez Vite in south Jersey in the early 90's, we ran that one too, it was underpowered at the time.

[Sean Stinson]

Allez Vite was a Michigan boat that belonged to Pete Rhodes....South Jersey had Island Runner, Mean Streak, SC Red Hot, and a couple of others....Actually the North East and Florida had the biggest concentration of Apaches around....The North East being the biggest of all!!!!

[Smarty]

This boat was in New Jersey sometime in the 1990's, specifically the Somer's Point/Ocean City area. We raced it from the Ninth Street Bridge heding south towards the 34th Street Bridge in flat water, it did not have 2 x 1350 hp at the time. It was lucky if it had 2 x 800 hp during that I didn't undertstand why the Apache wasn't just driving by us - I had told my father just before the race started that he, my father, was going to get his ass kicked by this boat, but just the opposite happened. You never know until you roll up along side of someone how fast they really are, there was a mystery back then of who went how fast, before Serious Offshore, and OffshoreOnly took some of the mystery out it.

What does Mean Streak look like?

[Sean Stinson]

This boat was in New Jersey sometime in the 1990's, specifically the Somer's Point/Ocean City area. We raced it from the Ninth Street Bridge heding south towards the 34th Street Bridge in flat water, it did not have 2 x 1350 hp at the time. It was lucky if it had 2 x 800 hp during that I didn't undertstand why the Apache wasn't just driving by us - I had told my father just beofre the race started that he, my father, was going to get his ass kicked by this boat, but just the opposite happened. You never know until you roll up along side of someone how fast they really are, there was a mystery back then of who went how fast, before Serious Offshore, and OffshoreOnly took some of the mystery out it.

What does Mean Streak look like?

All Red with yellow lightning bolts and the other one was the JH Lipship Special!!! Paul LaSassa owned it for awhile he now has the old Warrior Boat which is now Island Racer

[Smarty]

You must tell us the details a 27 up against 2 41s. I did not know your father but if its hairy canery the magnum. i did hear that it just tip toed past frank. HAha great to read this give us more to this story?! do you know frank well?

I just spoke with my Uncle, Barry Hills. My father, Barry and his wife (my Aunt) Vicki were going north in the Ocean towards Absecon Inlet (inlet between Atlantic City and Brigintine) when the Island Runner was heading out of the inlet traveling south. My father did one of loops (U-turns) and went after Mr. Kerbeck. According to Uncle my father eased up along side, so there was not a head start by either boat then the race was on. My father passed Kerbeck and held the lead, Kerbeck could not get around him. My Aunt Vicki was in the front passenger bolster, and my Unckle ion the back bench seat. This race happened before my father put in a grab handle for the back seat passenger's to secure themselves when racing. My Uncle said it was choppy, and the Hairy Canary was airborne quite a bit, he felt as if he where going to fly out of the back of the boat, which to this day he will never forget. Keep in mind, my father would not back out it in a race like that, but he also knew how to drive that Magnum.

They raced in choppy water, it was a close race, but there was no doubt who had won the race that day. But this was not the day that that Mr.Kerbeck and my spoke - after the race Mr. Kerbeck kept traveling south, and did not stop for chit chat.

[Spicy]

Never went over a 100MPH in a 41.... but flew over 8' swells @75!!!!!!


I was in Geronimo in ths picture running from Indian River Inlet back to Ocean City with Jenny's Express and the Helo chasing us snapping pictures the whole way back.... I can tell you I have driven a few cats over the years one of them up to 146MPH and have ridden in several more, each one was a rush, but this was one of my favorite boat rides ever!!!! :sifone:

Pat

[Spicy]

Funny story after I posted the above and looked at the picture ....


That's "Tantra" in the front Port Bolster, you see his arm hanging out of the cockpit.... I'm in the rear Starboard 6pack...

We were clipping along and the guys in the Helo are pointing out to the side of the boat like something is wrong, Brian (owner) is coming off plane and we are all thinking the side of the boat maybe blown out the way the guys were reacting....


we slowed down looked over the side and the middle piece of the rubrail had popped out, Kent was holding it up as not to loose it more.

