Outerlimits introduction of new models

[JoeD]

Has anyone seen pics of the 3 new models they were to introduce back at the Miami show? ------ SL52,SL44,SL36

[phragle]

just the picks from the show, with new models you would think they would have something on the website...there would be piks floating around and reports on how they ran... the silence seems kind of strange

[Wrinkleface]

Friend has a`new 44 2 B built soon!!:)

[JupiterSunsation]

There was a thread on the SL36 and Stecz was handling the info/getting pics........ I guess he is in the basement still masterbating over pics of the "fatboy" Cigarette.......

[phragle]

he has been noticably missing lately...one can only wonder what maniacal plan he is busy working on....

[Biggus]

-Spoke with Gary at the OL factory last week. They're keeping busy!

Positive thoughts guys, it's tough out there for everyone.

Kurt

[JupiterSunsation]

They have some of the coolest boats out there but their dealer network isn't great.

The 41SL is a great looking boat and if the new boats look like that they should have a few new winners on their hands. They have introduced more new boats in the last 10 years than almost any other boat company out there.

[ufix1]

keep the pics coming!!!!

[phragle]

-Spoke with Gary at the OL factory last week. They're keeping busy!

Positive thoughts guys, it's tough out there for everyone.

Kurt

my thought on the tough out there.... posting pics, and new model specs and performance data, costs an hour on the computer, yet would reach a majority of their target audience. your not going to sell somethingif you hide it in the back of the shop......

[Team Tsunami]

They have only built a 52SL that was sold to over seas I believe. They havnt built a 44 or 36 yet. Dont worry when they do build them they will be head turners for sure!!

[catmando]

They have some of the coolest boats out there but their dealer network isn't great.

The 41SL is a great looking boat and if the new boats look like that they should have a few new winners on their hands. They have introduced more new boats in the last 10 years than almost any other boat company out there.The 42SL got its ass handed to it by a boat that was 2500lbs heavier(Laveycraft 39EVO).

[Big Time]

The 42SL got its ass handed to it by a boat that was 2500lbs heavier(Laveycraft 39EVO).

Equal power?

[Pro1]

Rumor has it the Superleggra was turning 6200 rpms on Merc 700's.

[GENERAL LEE]

They have some of the coolest boats out there but their dealer network isn't great.



What problems have you had with their dealers? Just curious since there are so few.

[JupiterSunsation]

What problems have you had with their dealers? Just curious since there are so few.

Not any problem except they only have LCM as a dealer........ Makes it tough to sell product if you only dealer is in Kentucky. Dealers can help with trades/service so if you don't have a decent dealer network you might find it tough to sell your 24 boats a year......

[GENERAL LEE]

Not any problem except they only have LCM as a dealer........ Makes it tough to sell product if you only dealer is in Kentucky. Dealers can help with trades/service so if you don't have a decent dealer network you might find it tough to sell your 24 boats a year......

Gotcha. I thought there were one or two other OL dealers as well, but I guess they've trimmed it to one. They are pretty much a direct purchase builder anyway.

[Big Time]

The 42SL got its ass handed to it by a boat that was 2500lbs heavier(Laveycraft 39EVO).

Pretty sure it's a 41, not 42.


Rumor has it the Superleggra was turning 6200 rpms on Merc 700's.

Saw it run at the NYC Poker run last year and heard it was one of the first boats to the bridge....not bad for stock 700's ....runs 110+ with the right set up from what I'm told.

[JupiterSunsation]

Gotcha. I thought there were one or two other OL dealers as well, but I guess they've trimmed it to one. They are pretty much a direct purchase builder anyway.

Hideaway was one......

[Geronimo36]

One question, why do they keep changing their models and lenghts???? I could see changing bottoms and designs but why is every new design a new model? Chevy, Ford, Toyota and most of the other mainstream manufacturers change the designs of their cars but rarely release new models. Every year or two there seems to be a new model which basically eliminates the one before. they had a 37' stilletto, 37' GTX, 39' ?, 41', 42' Legacy, 42 GTX, 43',, 44SL, 46', 47', 47' GTX, 51, 53SL...I'm sure I left out a few.

Don't get me wrong, I love their boats but why not stick with similar model names and lengths like the legacy's and GTX's why all these other lengths and model names? if you buy a boat two years later it's obsolete.

just my thoughts...don't mean to pee in any wheaties.

[fast fun 2]

Pretty sure it's a 41, not 42.



Saw it run at the NYC Poker run last year and heard it was one of the first boats to the bridge....not bad for stock 700's ....runs 110+ with the right set up from what I'm told.

39 Hustler was right there with it

[catmando]

Equal power?Yes Merc 700s NXT drives.

