The Official 2009 Daytona 500 Thread

[MacGyver]

The long wait is finally over :26:

Heres the lineup:

1 1 Martin Truex Jr. Chevrolet Bass Pro Shops / Tracker 188.001 47.872 Leader
2 5 Mark Martin Chevrolet Kellogg's / Carquest 187.817 47.919 -0.047
3 24 Jeff Gordon Chevrolet DuPont - - -
4 18 Kyle Busch Toyota M&M's - - -
5 14 Tony Stewart Chevrolet Office Depot / Old Spice - - -
6 83 Brian Vickers Toyota Red Bull - - -
7 48 Jimmie Johnson Chevrolet Lowe's - - -
8 42 Juan Montoya Chevrolet Target - - -
9 20 Joey Logano* Toyota The Home Depot - - -
10 11 Denny Hamlin Toyota FedEx Express - - -
11 8 Aric Almirola Chevrolet Guitar Hero - - -
12 96 Bobby Labonte Ford Ask.com - - -
13 2 Kurt Busch Dodge Miller Lite - - -
14 88 Dale Earnhardt Jr. Chevrolet Amp Energy / National Guard - - -
15 9 Kasey Kahne Dodge Budweiser - - -
16 99 Carl Edwards Ford Aflac - - -
17 36 Scott Riggs Toyota Tommy Baldwin Racing - - -
18 41 Jeremy Mayfield Toyota All Sport - - -
19 98 Paul Menard Ford Quaker State / Menards - - -
20 44 A.J. Allmendinger Dodge Valvoline - - -
21 26 Jamie McMurray Ford Crown Royal - - -
22 33 Clint Bowyer Chevrolet Cheerios / Hamburger Helper - - -
23 47 Marcos Ambrose Toyota Little Debbie / Kingsford / Clorox - - -
24 12 David Stremme Dodge Penske Racing - - -
25 07 Casey Mears Chevrolet Jack Daniel's - - -
26 31 Jeff Burton Chevrolet Caterpillar - - -
27 55 Michael Waltrip Toyota NAPA - - -
28 00 David Reutimann Toyota Aaron's Dream Machine - - -
29 77 Sam Hornish Jr. Dodge Mobil 1 - - -
30 19 Elliott Sadler Dodge Stanley - - -
31 7 Robby Gordon Toyota Jim Beam - - -
32 29 Kevin Harvick Chevrolet Shell / Pennzoil - - -
33 6 David Ragan Ford UPS - - -
34 43 Reed Sorenson Dodge McDonald's - - -
35 16 Greg Biffle Ford 3M - - -
36 39 Ryan Newman Chevrolet U.S. Army - - -
37 34 John Andretti Chevrolet Window World - - -
38 82 Scott Speed* Toyota Red Bull - - -
39 17 Matt Kenseth Ford Dewalt - - -
40 21 Bill Elliott Ford Motorcraft - - -
41 28 Travis Kvapil Ford Golden Corral - - -
42 78 Regan Smith Chevrolet Furniture Row Racing - - -
43 66 Terry Labonte Toyota Window World

[Buoy]

I'm really surprised Jim didn't start this thread.

[MOBILEMERCMAN]

I'm really surprised Jim didn't start this thread.

Good Call. I did mention something about it last week.

It is better than New Years for me.

[MOBILEMERCMAN]

The cool thing about Daytona is just about everyone has a chance to win. Not just the fastest or best funded team. There are so many variables, many of which no one has any control over. So you prepare the best you can, get up, say a prayer, and go racing.

[Buoy]

I followed NASCAR for awhile in the early to mid 90's, but kind of lost interest.
I was always a Terry Labonte fan (starting last in the field this year), or I also liked the Burton brothers - just because I couldn't figure out how they grew up together, and Jeff could speak clearly, and you could barely understand what the hell Ward was trying to say.

[MacGyver]

I'm really surprised Jim didn't start this thread.

I just beat him to it :26:

I think I was a Daytona 500 thread starter on OSO too ;)

[MacGyver]

and Jeff could speak clearly, and you could barely understand what the hell Ward was trying to say.

Ward always sounded like he had a mouth full of marbles.

[MOBILEMERCMAN]

Ward always sounded like he had a mouth full of marbles.

That's is the exact same description I have used for people I know from Fountain. That deep south accent. Funny thing is the deepest south accent is found in eastern North Carolina.