[Sean Stinson]

So he is the one who is holding the rub rail insert

[Geronimo36]

My father, Barry and his wife (my Aunt) Vicki were going north in the Ocean towards Absecon Inlet (inlet between Atlantic City and Brigintine) when the Island Runner was heading out of the inlet traveling south.

My Uncle said it was choppy, and the Hairy Canary was airborne quite a bit, he felt as if he where going to fly out of the back of the boat, which to this day he will never forget. Keep in mind, my father would not back out it in a race like that, but he also knew how to drive that Magnum.
.

I give your Aunt Vicki lots of credit, lord knows my wife would be punching my left arm/shoulder to get me to slow down.... I call her my rev. limiter, it kicks in around 75 mph...:ack2:

In hindsight she probably keeps me from having to do some rebuilds... lol

[Smarty]

The front passenger seat in the Magnum had floor cut-outs and and made you fell secure, that back seat was hardly anything. My Aunt just did not want to upset my father that day by asking him to slow down. I do not remember her ever getting on that boat again after that Sunday outing.

Many a girlfriend of mine became the rev limiter you speak of, my mother did the same to father that you speak of, "my wife would be punching my left arm/shoulder to get me to slow down." Exactly the same, too funny. My mother stopped boating once my father got the Magnum.

[Smarty]

Never went over a 100MPH in a 41.... but flew over 8' swells @75!!!!!!


I was in Geronimo in ths picture running from Indian River Inlet back to Ocean City with Jenny's Express and the Helo chasing us snapping pictures the whole way back.... I can tell you I have driven a few cats over the years one of them up to 146MPH and have ridden in several more, each one was a rush, but this was one of my favorite boat rides ever!!!! :sifone:

Pat


Now that's a cool picture.

[Offshoredrillin]

Wicked Won did 109-113, the black firewater boat is now a 6 pak boat the Herb did, it was originally the "Apache Trader", Jerrys saber is just over 100. The lipship boat went to england with no motors then the motors wound up over there as well, boat took on tons of water at the dock one day with a broken gimble, not total submerge but very close.

the quick tempered 47 with half cabin and 1300 sterlings did 117, there is a video somewhere of it on you tube.

and just for the record when paul did the 119 in the 41, I talked to him after and he said the boat was crazy loose, be careful in them much over. wicked won also had boxes which kept it a little more planted.

[Geronimo36]

Rob, I think it's time for you to join the tribe!!!

[Sean Stinson]

Wicked Won did 109-113, the black firewater boat is now a 6 pak boat the Herb did, it was originally the "Apache Trader", Jerrys saber is just over 100. The lipship boat went to england with no motors then the motors wound up over there as well, boat took on tons of water at the dock one day with a broken gimble, not total submerge but very close.

the quick tempered 47 with half cabin and 1300 sterlings did 117, there is a video somewhere of it on you tube.

and just for the record when paul did the 119 in the 41, I talked to him after and he said the boat was crazy loose, be careful in them much over. wicked won also had boxes which kept it a little more planted.

I am not buying that thing went 119....I will argue this until I am blue in the face...I have been an Apache guy for a long long time and not buying it....I will say it again there isn't one out there breaking 120 and if there's a 41 Apache breaking 110 I will pay to see it!!!!

[baywatch]

http://www.northcoastyachts.com/legend1.html

Step child but past the century mark with out a doubt. Beefed up power as well..

[phragle]

so now that we have worked over the fastest apache, who has the slowest bayliner??????

[Spicy]

So he is the one who is holding the rub rail insert

thats correct....

[Offshoredrillin]

I am not buying that thing went 119....I will argue this until I am blue in the face...I have been an Apache guy for a long long time and not buying it....I will say it again there isn't one out there breaking 120 and if there's a 41 Apache breaking 110 I will pay to see it!!!!
not debating that fact, with no pic it is just one persons word. when it was done it was with 1300 and psi blowers so not impossible. the numbers would work as well as the 47 did 117 with 1300 sterlings and a half cabin, so the weight difference alone makes it plausible.

[Geronimo36]

so now that we have worked over the fastest apache, who has the slowest bayliner??????