[Sean H]

The 42SL got its ass handed to it by a boat that was 2500lbs heavier(Laveycraft 39EVO).

how so? it ran 110 stock and like 117 hopped up a little? is the evo that fast?

[Tommy Gun]

Rumor has it the Superleggra was turning 6200 rpms on Merc 700's.

:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

[catmando]

Pretty sure it's a 41, not 42.

Saw it run at the NYC Poker run last year and heard it was one of the first boats to the bridge....not bad for stock 700's ....runs 110+ with the right set up from what I'm told.Yes 41...

The only difference in setup was the EVO ran 17 3/4x37" props and the SL ran 16 1/4x39" props. The EVO weighed 10,500lbs and the SL weighed 8000lbs.

EVO stats;
Time to plane 5.2sec
Zero-10sec 56mph
Zero-20sec 90mph
30-50 4.4sec
40-70 7.3sec
Top speed 110.4@5350

SL stats
Time to plane n/a
Zero-10sec 45mph
Zero-20sec 82mph
30-50 5.4sec
40-70 7.8sec
Top speed 115@5400

Did the 37" props give the EVO the edge here? I don't know, but the numbers are quite telling. Maybe somebody who knows more about props can say, but giving up 2500lbs and still running away from one of the top three V bottoms in the world, I would say Laveycraft obviously got their bottom right.

Sean,

The numbers above are those that Powerboat posted in the August 2008 issue. You can see that the OL didn't start catching up until about 100mph.

[Sean H]

Yes 41...

The only difference in setup was the EVO ran 17 3/4x37" props and the SL ran 16 1/4x39" props. The EVO weighed 10,500lbs and the SL weighed 8000lbs.

EVO stats;
Time to plane 5.2sec
Zero-10sec 56mph
Zero-20sec 90mph
30-50 4.4sec
40-70 7.3sec
Top speed 110.4@5350

SL stats
Time to plane n/a
Zero-10sec 45mph
Zero-20sec 82mph
30-50 5.4sec
40-70 7.8sec
Top speed 115@5400

Did the 37" props give the EVO the edge here? I don't know, but the numbers are quite telling. Maybe somebody who knows more about props can say, but giving up 2500lbs and still running away from one of the top three V bottoms in the world, I would say Laveycraft obviously got their bottom right.

Sean,

The numbers above are those that Powerboat posted in the August 2008 issue. You can see that the OL didn't start catching up until about 100mph.

I don't worry much about magazine tests. The new issue of PB has the evo going 106 and slower than the numbers you posted. So what does that mean? As far as weights, they don't weigh them, they are guesses (provided by the builder). Unless they test them on the same day and same conditions with similiar setups, your not gonna learn anything.

and yes, a set of 39's will accelerate slower and top end more if the engine can pull them than a set of 37's, thats how it works. You have to read between the lines with powerboat tests.

I rode in the OL at the boat show last year with 4 people and a half tank at 107.

[catmando]

Teague said he couldn't get away from the beam winds that's why he didn't run as fast as the last time.

[Sean H]

like i said, side by side on the same day setup for the same purpose...

magazines are entertaining, but lets not put much into their numbers.

[lavey jr]

I don't worry much about magazine tests. The new issue of PB has the evo going 106 and slower than the numbers you posted. So what does that mean? As far as weights, they don't weigh them, they are guesses (provided by the builder). Unless they test them on the same day and same conditions with similiar setups, your not gonna learn anything.

and yes, a set of 39's will accelerate slower and top end more if the engine can pull them than a set of 37's, thats how it works. You have to read between the lines with powerboat tests.

I rode in the OL at the boat show last year with 4 people and a half tank at 107.

Actualy YES they do weight the boats....

And i have rode in and actualy driven the Lavey 39evo with around a full tank (185 gal.) 6 people and i hit 101 mph on the rev limiters....

[Trim'd Up]

Yes 41...

The only difference in setup was the EVO ran 17 3/4x37" props and the SL ran 16 1/4x39" props. The EVO weighed 10,500lbs and the SL weighed 8000lbs.

EVO stats;
Time to plane 5.2sec
Zero-10sec 56mph
Zero-20sec 90mph
30-50 4.4sec
40-70 7.3sec
Top speed 110.4@5350

SL stats
Time to plane n/a
Zero-10sec 45mph
Zero-20sec 82mph
30-50 5.4sec
40-70 7.8sec
Top speed 115@5400


I wouldn't call that "outerlimits getting its ass handed to it". Most people aren't drag racing 40' boats so I don't see much importance in the acceleration numbers, especially when they are still close. The OL put 5 mph on the Lavey on top where it counts. This is a stupid discussion anyway, they had different sized props. I guess you could just throw some 30" props on the OL and it would REALLY hand it to the EVO in your eyes, even though it may only run 80mph.:lurk5:

[Salesmanship]

My magazine article is faster than your magazine article.