[Buoy]

I just beat him to it :26:

I think I was a Daytona 500 thread starter on OSO too ;)

You can pick up your trophy from Apu at the carryout:26:

[Buoy]

Ward always sounded like he had a mouth full of marbles.

But Jeff did a pretty good PR thing for Exide.
Must have had bedrooms at the opposite sides of the house.:biggrinjester:

[MOBILEMERCMAN]

I like Jeff Burton too. He could win on Sunday. He has had some strong years lately. I would like to see him do well.

[JupiterSunsation]

"Funny never understood the Nascar thing, you know shiny cars driving in circles.......until I met the fans............." Alonzo Boden, Last Comic Standing.

I have a 3 story townhouse on the beach 15 miles north of the track and we avoid going there that weekend (among others).

[MOBILEMERCMAN]

"Funny never understood the Nascar thing, you know shiny cars driving in circles.......until I met the fans............." Alonzo Boden, Last Comic Standing.

I have a 3 story townhouse on the beach 15 miles north of the track and we avoid going there that weekend (among others).

Have you ever rented it out for a race weekend?

[seebeagle]

Go Ford Go!!!

[Blue Oval]

Go Ford Go!!!

Glad to see some Ford fans.

[MacGyver]

Glad to see some Ford fans.

At least he didn't say Toyota :26:

[MacGyver]

Have you ever rented it out for a race weekend?

Me, Jim, Bill and RaceGirl will be there next year :26:


You could make some serious coin renting it out for race weekends.



.

[Racegirl3]

Me, Jim, Bill and RaceGirl will be there next year :26:


You could make some serious coin renting it out for race weekends.



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Sounds good to me :)

[Davidmnc]

Me, Jim, Bill and RaceGirl will be there next year :26:


You could make some serious coin renting it out for race weekends.



.

I want to come!!!!!!!!!!! :03::03:

[Davidmnc]

That's is the exact same description I have used for people I know from Fountain. That deep south accent. Funny thing is the deepest south accent is found in eastern North Carolina.

:boxing_smiley::boxing_smiley::boxing_smiley::boxing_smiley: Watch it there buster! :boxing_smiley::boxing_smiley::boxing_smiley:

[Davidmnc]

24 to the front baby!!!!!!!!

[MacGyver]

24 to the front baby!!!!!!!!

Exactly

[MOBILEMERCMAN]

Me, Jim, Bill and RaceGirl will be there next year :26:


You could make some serious coin renting it out for race weekends.



.

Me Jim? I hope that's who you mean

[MOBILEMERCMAN]

:boxing_smiley::boxing_smiley::boxing_smiley::boxing_smiley: Watch it there buster! :boxing_smiley::boxing_smiley::boxing_smiley:

It took me a while to understand Joey and some others.

[MOBILEMERCMAN]

Glad to see some Ford fans.

My old favorite Ford driver is now in a Chevy, Rocket. IO have always liked Greg Biffle too.

[JupiterSunsation]

Have you ever rented it out for a race weekend?

Never rented it out ever......it is my 2nd home.

[MOBILEMERCMAN]

Never rented it out ever......it is my 2nd home.

I figured it could not hurt to ask. I'm not sure I could rent out my beach house if I had one either.

[Blue Oval]

At least he didn't say Toyota :26:

cheering for a Toyota would be like cheering for Kyle Busch.

[Davidmnc]

cheering for a Toyota would be like cheering for Kyle Busch.

Don't say the Kyle word!!!!!!!! :boxing_smiley:

[Blue Oval]

I would rather get caught on a sailboat then use that word again.

[MOBILEMERCMAN]

Don't say the Kyle word!!!!!!!! :boxing_smiley:


I would rather get caught on a sailboat then use that word again.

:ack2:

Nobody dislikes K Baby more than me

[Davidmnc]

I am a true Jeff Gordon fan, but there would be nothing sweeter than to see Mark Martin win the Daytona 500 in a Hendrick car. Jack Roush's cup program would not be where it is today with out Mark.

[MOBILEMERCMAN]

I would be nice to see the experienced guys kick the ids as$es. All of them. I can't believe Gibbs Hired Joey. He looks like he is 16. And talks like it too.

Its wrong all wrong

[Blue Oval]

Me and my wife are still both Mark Martin fans,I liked Dale Jarrett also,I'am glad he found his rocking chair.Mark can still race.

[MacGyver]

cheering for a Toyota would be like cheering for Kyle Busch.