I think my in-laws Bayliner might qualify... It has a 305 small block with an alpha drive. I took it out on Monday with the family and we were cruising at a whopping 20 mph @ 3500 rpms!! :drool5::03::leaving:

But at least we were out on the water! :)

[Geronimo36]

http://www.northcoastyachts.com/legend1.html

Step child but past the century mark with out a doubt. Beefed up power as well..

Thanks for the link, I haven't seen that before. Boat looks solid.

What's interesting to me is the same company is building my fathers old boat; http://www.northcoastyachts.com/fino1.html

[Reed]

http://www.northcoastyachts.com/legend1.html

Step child but past the century mark with out a doubt. Beefed up power as well..



shhhhhh quiet is always better.. did not see you guys last weekend. How's she runnin? I was honestly late gettin thier,Brad and I stayed up all night finishing her up . Hay Bam says thiers runs 121 on thier website,I believe..........

[Sean Stinson]

http://www.northcoastyachts.com/legend1.html

Step child but past the century mark with out a doubt. Beefed up power as well..

Thats all well and good but I am talking about the Apaches laid up at apache by apache those are the ones that I am talking about if you take current technology and lay up a good epoxy boat I am sure you will have something that will be faster that the old ones...Now out of the 75 41's built and thats all there is, is 75!!!! Show me one breaking 110 and I will buy you the best stripper you have ever had!!!!!:sifone::sifone::sifone:

[stormrider]

Put a pair of 1300s + arnesons in MMs 41... should be close to 120.
But that'd be alot of $ to shell out for the best stripper ever! :eek:

[Sean Stinson]

Put a pair of 1300s + arnesons in MMs 41... should be close to 120.
But that'd be alot of $ to shell out for the best stripper ever! :eek:

You're better off leaving the Arnesons off....just my opinion!!!

[phragle]

so what would tripple 1500 sterlings hooked to 6's do???

[Ratickle]

so what would tripple 1500 sterlings hooked to 6's do???

Add about $400,000 cost......:)

[phragle]

Add about $400,000 cost......:)

why are you sweating the little details..... we play with live ammo, not cap guns here.

[Sean Stinson]

so what would tripple 1500 sterlings hooked to 6's do???

In a 47 probably bump around upper teens in the right water MIGHT touch 120

[phragle]

I have the answer!!!! took a minute to think of it. the answer lies in where the motors are...there is only so much room in the back of the boat. If we set up 6 1500 sterlings, we could get moving.. Just mount them like this..

[Sean Stinson]

I was just on the phone with Bobby talking about life in South Florida and during that conversation asked him the speeds of the ones that he raced over the years.....

Warpath on it's best day with him and Benny ran 93!!!
Meanstreak on its best day ran 89!!!!!
Warpath after the rerig and 6's and Cobras ran approx 103-104

We are still in agreement that "Allez Vite" is still the fastest at about a buck 06....

If you have a faster one then you have to show me.......

[Geronimo36]

What did Alez have for power?? When racing one year I think I remember it having 1000's, how about later on? I'm pretty sure the X Dimension was also raised.

[Sean Stinson]

What did Alez have for power?? When racing one year I think I remember it having 1000's, how about later on? I'm pretty sure the X Dimension was also raised.

It was running 1000 SC Mercs when Pete had it after he replaced the Cobras with them....Last ones that I am basing the top speed off was Zul 1000+ SC the 653 CI ones lots of torque and pull!!!! All the later ones had a very high x some of them were too high towards the end of the run

[TONTO]

sorry, but ya'll are a li'l behind on the top speeds. Even though they are old and heavy there are a couple that are pretty damn fast out there. Don't ask. Stinson i'll call you back, sorry for the delay, trying to get back to the 21st century

[Dude! Sweet!]

I have the answer!!!! took a minute to think of it. the answer lies in where the motors are...there is only so much room in the back of the boat. If we set up 6 1500 sterlings, we could get moving.. Just mount them like this..

What boat is that?! I have another pic of it on my computer and never knew what it was (other than AWESOME). Is that the boat Gar Wood ran over 100 in?

