Older Race Boats (daddy cool)

[boomer35]

Are the older race boats too tired to race? I've been seriously talking to small sponsors and really considering stepping towards racing. I'm not interested in a step bottom boat, somethings straight bottom, and i dont have 100's of thousands to spend on a second "hobby/sport" boat

so if not daddy cool, whats out there, and are the older boats washed up

http://www.boattrader.com/listing/1973-CIGARETTE-35-93876865

[Audiofn]

Specialized racing is running I think it is a 1988 Superboat. They are national champs 2 years in a row now. So if you pick the correct boat for the class that you want to run then even an old boat can run with the best of them.

[Whoz Your Daddy]

We are running a 1979 Mirage check out the web site.

[sbracing]

Our current boat is a 1979 Corsa, I think Bounty Hunter is '77 or '78

[boomer35]

its just a little weary to me, daddy cool is a 1973, making it a 36yr old boat, with a pretty long race history

i dont want to hit a swell and have the throttles on one half of the boat and the steering on the other half of the boat..... no longer attached

[Chris]

70's race boats wer built very heavy. There's a reason you don't see many from the 80's- the era of the light layups.

Nordskog's CAM just sold on Ebay for about $20 grand. You could have been very competitive in any race that isn't in a bay in that boat. Dry Martini is a restored showpiece. Last I heard it was a buck & a quarter.

[Chris]

I think Bounty Hunter is '77 or '78

Yeah, a 36 Cig with a back seat and chrome horns on the deck- and rod holders in the gunwhales. And one hell of alot of race wins.

[boomer35]

70's race boats wer built very heavy. There's a reason you don't see many from the 80's- the era of the light layups.

Nordskog's CAM just sold on Ebay for about $20 grand. You could have been very competitive in any race that isn't in a bay in that boat. Dry Martini is a restored showpiece. Last I heard it was a buck & a quarter.

damn, i thought i saw it not too long ago, maybe a yr when it was daddy cool for like 40k.

[boomer35]

the add about from boattrader didnt make it look like a restored show piece

[Chris]

It was a few years ago- and I don't think it's been used in that period.

[stecz20]

why not buy your old mans boat...

[Chris]

As far as old race boats, Dellatore won a world championship in Key West a couple years back in a 22 year-old Apache.

It's all in what you buy. A race boat is going to be wide open underneath. You need to look at all the stringers, bulkheads and tabbing and see what's there and what's been repaired.

[boomer35]

dont want an F2 TS top gun, im pretty sure its the only one of the 4 built that yr that didnt roll or sink, which would mean i'd be swimmin! I did think about it though

[Sean Stinson]

dont want an F2 TS top gun, im pretty sure its the only one of the 4 built that yr that didnt roll or sink, which would mean i'd be swimmin! I did think about it though

It's a fast boat though you just have to drive the balls off it if you slip it will bite you!!!!!!

[Sean Stinson]

How much money do you have to spend there are alot of things out there for under 100k that you could have fun with!!!!!!

[boomer35]

not sure on what i want spend yet, i'd like to be able to keep the Mystique i have now.. but i would consider finding a partner or biting the bullet if the right boat came about

i know ill need over 40k for anything worth a chit, but i definitly cant afford 100k, especially sinse im sure banks arent just tossing out loans on older race boats, meaning this will be more than likely a cash adventure

[northernoffshore]

daddy cool / crazy greek is still in great shape and fast too, and it hit 90mph with 800's and had more to go.

[boomer35]

where is it now?

[Gladhe8er]

Saw it in Key West 07. Looked great.

[northernoffshore]

Daddy cool is in N. ft. myers , fl. and the owners want to sell. The boat looked great when I saw it, with new canvas and the stickers off . You have to see it. to appreciate how nice it is.here is the craigslist ad http://fortmyers.craigslist.org/boa/1140983705.html

[stecz20]

a lot of boat for the money..... im sure if you want byrd used to own that pig, hell tell you anything you want.. ill get his number if you want...

[boomer35]

i'm calling on it today, that is the boat i wanted for around the price i wanted to pay

[Top Banana]

HORBA is actively working to put together a couple of events each year so these old boats can run and be competitive too. We are trying to save these old race boats and let them be seen by the people who love this kind of open ocean racing.

Next February, 2010, we are running the Miami to Key West race on the weekend after the Miami Boat Show....it is a 185 mile run. The Daddy Cool and Nordskog's boat and Bounty Hunter...the 39 from last years Key West would do just fine against modern race boats that were made to race 60 or 70 miles in a calm water off a beach.

Next August, 2010, we are running the Around Long Island Marathon in a 2 day event. Two nice events, with plenty of time between to save up your race budget.

The photos below show 35 footers from the old days. The last photo, the white boat sold for less than $10,000 last year. They are out there, just keep looking.

HORBA is no longer involved with the Bimini race held in June, but that is another event that your boat could do very well in if the seas kick up a bit.....last year it was flat calm and the faster boats had a smooth run over and back.

More info under Racing on our site.... www.historicraceboats.com

[Edward R. Cozzi]

I survey many old and former race boats and most of the time they ARE way overbuilt and in safe condition. Most of the repairs I have examined made the boat stronger in that area than it was initially. The racers of that era wanted solid, heavy and strong hulls. They got their speed from the engines. Most of the lightweight "potato chip" hulls are in landfills by now.

[northernoffshore]

when byrdman owed it.

[stecz20]

i bet thats a fun ride..... i also betha hed trade that for the skater tomorrow...

[OldSchool]

i bet thats a fun ride..... i also betha hed trade that for the skater tomorrow...


What ever happened to that Skater? Is he planning on running it again?

[stecz20]

i have not spoken to byrd in a while.. i think he still has it and is running it again, then selling it.. thats what i heard anyway....

[phragle]

did byrd ever crack the 200 mark?

[stecz20]

dont think so, thats what hes doing this year.... then selling....lol

[Next Generation]

Our current boat is a 1979 Corsa, I think Bounty Hunter is '77 or '78

There is also the "Dirty Pearl" Boat around, we ran against it, in Tenn. in 2007 the old Snapper Norris' Slap Shot It was a blast runnin against those guys!

Jr

[Euro Scott]

http://forums.screamandfly.com/forums/showthread.php?t=184637
$60 k in Atlanta

[2TR]

not sure on what i want spend yet, i'd like to be able to keep the Mystique i have now.. but i would consider finding a partner or biting the bullet if the right boat came about

i know ill need over 40k for anything worth a chit, but i definitly cant afford 100k, especially sinse im sure banks arent just tossing out loans on older race boats, meaning this will be more than likely a cash adventure

There are 3 or 4 Class #4 boats forsale under 40k right now that are competitive and not that old.

[MikeyFIN]

dont think so, thats what hes doing this year.... then selling....lol


Why don´t he get a 28 skater..that one can take on even in seas any current 35 footer outthere.. with a pari of 2.5 EFIs or 300Xs it´s a 120mph ride right there.
And a serious asswhooper from the the start to the end.
Plus easy to operate and handle by yourself even.

[MattBMiller]

There is also the "Dirty Pearl" Boat around, we ran against it, in Tenn. in 2007 the old Snapper Norris' Slap Shot It was a blast runnin against those guys!

Jr

We had the Dirty Pearl and the Bounty Hunter running together at the St Clair race a few weeks back. Both really cool boats!

[MikeyFIN]

There´s loads of old racers rotting away globally even in My hometown theres several.

Fact is there always has been and there always will be.

[Dude! Sweet!]

http://forums.screamandfly.com/forums/showthread.php?t=184637
$60 k in Atlanta

This one?