You knew it was coming...Obama Seeks Weapon ban!

[cigdaze]

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=6960824&page=1

[jmeng]

We all knew it was coming...

[boostbros]

good.... they never should be sold to the public period my opinion its like selling C4 at walmart same result

[Wardey]

good.... they never should be sold to the public period my opinion its like selling C4 at walmart same result

B.S. !!! An AR-15, AK-47, SKS, etc...etc... doesn't kill any more than a .22 cal rifle if you know how to shoot. So we should not sell muscle cars to the public ??? Only to racers??? Or maybe kitchen knives should only be 3" long if your not a chef !!! WTF:mad::mad::mad: Dave

[Slick02]

Just line up and hand them all of your guns and ammo like good little boys and girls now,,,,(NOT),,we are steadily heading towards socialism, whick is just a couple of steps above communisim, we are now going to have a government with there hand in banking, mortgages(real estate), the auto mfg.s. What next? It's not that I believe every family should own an assault weapon but by the same token, I personally believe that we are giving (they are taking) way to many of our liberties/rights to the government run by bleeding heart liberals......My rant for the day,,it just pizzes me off.

[jmeng]

FYI, looks like by closing the "gunshow loophole" they're going to try and make any private sale illegal.

[jmeng]

good.... they never should be sold to the public period my opinion its like selling C4 at walmart same result


Care to expand on that? Which weapons covered under the proposed ban do you believe should be illegal? In your opinion, what effect do you think that will have on crime in the US and Mexico?

[clayinaustin]

When it becomes a crime to own an assult weapon, then only the criminals will have them! :mad:

[ar15meister]

gun banners are the scum of the earth.

I hate the fun police.

[mosi]

Maybe Mexico should patrol and protect their borders a little more!!


Problem solved!!

[txriverrat2001]

good.... they never should be sold to the public period my opinion its like selling C4 at walmart same result


WTF?? So do you think the criminals won't get them either if this goes through??

I'm sure if you dug into it you would see the criminals get their guns off the streets - not from licensed dealers.

[Audiofn]

BUT BUT BUT he said that he would not seek new gun laws... Well I guess if you read into it more then he is just reinstating an old law. One that did not work the first time. All he is managing to do is drive up the cost of the inventory that is out there with these laws. Why do I feel that this is going to be the administration that will ruin this country. I did not think it was possible but look at all the mistakes that they have made in just 30+ days!!!! Slick02 is correct they are going to have thier unqualified mits in all kinds of businesses. Do you really think that they will sell off the stocks when they can turn a profit? Of course they will not.

[Trim'd Up]

The Anti-gunners have to be one of the most ignorant groups out there. Why do they think that a criminal is willing to rob someone, or shoot someone, but they are not going to break the law to obtain an illegal gun. Phunckin idiots! Oh and watch out for those "evil" assault rifles! The black color and folding stock sure make them extra deadly. :rolleyes:

[Wardey]

good.... they never should be sold to the public period my opinion its like selling C4 at walmart same result

Also...C4 is completely harmless....it's the detonating charge that makes it explode. And it can be made from household supplies. OK, no more fertilizers, etc...etc.. are available to the public. Do research before posting !!! :rant::rant::rant: Thanks for pissing me off on the start of the day.... :mad:Dave

[Wardey]

The Anti-gunners have to be one of the most ignorant groups out there. Why do they think that a criminal is willing to rob someone, or shoot someone, but they are not going to break the law to obtain an illegal gun. Phunckin idiots! Oh and watch out for those "evil" assault rifles! The black color and folding stock sure make them extra deadly. :rolleyes:

And they are the first to complain about cruel punishment to the azzhole that just killed a hard working mother and raped her daughter. :mad::mad::mad: I'm going to work.....Dave

[getchasum111]

good.... they never should be sold to the public period my opinion its like selling C4 at walmart same result

WOW.....I thought the people on this board were a bit more open minded....i guess we shouldn't have a 100mph boat either....or a loud boat....if you don't want to watch porn don't turn it on that channel but don't tell me i can't watch it....if you don't want an assault rifle don't buy one.....but don't tell me i can't have one....what are you going to save me from next....get a grip...