[Sean Stinson]

sorry, but ya'll are a li'l behind on the top speeds. Even though they are old and heavy there are a couple that are pretty damn fast out there. Don't ask. Stinson i'll call you back, sorry for the delay, trying to get back to the 21st century

OMFG I don't believe who has come to grace us with their presence!!!! What's up, Bubba?????

Look out now the official Apache historian is here!!! I can lay back and either be schooled or watch him school the rest of you!!!!
:sifone::sifone::sifone::sifone::sifone::sifone:

[ChiefApache]

OMFG I don't believe who has come to grace us with their presence!!!! What's up, Bubba?????

Look out now the official Apache historian is here!!! I can lay back and either be schooled or watch him school the rest of you!!!!
:sifone::sifone::sifone::sifone::sifone::sifone:

Ditto that! I did a double take this morning when I saw his name here.

If I'm not mistaken, I think he owned our boat for quite a few years when she was new. I'd like to talk to you Tonto. :)

[OldSchool]

sorry, but ya'll are a li'l behind on the top speeds. Even though they are old and heavy there are a couple that are pretty damn fast out there. Don't ask. Stinson i'll call you back, sorry for the delay, trying to get back to the 21st century

Welcome Tonto!!! Glad to see you posting. :)

Craig

[Sean Stinson]

Ditto that! I did a double take this morning when I saw his name here.

If I'm not mistaken, I think he owned our boat for quite a few years when she was new. I'd like to talk to you Tonto. :)

Yes he did he took it on trade when he sold Medicine Man to Austin Mansur!!

[NJgr8ful]

Hi smart, not sure i know eds and franks are real close with frank being a bit quicker but each year is different and on any given sunday anyone can loose. i think bob w. ran by them both with his race 38, thats what put himself on the map, but it was a handfull

Bob's 38 race has now been redone ... power being installed as we type.

[NJgr8ful]

Bob's 38 race has now been redone ... power being installed as we type.

"Formerly" (meant to say) Bobby's 38 race boat :sifone:

[lucy]

I was just on the phone with Bobby talking about life in South Florida and during that conversation asked him the speeds of the ones that he raced over the years.....

Warpath on it's best day with him and Benny ran 93!!!
Meanstreak on its best day ran 89!!!!!
Warpath after the rerig and 6's and Cobras ran approx 103-104

We are still in agreement that "Allez Vite" is still the fastest at about a buck 06....

If you have a faster one then you have to show me.......

It is all about the thrill of the ride!!!:hurray: Hi Sean!

[lucy]

check this video out! http;www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzXEBw7Uupo

[smokeybandit]

I know that we ran low 90's with the banner boat.

31660

[Sean Stinson]

It is all about the thrill of the ride!!!:hurray: Hi Sean!

Hey Lucy....How are you???

[Sean Stinson]

I know that we ran low 90's with the banner boat.

31660

Yes sir I agree!!!!:sifone::sifone:

[drpete3]

Yes sir I agree!!!!:sifone::sifone: Sean, I applaude you for your statement that there isnt one over 106. you have stuck to it and noone had been able to substanciate anything over that. So it seems that ist all rumor as of now

[lucy]

doing great thank you!!:) I saw this apache running on my way to Isla Morada he was moving pretty good! and the boat looks great, the owner has had several Apaches and loves all of them.
Hey Lucy....How are you???

[Sean Stinson]

doing great thank you!!:) I saw this apache running on my way to Isla Morada he was moving pretty good! and the boat looks great, the owner has had several Apaches and loves all of them.

I saw it yesterday on the trailer at Mark Adams shop getting ready to head north for the summer!!! She is the baddest one of all of the 47's IMHO:sifone::sifone:

[Sean Stinson]

Sean, I applaude you for your statement that there isnt one over 106. you have stuck to it and noone had been able to substanciate anything over that. So it seems that ist all rumor as of now

I have been around them for a long time!!!!!

[Sean Stinson]

And I will put another one together soon I hope but I think I want to do a 47 this time around!!!!