Not gonna happen :cuss:

[MOBILEMERCMAN]

I used to cheer for my faves. Now I cheer against K Babe.

He tried to move Tony out of first for the win and ended up in fourth. I wish he had crashed. I don't usually wish ill on people, but he is the exception.

Congrats Tony for a Chevy win.

[Blue Oval]

If you want some fun reading you can go to www.kylebuschsucks.net, maybe you might have a post for them.

[MOBILEMERCMAN]

Good find. I will read thru it later

[MOBILEMERCMAN]

K Baby right back to his old ways. He left his car in the grass and stormed off to the hauler. I guess once a cry baby always a cry baby.
I can't wait till someone puts him in the wall.

[MacGyver]

Crap. The weather forecast for tomorrow doesn't look good for the 500.

[rainmn]

I'm not a Nascar fan, but it's cool to see Truex on the pole - he's from the town I live in.

We actually have a Martin Truex Jr. Blvd.

[Edward R. Cozzi]

:ack2:

Nobody dislikes K Baby more than me

...or me!

[seebeagle]

There's no K-Baby like a DNF K-Baby

[MacGyver]

Tick, tick, tick.......The clock is ticking

[MacGyver]

13 hours, 46 minutes baby!!!!!!!!!!

[MacGyver]

The big day has arrived!!!:party:



Heres a few things I hope for today:

[MacGyver]

Lets hope for a clean race

[MacGyver]

Good weather

[MacGyver]

No "the big one" (but Kyle can wreck himself)

[MacGyver]

A Jeff Gordon win

[MacGyver]

And if not Gordon, at least a Chevy

[MacGyver]

No fuel millage BS

[MacGyver]

And no green/white/checkers finish

[Blue Oval]

If it's not a Ford winning,I'll be ok with a Chevy winning.

[MacGyver]

Looks like the weather might not cooperate today

[MacGyver]

Cloudy with a chance of showers going into the evening.

[MacGyver]

Sounds like Tony's not too happy with Goodyear again.

"It's the same stuff that we always talk about every year -- the failures that Goodyear has."

[MacGyver]

Pre-race just getting started. :26:

[MacGyver]

Its gonna be weird having Smoke and Zippi not on the same team

[MarylandMark]

whoring this thread 2 i see

[MacGyver]

whoring this thread 2 i see

I'm the author so I'm obligated :)

[MacGyver]

↑ Another top dog

[MarylandMark]

i c

[MacGyver]

Anticipation..........

[MacGyver]

FOX has 40 TV cameras covering the race

[MacGyver]

Must be nuts in the production trailer

[MOBILEMERCMAN]

I want to see Ryan Newman or Mark Martin win in their Chevy. Heck there are another 1/2 dozen I would like to see. Biffle, Jr, Harvick, J Burton, ? Anyone but the Toyotas

[Racegirl3]

Its gonna be weird having Smoke and Zippi not on the same team

I was having that issue yesterday ......

[MacGyver]

This pre-race show sucks so far...

[MOBILEMERCMAN]

This pre-race show sucks so far...

That is why I am still posting

[MacGyver]

Oh oh, I just saw rain on the camera lens

[MOBILEMERCMAN]

Oh oh, I just saw rain on the camera lens

Say it is not so

[MacGyver]

NO rain delay please.

[MacGyver]

We had to wait out 4 or 5 hour rain delay when I went to the Brickyard.

That sucked azz.

[MOBILEMERCMAN]

We had to wait out 4 or 5 hour rain delay when I went to the Brickyard.

That sucked azz.

So will it be OK to blame the rain delay on you?

[MacGyver]

So will it be OK to blame the rain delay on you?

No way Mr. 6700 posts :sifone:

[MOBILEMERCMAN]

No way Mr. 6700 posts :sifone:

I didn't notice thanks....I can't be my fault though. Who will we blame it on Rain Man ?

[MOBILEMERCMAN]

Big gamble for Tony Stewart? says the newscasters. He could not get out of that Toyota fast enough.

[MacGyver]

Blame Wrink. He left Florida and the rain moved in :)

[MacGyver]

I wonder how Home Depot feels not having Smoke on board

[MacGyver]

Joey = first wreck

[MacGyver]

↑ Top Dog

[MacGyver]

Wow. Mark Martin is looking old

[MarylandMark]

he is old

[MacGyver]

I like the NAPA commercials

[MacGyver]

Especially the ones where Michael Waltrip pokes fun at himself.