C'mon, run em side by side and then see who hands it to who.

[Big Time]

One question, why do they keep changing their models and lenghts???? I could see changing bottoms and designs but why is every new design a new model? Chevy, Ford, Toyota and most of the other mainstream manufacturers change the designs of their cars but rarely release new models. Every year or two there seems to be a new model which basically eliminates the one before. they had a 37' stilletto, 37' GTX, 39' ?, 41', 42' Legacy, 42 GTX, 43',, 44SL, 46', 47', 47' GTX, 51, 53SL...I'm sure I left out a few.

Don't get me wrong, I love their boats but why not stick with similar model names and lengths like the legacy's and GTX's why all these other lengths and model names? if you buy a boat two years later it's obsolete.

just my thoughts...don't mean to pee in any wheaties.

I can agree with you on that to a degree....but at the same time if you are not putting out new products then you are not out there trying to make a better product.

I would also speculate that OL does a lot of repeat business, so how do you get a guy that already has a OL to buy another one? You make a newer model! If the newer model has something more to offer then the previous, people are going to be more inclined to ante up for a new boat.

[JupiterSunsation]

The SL look/ ducktail boats are my favorite. They are always showstoppers at the big poker runs.

[offshore runner]

I honestly dont see whats so good about outerlimits....
Yes they do run fast and look cool, but looking at them close in person i have never seen one that had good fit and finish. And i dont understand the deal with all the bolt on billet pieces...

[MarylandMark]

:lurk5:

[Uncle Dave]

Yes its that fast.

The Lavey will a long way away from the OL by the time it gets up and out of its own way the way they propped it.

OL propped the rig for the "big number" on the test but the result was the boat was whooped pretty hard between 8-11MPH at every test point but the top end. There is more delta in the these measurements than the top end delta of 4.9 MPH.

Would the OL be quicker with a smaller prop and the Lavey faster with larger probably but the real story is- Net Net - that the 39EVO can more that hold its own against it competition and is capable of beating the worlds premier Marques.

LaveyCraft has done a fantastic job, they designed and built this boat themselves with no splashing, lifting, or copying anyone and its a winner.



Uncle Dave

[AIR TIME]

I wouldn't call that "outerlimits getting its ass handed to it". Most people aren't drag racing 40' boats so I don't see much importance in the acceleration numbers, especially when they are still close. The OL put 5 mph on the Lavey on top where it counts. This is a stupid discussion anyway, they had different sized props. I guess you could just throw some 30" props on the OL and it would REALLY hand it to the EVO in your eyes, even though it may only run 80mph.:lurk5:

:rofl::rofl::rofl: true

[Uncle Dave]

:rofl::rofl::rofl: true


Looks like the mighty OL has fallen to me.

Look at any engine printout from a merc computer and look at how much time is spent WOT- almost none.

the 39 evo works it like a red headed stepchild.



UD

[Uncle Dave]

I honestly dont see whats so good about outerlimits....
Yes they do run fast and look cool, but looking at them close in person i have never seen one that had good fit and finish. And i dont understand the deal with all the bolt on billet pieces...


The most significant differentiator for OL is.....

OL uses a highly sophisticated resin infusion/injection process for most if not all of its hulls.This process allows a thinner & lighter hull with equal strength of the thicker one.

In order of best to worst hull construction goes-

Resin infusion/injection
Vacuum Bagging
Hand layup

I have to give them all the credit they are due on this part.

UD

[Team Tsunami]

I honestly dont see whats so good about outerlimits....
Yes they do run fast and look cool, but looking at them close in person i have never seen one that had good fit and finish. And i dont understand the deal with all the bolt on billet pieces...

Have you seen a Sunsation!!?? Talk about bolt on's! No offsense...

[Team Tsunami]

Go run that OL and you probably wont be going back to your Lavey.

[stainless]

Have you seen a Sunsation!!?? Talk about bolt on's! No offsense...

Bolt On's ! I like Bolt on's ! :sifone: Oh you mean on a boat :26:

[Uncle Dave]

Bolt On's ! I like Bolt on's ! :sifone: Oh you mean on a boat :26:

Thats where I went as well.......


UD

[sy goldberg]

I just insured a 2010 52 today and this is owners third OL so I guess that something is being done right in Rhode Island.

[Team Tsunami]

Wrong bolt on's Steve!!:D:D Haha

[Team Tsunami]

I just insured a 2010 52 today and this is owners third OL so I guess that something is being done right in Rhode Island.

They do some of the best up here!!