[LittleDcsRodShop]

What boat is that?! I have another pic of it on my computer and never knew what it was (other than AWESOME). Is that the boat Gar Wood ran over 100 in?

Ditto that !! That boat is friking sweet dude !!!

I absolutly Love All the 41's !! However I sure do have a weekness for that yeller half bread !!! :drool5::drool5:

On with the rest of the thread... I hope to find all this out on my own one day..:drool5:

[Dan Adams]

Hey Scott, yup gotta love those yankee half breeds. One of which made some really sweet sounding noise a couple days ago for the first time in years. Also gotta respect Seans stance on "Built by Apache".

[Geronimo36]

Does that mean we'll be seeing WW run again? :coolgleamA:

[Dan Adams]

Yes, :sifone:

[OldSchool]

Yes, :sifone:

Sweet!!!:sifone:

[Ratickle]

Does that mean we'll be seeing WW run again? :coolgleamA:


Yes, :sifone:


Sweet!!!:sifone:

Agree......., Sweet........:26:

[LittleDcsRodShop]

Hey Scott, yup gotta love those yankee half breeds. One of which made some really sweet sounding noise a couple days ago for the first time in years. Also gotta respect Seans stance on "Built by Apache".

No doubt, I have some love for the yankee half breeds & can't help but respect the "built by Apache" statement !!!

Man that has to feel pretty friking good to hear that baby fire up !!!! When are you splashing ???

btw: If you want to see me kick my but in high gear on little brother get some video.. lol... It would be like a crack pipe to me..:willy_nilly:

[Sean Stinson]

Yes, :sifone:

Thats cool she is one bad b!tch......:sifone::sifone::sifone:

[JCG]

Sorry for the ignorance, but what boat is WW??

JCG

[Bobcat]

wicked won , saber 41

[Dan Adams]

Thanks Sean! Scott, yaa man, feels really good to say the least. They idle nice, 1200rpm no surging. 75lbs oil pressure, no leaks yet. Sounding really healthy. She is still on race fuel...may stay that way.

[LittleDcsRodShop]

"She is still on race fuel...may stay that way."

Yikes that would be a tuff fill up !!! But wow that sweet aroma comming out the back of that beast !!! Nearly priceless !!!

[Dan Adams]

ar15miester, sorry bout the hijack. ww is a half breed. JCG more info on another site. She has a sorted past. The guy who had it built is one great dude. 41 Saber, 1200 Sterlings, full stagger, 6s on boxes. She has seen 113, I have yet to find out.

[ar15meister]

no worries on the hijack. I am just happy to read all of these comments. I dont even own an Apache......just a little black Pantera.

All very interesting to me.

Cheers.

[Sean Stinson]

no worries on the hijack. I am just happy to read all of these comments. I dont even own an Apache......just a little black Pantera.

All very interesting to me.

Cheers.

Hey there's nothing wrong with a Pantera.....Pepe and Jo build a hell of a boat....I have seen the whole process!!!!

[ar15meister]

Hey there's nothing wrong with a Pantera.....Pepe and Jo build a hell of a boat....I have seen the whole process!!!!

that they do......:sifone:

I am getting my first ride in a 41 this summer, god willing. A client of mine owns the bowrider banner boat and he offered me a ride in it I am pretty excited, really hope he doesnt forget because I dont want to be that guy who asks/begs/pleads for a ride!lol. :sifone:

[Sean Stinson]

that they do......:sifone:

I am getting my first ride in a 41 this summer, god willing. A client of mine owns the bowrider banner boat and he offered me a ride in it I am pretty excited, really hope he doesnt forget because I dont want to be that guy who asks/begs/pleads for a ride!lol. :sifone:

Bowrider Banner boat?????? The Team Apache boat with the banner on it???

[Offshoredrillin]

Bowrider Banner boat?????? The Team Apache boat with the banner on it???
It was Shaka, and Loren made it into a bow rider and painted it like the banner boat.

[LittleDcsRodShop]

It was Shaka, and Loren made it into a bow rider and painted it like the banner boat.

I'm really not one to bust on anybodys stuff at all & if the owner is on here I will go ahead & apologize up front,
But a bowrider out of a 41Apache...:eek: Shouldn't that be some sort of crime ?