[Davidmnc]

Especially the ones where Michael Waltrip pokes fun at himself.

He has to...............he has nothing else to work with but humor

[MacGyver]

My prayer for today:

Dear God, Please make them sing todays national anthem as it was written and Kyle blow up on lap one :)

Amen

[Davidmnc]

My prayer for today:

Dear God, Please make them sing todays national anthem as it was written and Kyle blow up on lap one :)

Amen

:iagree::iagree::iagree:

[MacGyver]

They said the K work

[Davidmnc]

They said the K work

But is WAS said in vain!:26:

[MacGyver]

Is he drunk??

[MacGyver]

I can sing better then that :ack2:

[cosmic12]

I would really like to see Jr, win But if Mark M gets there I couldn't be happier, Here we go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!09

[Racegirl3]

Joey = first wreck



Nah ... the kid is pretty cool. Wish he was driving for a Chevy team :blush5:

[MacGyver]

Boogitty, boogitty, boogitty, Lets go racing boyzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[MacGyver]

I would really like to see Jr, win But if Mark M gets there I couldn't be happier, Here we go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!09

MM is my sentimental favorite to win.

[MacGyver]

These commercials are pretty good so far

[03darkshadow]

you were talking about me Bill, right? cuz im down.

[JJ Apache]

Boogitty, boogitty, boogitty, Lets go racing boyzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Too funny!, the movie Cars is on later. Don't look at the front of cars the same since that movie. Honeys car has a happy lil' face! lmao! :biggrinjester:

[MacGyver]

cuz im down.


:huh:

[MacGyver]

↑ Top Dog

[MacGyver]

Jr. to the point

[MacGyver]

Smoke to the point

[MacGyver]

Jr. missed his pit :eek:

Thats gonna kill his shot at a victory.

[03darkshadow]

:huh:


to go to the 500 next year dude

[MacGyver]

Winning Races 1-2-3

priceless

[MacGyver]

to go to the 500 next year dude

Now we need to get the keys from JupiterSunsation to his town house and we're all set

[MacGyver]

Gordon to the point :party:

[03darkshadow]

nah, we'll get our own place, we dont need him

[Ratickle]

Jr. missed his pit :eek:

Thats gonna kill his shot at a victory.

He'll be back up front.

[MacGyver]

Joey hit that wall hard

[MacGyver]

nah, we'll get our own place, we dont need him

I'm up for it. Could get a SO crew going.

[MOBILEMERCMAN]

He'll be back up front.

If rain doesn't shorten it

[MacGyver]

Joey is 18 years old racing a cup car. What were you doing when you were 18.

Lucky bastard.

[MacGyver]

If rain doesn't shorten it

I hope not. :boxing_smiley:

[MOBILEMERCMAN]

Joey is 18 years old racing a cup car. What were you doing when you were 18.

Lucky bastard.

I don't think he feels lucky this week. Well he survived the wall a couple times.

[MacGyver]

Doesn't look good.

18464

[MacGyver]

Driver Check. Who are you pulling for?

Me: Gordon.

[Ratickle]

Doesn't look good.

18464

Crap

[Ratickle]

Driver Check. Who are you pulling for?

Me: Gordon.

Any Chevy but:):):)

[03darkshadow]

I'm up for it. Could get a SO crew going.




that would be awesome. have a ho gathering with alcohol present. byob though :26:

[03darkshadow]

btw, i like carl edwards or kenseth

[MOBILEMERCMAN]

Any Chevy but:):):)

I'll agree with that

[MacGyver]

Any Chevy but:):):)

:boxing_smiley:

[MacGyver]

David, bail me out

[MOBILEMERCMAN]

:boxing_smiley:

Better put a helmet on.. An as$ whoppin' is coming

[MacGyver]

Better put a helmet on.. An as$ whoppin' is coming

Oh ohhhhhh. And you can say ass here.

[Ratickle]

:boxing_smiley:

On the road.....:sifone:

[Ratickle]

Better put a helmet on.. An as$ whoppin' is coming

Like a bug on a window.......

[MacGyver]

On the road.....:sifone:


Awesome. Where do you find these.

[Ratickle]

Awesome. Where do you find these.

Jr's on his azz......:26:

[Ratickle]

Not anymore:26::26:

[MarylandMark]

gordon likes guys on his ass

[Ratickle]

gordon likes guys on his ass

The smilie I'd put in if this was in the Bad Boys..........