[DollaBill]

actually I've never been a big fan of OL's. Dom is great for sizzle but I'll stick with Absolute to get the job done, at a much more realistic price

[DollaBill]

I just insured a 2010 52 today and this is owners third OL so I guess that something is being done right in Rhode Island.

wtf? a 2010?? It's friggin MAY..... Mfg's crack me up

[JupiterSunsation]

wtf? a 2010?? It's friggin MAY..... Mfg's crack me up

There are still new 07 OL's around!

[phragle]

There are still new 07 OL's around!

true... but I see that as a phuck up by LCM, anybody with the coin to buy a new OL is going to have one built the way they want it, not buy one off the shelf. the off the shelf people will buy used cheaper. The 2 51's with trip. 700's are nice boats, but will continue collecting dust for awhile. Look at the red one, given the colors of the boat, you would think that they would have used a matching tan color on the interior instead of white..to me the white looks out of place... I'm not Martha Stewart, but for 3/4 of a mil. the colors could at least match..

[Bobcat]

true... I'm not Martha Stewart, but for 3/4 of a mil. the colors could at least match..

for 3/4 million you could be martha stewart (snip snip):sifone:

[DollaBill]

for 3/4 million you could be martha stewart (snip snip):sifone:

LOL, but true

[Pro1]

Go by a used 04 05 47 with 1075s for $275.

[JupiterSunsation]

Go by a used 04 05 47 with 1075s for $275.

That works as long as the owner bought the boat and it is not financed for 500K for 30 years! With the savings you could get the boat repainted to your own custom design and still have 400K in savings!

[Pro1]

2003 37 GTX on Pier 57 Merc 850s Number 6 for $230 on a trailer.

[Geronimo36]

Go by a used 04 05 47 with 1075s for $275.


That works as long as the owner bought the boat and it is not financed for 500K for 30 years! With the savings you could get the boat repainted to your own custom design and still have 400K in savings!


2003 37 GTX on Pier 57 Merc 850s Number 6 for $230 on a trailer.

Or just buy my friends 04' 100 mph Legacy with new 525's, interior, headers and everything else for the same or less than any of these boats... Owner owns the boat outright, no hassle with the bank....

Basically, you get a new boat for much cheaper than new without the hefty depreciation.:seeya:

[JupiterSunsation]

Basically, you get a new boat for much cheaper than new without the hefty depreciation.:seeya:

Actually a 6 year old boat with new power/interior.....:sifone:

[Geronimo36]

Actually a 6 year old boat with new power/interior.....:sifone:

BTW, it's 5 yrs. ;) What I'm suggesting is that everything in the boat is new and plastic basically lasts forever! :)

If you wanna buy an overpriced new boat that's going to depreciate 30-50% as you drive it off the lot, go ahead. Or, you could have this one that's already taken the hit and some piece of mind knowing everything has been replaced, rebuilt and updated to 08/09' standards!:sifone:

[phragle]

but dothe colors match??

[Geronimo36]

but dothe colors match??

Yessir!

[Pro1]

Frank your pals boat looks nice too!

Best of luck selling it.

[Uncle Dave]

Go by a used 04 05 47 with 1075s for $275.

That probably a better bet , but if you do so be prepared to shell out between 46 and 75K plus installation for a set of engine rebuilds.

This expense is usually not a "finance-able item" either -given its kind of hard to repossess a set of pistons and valve train blower snout etc.

Plus have your "new" boat out of service for X amount of time - while getting it done.

http://www.seriousoffshore.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3670&highlight=1075+rebuild

Ill bet a lot of used rigs with this (admittedly awesome) package are at or over rebuild time "for sale good price" uh huh sure.........

People serially neglect to budget the true cost of running packages like this.


UD

[Team Tsunami]

Outerlimits 52 SL!!:D

[phragle]

any more shots of it??

[MarylandMark]

wtf? a 2010?? It's friggin MAY..... Mfg's crack me up

2010 RV's were on dealer lots in March 09. Why bother with model years any more..

[Wrinkleface]

for 3/4 million you could be martha stewart (snip snip):sifone:

play nice Bobster!!!:boxing_smiley:

[DollaBill]

Outerlimits 52 SL!!:D

stern looks like it came out an MTI mold

[Tommy Gun]

2004 47 GTX w/removable canopy; 1075's...

http://www.performanceboatbrokerage.com/boat_detail.asp?boat_id=184

[JupiterSunsation]

BTW, it's 5 yrs. ;)


If the 2010's are out the boat is 6 model years old now.......your buddy does have a nice rig though...

[phragle]

for 3/4 million you could be martha stewart (snip snip):sifone:

your off it bit on the numbers Bob... for 34 million, I will wear a blonde wig, falsies, plant gerainiums and you can call me mertha all you want......