[Ratickle]

I'm really not one to bust on anybodys stuff at all & if the owner is on here I will go ahead & apologize up front,
But a bowrider out of a 41Apache...:eek: Shouldn't that be some sort of crime ?

I think it's called unique!!!!:ack2:

[Sean Stinson]

Unique????? Unique???? I will say it is unique alright.....don't think I would use it as a Wave Crusher anymore though!!!!

[Smarty]

It was Shaka, and Loren made it into a bow rider and painted it like the banner boat.

There was an article in one of the boating magazines about the transformation of that 41' - bow rider, renovation, ect. I have the magazine (not sure if it HotBoat, PowerBoat, Extreme Boat, Poker Runs - I used to get them all), not sure where it is, but I do remember the pictures, and the article, and it did discuss why the owner wanted the deck cut out. Again I don't remember what the owner said.

(Dam alcohol makes it tough to remember every little detail):cheers2:

[ar15meister]

Owner has seen and done it all so I am sure this is just a fun little thing for him.

It is an awesome boat. I am not a huge fan of the bowrider thing but it is still a badassed boat with 1000hp Chief 's and #6's.

Personally I would have loved to see it still black but that is personal opinion.

[Offshoredrillin]

Owner has seen and done it all so I am sure this is just a fun little thing for him.

It is an awesome boat. I am not a huge fan of the bowrider thing but it is still a badassed boat with 1000hp Chief 's and #6's.

Personally I would have loved to see it still black but that is personal opinion.
I agree, with all he has done with and for apaches he is entitled to do as he pleases. He did save everything so if he wants to put it back he can.

[fund razor]

I agree, with all he has done with and for apaches he is entitled to do as he pleases. He did save everything so if he wants to put it back he can.

I would think that being the owner of the boat would be enough entitlement.

[Ratickle]

I would think that being the owner of the boat would be enough entitlement.

Can I come with my sawzall and modify yours into a bowrider?????:sifone:

[fund razor]

Can I come with my sawzall and modify yours into a bowrider?????:sifone:

Sure. Just become the owner first.
Heck... take it all the way to the anchor locker. Some fresh air would do that cabin some good.

I will take the BT in on trade. You can keep the power from the BT, and I will keep my new power. :D

[ChiefApache]

Sure. Just become the owner first.
Heck... take it all the way to the anchor locker. Some fresh air would do that cabin some good.

I will take the BT in on trade. You can keep the power from the BT, and I will keep my new power. :D

Better get yourself some #3A's or #6's for that BT!

[fund razor]

Better get yourself some #3A's or #6's for that BT!

Mr. Gadgets can make me Bravos that will work. ;)

[Ratickle]

Better get yourself some #3A's or #6's for that BT!

It's got 3a's on it already.....

[ChiefApache]

It's got 3a's on it already.....

Ahhh, smart man! :)

Bring it to Toldeo next weekend for a local Fun Run. It's a great time.

[TONTO]

I bet my boat's faster than yours

[cashbrain]

Some things never change...watz up Robert?

[TONTO]

Just having a li'l fun

[DAREDEVIL]

The fastest 41 built EVER was and still is ALLEZ VITE !!!!!!!!!!!!
followed , back then , by the Banner Boat and Warpath, then Hoggie and some others.



ALSO ITS NOT HOW FAST U GO ,,,,,ITS HOW LONG U GO FAST !!!!!!!!!!

[14 apache]

Star Chaser will run 104.6 with 890hp fuel injected NA 598" #6 drives. Any other non supercharged 41 Apaches running close to that or faster?

Will run now 110.7 950NA engines in it. Any 41 apaches out there with big mph? Have not bin on here in a long time.

[Ratickle]

Will run now 110.7 950NA engines in it. Any 41 apaches out there with big mph? Have not bin on here in a long time.

That's a big number.....


Congrats......:hurray::hurray::hurray:

[600sci]

That's a big number.....