[MacGyver]

gordon likes guys on his ass

That means he's leading then:26:

[MacGyver]

Another pit error by Jr.

[Ratickle]

Crap, Jr screwed up again in the pits.

[MacGyver]

One lap penalty is gonna really hurt

[MacGyver]

Thats so unlike Jr :huh:

[MacGyver]

Bammmmmmm

[MacGyver]

↑ Top Dog

[Ratickle]

Barely touching the line.....

[MacGyver]

C'mon, he was on the line by a inch, if that

[MacGyver]

damn, the big wreck

[Ratickle]

Smash and crash....

[MacGyver]

Vickers won't have too many friends

[MacGyver]

But hey, KB is JUNK

[MacGyver]

Now they are blaming Jr. :huh:

[MacGyver]

He didn't throw the block.

[Ratickle]

Root cause analysis, the penalty on Jr put a real fast car behind an idiot who wanted to block him......

[Davidmnc]

Jr is at fault.............but KB is out!!!! :26::26::26::26:

[Racegirl3]

Earlier when you said Joey would cause the first crash, I almost said it would be Vickers .... I was close.... he was involved anyway.

Im not sure but I think this is Jrs first race .... I know he has the flu but come on. Not a good way to start the year.... altho .... he did come from back to front a few times. Thats always interesting to watch :D

[Ratickle]

On a different note, they are way overdoing Digger. Are most viewers little kids?

[Davidmnc]

On a different note, they are way overdoing Digger. Are most viewers little kids?

Yep

[cosmic12]

I gotta say Jr is beyound frustrated, NOW!!! lets see what happens now that he has his lap back. Hes going to get real nasty.

[MacGyver]

Earlier when you said Joey would cause the first crash, I almost said it would be Vickers .... I was close.... he was involved anyway.

Im not sure but I think this is Jrs first race .... I know he has the flu but come on. Not a good way to start the year.... altho .... he did come from back to front a few times. Thats always interesting to watch :D

Jr. definitely isn't having a good day.

[MacGyver]

Uggggg. Rain almost at the track

[Davidmnc]

I gotta say Jr is beyound frustrated, NOW!!! lets see what happens now that he has his lap back. Hes going to get real nasty.

And all the Hendrick cars are together on the track. I like the odds

[03darkshadow]

Jr. is a bitc* he should have let off and slid in behind Vickers and it would have been good.

[Davidmnc]

Go Jeff Go!!!!!!!!!!!!! 24 Baby!!!

[Davidmnc]

Jr. is a bitc* he should have let off and slid in behind Vickers and it would have been good.

I agree.......not a Jr fan, but a Hendrick fan! GO JEFF GO!!!! 24

[MacGyver]

Bail me out David. The 24 haters are here :willy_nilly:

[03darkshadow]

I agree.......not a Jr fan, but a Hendrick fan! GO JEFF GO!!!! 24



despite everyone around here i like Gordon. and no one can argue Jimmy J is a good driver along with knauss being his crew chief. but im more of a rausch fenway fan. go ford

[Davidmnc]

despite everyone around here i like Gordon. and no one can argue Jimmy J is a good driver along with knauss being his crew chief. but im more of a rausch fenway fan. go ford

Jack Roush is a legend......I respect every thing he has done for the sport. But Mark Martin put him on the NASCAR map, and he didn't appreciat it. Now Mark has an oppertunity to drive great stuff, and show he is one of the best there ever was.

[MacGyver]

I see rain :(

[JJ Apache]

Jimmy Johnson!

[03darkshadow]

Jack Roush is a legend......I respect every thing he has done for the sport. But Mark Martin put him on the NASCAR map, and he didn't appreciat it. Now Mark has an oppertunity to drive great stuff, and show he is one of the best there ever was.



Martin is too old. Carl Edwards is taking over for the dominant roush car.

[MacGyver]

OK I hate Toyota, but that commercial was good

[Davidmnc]

Rain Rain go away.............come back another day!

[Davidmnc]

Go Gordon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Ratickle]

Think they'll call it.

[MOBILEMERCMAN]

It was Jrs best move, but according to Vickers Jr Bumped him twice. Vickers must have been pretty slow or let off to get tagged twice in a second. You can hold back a faster car for long. This time not at all.

It was a Toyota sweeping moment.

It would be nice to see a Petty Car win after all this.

[Davidmnc]

Think they'll call it.