[Tony]

For those of you who havent already been following this, here are all the juicy details.

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h110-1022

[Ted]

Once again we have feel-good law that does NOTHING but make the writer look like they are doing something. And once again it will be a start down a slippery slope. Ask the people in England how far it can go and how fast. Then ask them how much safer they are. Ask the average person on Chicago, New York, and Washington DC how safe their cities are with gun bans in place.

[straightpriority]

soo all criminals will still have guns and us law abiding citizens will be helpless .... nice. because most crimes involving guns are from registered gun holders and people with permits rite. how dumb can we get!

[Sea-Dated]

good.... they never should be sold to the public period my opinion its like selling C4 at walmart same result

At least we know one more that votted for Hussein.........

:banghead:

[rbhudelson]

B.S. !!! An AR-15, AK-47, SKS, etc...etc... doesn't kill any more than a .22 cal rifle if you know how to shoot. So we should not sell muscle cars to the public ??? Only to racers??? Or maybe kitchen knives should only be 3" long if your not a chef !!! WTF:mad::mad::mad: Dave

Uh, I probably wouldn't use that argument. That is precisely why they want to ban them. You don't have to be an expert to cause a lot of damage with an assault weapon.

And before anyone starts I own one that Clinton banned by name.

[insanity]

good.... they never should be sold to the public period my opinion its like selling C4 at walmart same result

Ban him, ban him now.

Buy them up boys, get them while you can with as many rounds as you can find.

[03darkshadow]

Also...C4 is completely harmless....it's the detonating charge that makes it explode. And it can be made from household supplies. OK, no more fertilizers, etc...etc.. are available to the public. Do research before posting !!! :rant::rant::rant: Thanks for pissing me off on the start of the day.... :mad:Dave



yea man, you can light C4 on fire. :sifone:

[phragle]

just don't step on it while it' burning. And they will only get banned because of there cost, anyone can get an sks for $175 and an aak variant for $350 they are affordable by all. But if an SKS cost $20,000 only people with decent incomes could afford one, then it could never be banned, but there would be mandatory registration and 20% gun value tax due every year.

[Tony]

just don't step on it while it' burning. And they will only get banned because of there cost, anyone can get an sks for $175 and an aak variant for $350 they are affordable by all. .

You havent looked at gun prices since November have you?:(

[Audiofn]

Uh, I probably wouldn't use that argument. That is precisely why they want to ban them. You don't have to be an expert to cause a lot of damage with an assault weapon.

And before anyone starts I own one that Clinton banned by name.

I agree. There is no doubt that they have the potential to do a lot more damage then a .22. Then again so does a shot gun. I think that the first argument has to be that law abiding, licensed, people use them correctly (that is the hope anyhow). I do wish that every state would implament a licensing law to make it at leaste a little harder to get them into the "wrong" hands. They (assault riffles) have been banned in Mass. for a while (along with many other guns) even after the federal law expired. There are "mass complient" versions that have the stock "pinned" and you can not have flash supresion........ Bunch of odd duck laws. So you can still have them I guess just have to "modify" them. What sucks for me is that even with what I have it is getting more and more expensive to shoot. I used to go to the range and blow through 1000 or more rounds a day. Now I keep it a lot less. I hope he only gets 4 years to ruin this country!!!!

[Chris]

I checked- it doesn't specify which ones...




A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.



I'm not trying to take any of yours away from you, why do you want to take mine from me?



Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances



And where's the ACLU at on this? Wouldn't they be more aptly named the AOTCLWWYTHU?