Congrats......:hurray::hurray::hurray:

I think Allez Vite ran around 112 back when !!! just sayin' but not 100% sure !:cool:

[14 apache]

I think Allez Vite ran around 112 back when !!! just sayin' but not 100% sure !:cool:

I dont think so 112mph where did you here this? peter roads owned this boat think i recall it was around 104mph with 1000hp mercs in it. Preditor with big power was around 112mph.

[600sci]

I dont think so 112mph where did you here this? peter roads owned this boat think i recall it was around 104mph with 1000hp mercs in it. Preditor with big power was around 112mph.

Maybe your right, i was thinking Preditor !!!! not sure....like i said ..LOL:cheers2:

BTW, IM NEVER SURE !!!! :rolleyes::biggrinjester:

[14 apache]

http://youtu.be/FH4-MTlN738

[chewiekw]

Why does it take so much power to get a 41 over 100mph? Is it the design of the boat or the weight?

[14 apache]

Why does it take so much power to get a 41 over 100mph? Is it the design of the boat or the weight?

A lot to do with the weight. My boat is about 11,000lbs with 3 people about 100 gallons of gas. And the boat needs to be set up rite.

[DrGaryDC]

Very impressed with your boat and the numbers. Any advice to help us dial ours in is appreciated, thanks for chatting last time
Gary

[14 apache]

Very impressed with your boat and the numbers. Any advice to help us dial ours in is appreciated, thanks for chatting last time
Gary

I will call you soon give you a good starting point. The #5 drives are good start. Need the drives high and ext boxes. 1.5 gear will work. Need to dyno your motors have to know how much power they make. I would turn the props in. Rake of the props 15 degree.:cheers2:Prop shafts above the bottom.

[chewiekw]

What does a typical Outerlimits 40SV or 43SV run as far as weight and speed?

[Sean Stinson]

I think Allez Vite ran around 112 back when !!! just sayin' but not 100% sure !:cool:

I have covered this so many times....Allez Vite was the fastest forever and a day at 104-106....Predator seems to have conquered the title from what I have been told at 110ish with big Tommy Chief power!!!!! as for the rest the 112's the 117's the 120's.....bull phucking doodoo

[Ratickle]

I have covered this so many times....Allez Vite was the fastest forever and a day at 104-106....Predator seems to have conquered the title from what I have been told at 110ish with big Tommy Chief power!!!!! as for the rest the 112's the 117's the 120's.....bull phucking doodoo

Don't hold back Sean.......


By the way, you need to hook a ride in that Bad Boy going that speed.....

You can be the official Apache speedo prover......:sifone:

[kidapache]

you are right you need 1000hp to run a 41 apache race boat 100mph i have owned three of these boats they dont all run the same mine has 950 blower motors it runs 98.99mph with #5 drives on 87 pump gas any one can say they run 110 my other one ran 110mph let see these boat do it. we can have a 41 apache run in two weeks in AC N.J.to see those big 110 numbers

[Sean Stinson]

Don't hold back Sean.......


By the way, you need to hook a ride in that Bad Boy going that speed.....

You can be the official Apache speedo prover......:sifone:

Hell I have enough seat time to be the one to run them to prove the legitimacy of all of them!!!

[Sean Stinson]

What does a typical Outerlimits 40SV or 43SV run as far as weight and speed?

Depends on the power but they are fast!!!

[Ratickle]

we can have a 41 apache run in two weeks in AC N.J.to see those big 110 numbers


You can be the official Apache speedo prover......:sifone:


Hell I have enough seat time to be the one .... to prove the legitimacy of all of them!!!


Sounds like a plan to me.......:D

[Wreckdoctor]

What does a typical Outerlimits 40SV or 43SV run as far as weight and speed?

Had a legacy to 105 this weekend with lots more to go and I gotta say I needed more seat time to feel comfortable in it, they ride flat as a pancake! The boat has seen 127 with the 1075s in it, ride nothing like apaches that's for sure....!

[Wreckdoctor]

Sean, You gonna make key west?.... Were headed down to south beach Tuesday night! You oughta join us.....

[Sean Stinson]

Sean, You gonna make key west?.... Were headed down to south beach Tuesday night! You oughta join us.....