I hope not..............If they give it to whiney ass Mat Kenisith I'll be pissed :boxing_smiley:

[MOBILEMERCMAN]

Martin is too old. Carl Edwards is taking over for the dominant roush car.

He has still got it. I would pick Martin over some snot nose kid any day.

[Davidmnc]

It was Jrs best move, but according to Vickers Jr Bumped him twice. Vickers must have been pretty slow or let off to get tagged twice in a second. You can hold back a faster car for long. This time not at all.

It was a Toyota sweeping moment.

It would be nice to see a Petty Car win after all this.

Even though there not REALLY Petty cars any more............only by name:(

[Ratickle]

I hope not..............If they give it to whiney ass Mat Kenisith I'll be pissed :boxing_smiley:

Me too....

[Ratickle]

It was Jrs best move, You can hold back a faster car for long. This time not at all.

He should have not blocked like a dumbass when the passing car's got him by 10mph on the run-up.....

[MacGyver]

Kenseth is from Wisconsin so I pull for him too.

[MacGyver]

Even though he drives a Ford :ack2:

[Ratickle]

Kenseth is from Wisconsin so I pull for him too.

Okay, double trouble:sifone: now.....

[MacGyver]

Bammmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[ChiefApache]

How many laps left? Rain looks like it's going to be around a while.

[MacGyver]

Crap missed

[Ratickle]

Bammmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Ha, missed just like your main driver.:26:

[Ratickle]

how many laps left? Rain looks like it's going to be around a while.

48

[Davidmnc]

It's over................I don't like that ****er!

[MOBILEMERCMAN]

Its over

[MacGyver]

It's officially over. Kenseth wins.

[Ratickle]

Its over

:(:(:(

[MOBILEMERCMAN]

Anybody could have won. Its just the way it goes.

[MacGyver]

No race should end under rain delay.

[Davidmnc]

Anybody could have won. Its just the way it goes.

Yep :(

[MOBILEMERCMAN]

Matt is OK. He races hard and smart.

[MacGyver]

Especially at a track with lights

[Davidmnc]

No race should end under rain delay.

I agree

[MOBILEMERCMAN]

No race should end under rain delay.

What can you do come back tomorrow?

No

[Davidmnc]

Well......it's on to Cali!

[Davidmnc]

What can you do come back tomorrow?

No

They have lights!! And it's the Daytona 500.

[03darkshadow]

awesome, a ford won.

[cosmic12]

This sucks!!!!!

[MOBILEMERCMAN]

So The new kid crashes out. Brian Vickers learned not to cut off a faster car. K baby got some karma pay back, Gordon can't run so much camber. Goodyear needs to build a better tire. should one inch cost you a lap on pit road. Maybe some instant replay is in order.

[MacGyver]

What can you do come back tomorrow?

No

As I said previously, I waited out a 4 hour+ rain delay at the Brickyard. And they raced to the finish.

[MOBILEMERCMAN]

They have lights!! And it's the Daytona 500.

They could have waited a little bit.

[MOBILEMERCMAN]

As I said previously, I waited out a 4 hour+ rain delay at the Brickyard. And they raced to the finish.

I agree it was called to quick today.

[Davidmnc]

awesome, a ford won.

For you Ford guys!!

1849318493184931849318493

[MacGyver]

So The new kid crashes out. Brian Vickers learned not to cut off a faster car. K baby got some karma pay back, Gordon can't run so much camber. Goodyear needs to build a better tire. should one inch cost you a lap on pit road. Maybe some instant replay is in order.

I bet NASCAR will review that one.

[03darkshadow]

For you Ford guys!!

1849318493184931849318493



go ford.

[Blue Oval]

All right Ford!Cheap way to get it,but it counts.

[Davidmnc]

I bet NASCAR will review that one.

They should, but those officials have to make disitions on the spot. There is no room for instant replay in NASCAR. He made the call. It's part of the sport.

[MacGyver]

go ford.

Ma Nature was on Fords side tonight

[Tommy Gun]

sad part is if he was on the line they could haved moved the car (inside the line) prior to working on it without penalty...

[MOBILEMERCMAN]

sad part is if he was on the line they could haved moved the car (inside the line) prior to working on it without penalty...

I think it was a judgment call. They tire changer looks down and sees the line. In his mind he was good. The jack man pushes the official out of the way. that didn't help. When the official was pointing the tire was off already.