The American Only The Civil Liberties We Want You To Have Union

[boostbros]

i thought that would ruffle feathers but in reality i have a Friend that had assault rifles i think a few were Russian while on vacation house was broken into all guns and safe stolen because of the nature of the guns he was under the microscope(FBI and ATF) and sweating for a while.... they were recovered in another state after a kid took one to school to shoot it up but chickened out i guess if that had happened my buddy would never have recovered from the guilt even though it was not his fault he went from brown hair to gray in 6 months....owning one of these carries a lot of responsibility ....now his kid thats outa control chases my dog with a hachet while he tell me he just likes to destroy and kill things don,t worry the dog is faster than he is.....wtf i am glad they did not return his guns

[Audiofn]

i thought that would ruffle feathers but in reality i have a Friend that had assault rifles i think a few were Russian while on vacation house was broken into all guns and safe stolen because of the nature of the guns he was under the microscope(FBI and ATF) and sweating for a while.... they were recovered in another state after a kid took one to school to shoot it up but chickened out i guess if that had happened my buddy would never have recovered from the guilt even though it was not his fault he went from brown hair to gray in 6 months....owning one of these carries a lot of responsibility ....now his kid thats outa control chases my dog with a hachet while he tell me he just likes to destroy and kill things don,t worry the dog is faster than he is.....wtf i am glad they did not return his guns

With all due respec it sounds like your friend had not business owning a gun and needs to learn to parent better.

My safe is bolted in with blind bolts on top of the fact that it is heavy as chit and has alarms hooked up to it. Not saying that it would be impossible to do but not likely that it gets taken.

[nortech4play]

Some interesting quotes from Thomas Jefferson;

My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government.
Thomas Jefferson

No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms.
Thomas Jefferson

The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.
Thomas Jefferson

[nortech4play]

I hope he only gets 4 years to ruin this country!!!!

At this rate he'll have it done in the first 100 days!

[Tony]

i thought that would ruffle feathers but in reality i have a Friend that had assault rifles i think a few were Russian while on vacation house was broken into all guns and safe stolen because of the nature of the guns he was under the microscope(FBI and ATF) and sweating for a while.... they were recovered in another state after a kid took one to school to shoot it up but chickened out i guess if that had happened my buddy would never have recovered from the guilt even though it was not his fault he went from brown hair to gray in 6 months....owning one of these carries a lot of responsibility ....now his kid thats outa control chases my dog with a hachet while he tell me he just likes to destroy and kill things don,t worry the dog is faster than he is.....wtf i am glad they did not return his guns

Please dont let one bad personal experience form your overall opinion. It sucks that your friend had to go through that but I bet with a little thought and a good safe the whole scenario could have been prevented, and the situation that you described could have happened with any type of firearm not just something coined an "assault weapon". It blows my mind the amount of gun owners who dont buy a safe until they get some firearms stolen.

[VtSteve]

Most cops are pretty happy about it, and would like the rules to be tightened beyond their former fluff status. They are heroes.

[Tony]

Most cops are pretty happy about it, and would like the rules to be tightened beyond their former fluff status. They are heroes.

Please elaborate.:)

[boostbros]

audiofn i agree he was not qualified or capable of owning these guns but apparently they are very easy to obtain i know getting Russian caliber bullets was costly he was obsessed with making them fire faster. having a range own a bunch of these would be OK pay to rent and blast away but sticking one in the closet is just trouble waiting to happen....i am in the process of getting rid of my fathers pistol collection(he died in dec) as i have no interest they are just a liability rifles are going too will keep a few heirlooms and my favorite 410. even our small upstate town has changed the bro's and pr and mexican have filled in where good folks left after the industry's left our local high school was locked down after a gang fight look at the news not one but 2 10 year olds shot parents or pregnant girl friend what is going on with kids today?

[phragle]

Some interesting quotes from Thomas Jefferson;

My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government.
Thomas Jefferson

No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms.
Thomas Jefferson

The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.
Thomas Jefferson



Is this not justification enough for the personal ownership of assault weapons?? the comming revolution will not go well if we are armed with spitballs and straws.

[boostbros]

if anyone truly collects these there is an auction close to here and you can put bids in over the phone i will probaly go just to see what they bring........http://www.brzostek.com/cgi-bin/htmlos.cgi/00932.1.862980713494037412