Thats the plan buddy....might join you in South Beach....Mango's?????

[Wreckdoctor]

Good to hear your coming, mangos sounds good. I'm bringing some south beach virgins, Brett from performance boat brokerage and his fiancé mckenzie will be down as well, looking forward to it, stay in touch.

[Sean Stinson]

uh oh this could be a night to remember or we will all be bankrupt before its over!!!!

[Ratickle]

Let me know if we need to pick up the pieces when we get there Thursday......

[Sean Stinson]

Let me know if we need to pick up the pieces when we get there Thursday......

Absolutely you will need to pick up the pieces bud

[Ratickle]

Absolutely you will need to pick up the pieces bud

So I need to change the car to a van?????

[Sean Stinson]

That's a pretty good bet

[Ratickle]

That's a pretty good bet

Maybe we should just come a couple days early and babysit.......:sifone:

[Sean Stinson]

Maybe we should just come a couple days early and babysit.......:sifone:

Now there's a plan:sifone::sifone:

[rschap1]

You guys watch my kids. Take 'em for the weekend will ya?

[Sean Stinson]

You guys watch my kids. Take 'em for the weekend will ya?

Trust me they will be morally corrupted after that evening if you send them to us....just sayin

[Ratickle]

You guys watch my kids. Take 'em for the weekend will ya?


Trust me they will be morally corrupted after that evening if you send them to us....just sayin

And that would be the least of their worries.....:sifone:



Can anyone here imagine Sean as a babysitter????????:eek:

[Wreckdoctor]

Rat, that's what I'm looking for from my relationship with Sean!!! He babysat my a$$ at the shootout this year, somebody's gotta keep track of me in southbeach!!! Or wait??? Was it me babysitting him, it's all cloudy but I think I did tuck him in that night! Hahahahaha!!!

[Sean Stinson]

There was loud music.....and a few stops here and there trying to track my brother-in-law down!!!!

What are you trying to say Paul that the ones I babysit wouldn't get one hell of an education bud???? And in one night at that where else can you find a deal like that...just sayin!!!!!

[Ratickle]

There was loud music.....and a few stops here and there trying to track my brother-in-law down!!!!

What are you trying to say Paul that the ones I babysit wouldn't get one hell of an education bud???? And in one night at that where else can you find a deal like that...just sayin!!!!!

Yes, it would be a "Quality" education. But what would the name of the course be??????


And how many repeats would you get for the Masters and PHD courses????

[Sean Stinson]

Yes, it would be a "Quality" education. But what would the name of the course be??????


And how many repeats would you get for the Masters and PHD courses????

What not to tell your mother 101.....

There's not enough courses to match "The Illustrious 1"

[Wreckdoctor]

I got my Stinson diploma! Goin for my masters in south beach....
Game on for Sbi worlds..... Hoping somebody has bail money!!!!!
:-0

[14 apache]

you are right you need 1000hp to run a 41 apache race boat 100mph i have owned three of these boats they dont all run the same mine has 950 blower motors it runs 98.99mph with #5 drives on 87 pump gas any one can say they run 110 my other one ran 110mph let see these boat do it. we can have a 41 apache run in two weeks in AC N.J.to see those big 110 numbers

If you can only get 98.99mph out of yours sorry to here that with 950hp weather you owned 3 or 10 apaches. Mine with less than 1000hp will run past 100mph with 960hp every time. Just had a run around nyc today did very good for a resin buckit. Up river or down river will run over 100mph!!!!. I have video of it...........:driving:

[Ratickle]

Let's get that vid up!!!!!!!:)

[Sean Stinson]

If you can only get 98.99mph out of yours sorry to here that with 950hp weather you owned 3 or 10 apaches. Mine with less than 1000hp will run past 100mph with 960hp every time. Just had a run around nyc today did very good for a resin buckit. Up river or down river will run over 100mph!!!!. I have video of it...........:driving:

Eric you have a fast boat and I know it was fast when it was StarChaser and the Montevecchio's ran it....you are one of the lucky one's because Paully is right it takes a lot of power to push these things but once you get into the 80+ range these things really come to life!!!!