[MacGyver]

They should, but those officials have to make disitions on the spot. There is no room for instant replay in NASCAR. He made the call. It's part of the sport.


I'm not so sure. NFL officials have to make quick decisions also, just like NASCAR officials. I've seen bad calls by NASCAR that have taken the penalized driver out of any chance of winning.

[Racegirl3]

sad part is if he was on the line they could haved moved the car (inside the line) prior to working on it without penalty...


Exactly. I think the crew guy that ignored the official tryin to tell him to move it, needs smacked upside the head. Crew chief and Jr could see it from where they were :ack2:


Matts ok. Big Metallica fan. Coulda been worse :blush5:

[MacGyver]

Metallica rocks :)

[MOBILEMERCMAN]

The tire guy s focused on the tire. he isn't looking around

[MOBILEMERCMAN]

Metallica rocks :)

Yep, especially when you pissed at something

[03darkshadow]

Ma Nature was on Fords side tonight



yeah. it was a chitty win, but a win.

[03darkshadow]

When do daytona tickets go on sale, does anyone know?

[Davidmnc]

When do daytona tickets go on sale, does anyone know?

I think they will start selling them by July race

[03darkshadow]

i was told you have to buy them years in advance which doesnt make sense. but i wanna go.

[MOBILEMERCMAN]

http://www.sportstravel.com/nascar/daytona-500.php

[03darkshadow]

im just worried about the tickets. i dont want to do one of those stupid packages.

[Davidmnc]

im just worried about the tickets. i dont want to do one of those stupid packages.

You should have no problems getting tickets to the 500 next year. If you want good seats you may have to go threw a service.

[MOBILEMERCMAN]

Just look around a little. I have searched other tracks. You can usually pick your seats. There may be some virtual view tools to use.. I expect the high end and some premium stuff is sold years in advance but not all.

[03darkshadow]

You should have no problems getting tickets to the 500 next year. If you want good seats you may have to go threw a service.



hmm.. i will look around.

[Davidmnc]

hmm.. i will look around.

It's a really big track. Get as high up as you can! (but you already know that)

[MOBILEMERCMAN]

I would want to be across from pit row. But I am sure that is a popular choice. A friend of mine goes to Richmond every year. He likes being low near the exit of a turn. So you smell the cars and get hit with rubber.

[03darkshadow]

I would want to be across from pit row. But I am sure that is a popular choice. A friend of mine goes to Richmond every year. He likes being low near the exit of a turn. So you smell the cars and get hit with rubber.



we were low and right past turn 4 on the front straight at dover and the rubber and smell was awesome.

[Davidmnc]

I would want to be across from pit row. But I am sure that is a popular choice. A friend of mine goes to Richmond every year. He likes being low near the exit of a turn. So you smell the cars and get hit with rubber.

But he can't see the whole track from there. Our fall Martinsville seats are on the 59th row just right of the start finish line. We can see every thing but the first few pit stalls. We ahve the same seats for the truck race too. I think Martinsville is the most bang for the buck for a cup race. Our tickets are one $100 a piece for both races.

[MOBILEMERCMAN]

I have another friend who bought a old RV and does the infield thing. That is more me I think. I like to walk around and check everything out between the races.

[Davidmnc]

I have another friend who bought a old RV and does the infield thing. That is more me I think. I like to walk around and check everything out between the races.

Martinsville does nto have infeild camping, or passes during the race for that matter. We camp in the track camp ground right next to the track. It's a 4 day none stop part. :26:

[nortech4play]

So The new kid crashes out. Brian Vickers learned not to cut off a faster car. K baby got some karma pay back, Gordon can't run so much camber. Goodyear needs to build a better tire. should one inch cost you a lap on pit road. Maybe some instant replay is in order.

I'll give you the new kid crashes but Vicker's wasn't the reason half of the fast cars were wrecked it was your boy "Ironhead Jr"... he lived up to his daddies moniker today...right or wrong they were both a lap down and fighting for the stupid "lucky dog" and "Jr" took him and most of the leading cars out and should have been set for at least "five" laps like they did to Lefler in the Nationwide race for something that was half as bad and only spun one car....

Jr. went way below the double yellow when he tagged Vickers the first time and when that didn't work he went on and hit him again to wreck a lot of good front running cars on the lead lap....you can say all you want but with the rules and the double yellow it doesn't matter how fast your going you should at least have the ability to control your car when attempting to pass....

[MOBILEMERCMAN]

They both made bad decisions.

And the outcome sucked. I agree.

It is easy to second guess and scrutinize things that happened in a fraction of a second.

[03darkshadow]

Martinsville does nto have infeild camping, or passes during the race for that matter. We camp in the track camp ground right next to the track. It's a 4 day none stop part. :26:


theres a campground behind dover and its a constant party from like thursday on. :26::26:

[nortech4play]

They both made bad decisions.

And the outcome sucked. I agree.

It is easy to second guess and scrutinize things that happened in a fraction of a second.

I might excuse the first hit on Vickers car but as "DW" just said on Speed turning up that abruptly into him the second time was a lack of judgement and caused the big one....seems he has the Nascar god's on his side but in my opinion should have been brought in and penalized for aggressive or rough driving...the car in front {Vickers) was on the same lap and has every right to drop down and protect his line on a restart....just because Jr. laid back and had a run doesn't give him the right to run over another car...

[MOBILEMERCMAN]

Racing is aggressive. It was a matter of inches or less. Your damned if you let off and your damned if you don't.

[MOBILEMERCMAN]

I might excuse the first hit on Vickers car but as "DW" just said on Speed turning up that abruptly into him the second time was a lack of judgement and caused the big one.

If Vickers car would run he wouldn't have been able to hit him a second time.

[nortech4play]

Racing is aggressive. It was a matter of inches or less. Your damned if you let off and your damned if you don't.


I'll have to remember that quote when my driver punt's your's out of the way and everyone's calling foul because he's a driver you don't like or driving different make of car... In this case he (Jr.) could have let off without consequence, heck he was completely below the double yellow and not just straddling it, he wasn't even on the racing circuit...

Sure racing is aggressive but drivers who are a lap down shouldn't do stupid things that affect the ultimate outcome of a race that they have no chance of winning regardless of how many fans you have or who your daddy was....

[MOBILEMERCMAN]

I'll have to remember that quote when my driver punt's your's out of the way and everyone's calling foul because he's a driver you don't like or driving different make of car... In this case he (Jr.) could have let off without consequence, heck he was completely below the double yellow and not just straddling it, he wasn't even on the racing circuit...

Sure racing is aggressive but drivers who are a lap down shouldn't do stupid things that affect the ultimate outcome of a race that they have no chance of winning regardless of how many fans you have or who your daddy was....

Who is your driver?

Just as many wrecks or more are caused by checking up.

I agree with you on the lap down thing.

[nortech4play]

If Vickers car would run he wouldn't have been able to hit him a second time.

first hit...get him loose...second hit...spin him out in front of the whole field and wreck half the field...sorry but it's a poor excuse at best...sounds like the democrats trying to explain there so called Stimulus "Out of Control Spending" Bill...

[MOBILEMERCMAN]

Most cars lunge ahead when you bump them in the rear on straightaways.

If you want to stay in front you have to stay in it. Don't be an old lady and pull in front and let off.

Starting to sound like you are a Vickers fan.

[Davidmnc]

Starting to sound like you are a Vickers fan.

Don't you mean "The Vickers fan" :26:

[nortech4play]

Who is your driver?

Just as many wrecks or more are caused by checking up.

I agree with you on the lap down thing.

Who's my Driver....Why of course its Kyle Busch....who drives one fast Toyota...He run's to win and has the skill to back it up...

I agree checking up can cause as many wrecks but not in this instance there wasn't anyone on Jr. tail except for the poor souls who got caught up in the big one...

And I won't apologize for routing for a Toyota driver...

I own over 25 Fords, Dodges and Chevy's in our small fleet but also have a Lexus and a couple of MB's and they are great vehicles no matter where there from...

[MOBILEMERCMAN]

Hey Jim, We don't have to agree.

Next week is another race. Its all good, but Toyotas

[MOBILEMERCMAN]

This should be fun. Your guy is good, but I don't like him a bit. I have many favorites as I have listed earlier. The only Yota guy I like is Mikie.. I would like to see him do well.

Kyle did speak well to the media today.

[nortech4play]

Hey Jim, We don't have to agree.

Next week is another race. Its all good, but Toyotas

LOL...I didn't think we would on this incident....next week is another race and from the looks of it right now it might be a repeat of last year....

Daytona's just one race on the schedule and there are 35 more to come...should be an interesting year to say the least...

Trust me I get as much flack as anyone else for liking KB, especially from a buddy who owns one of our local 1/2 mile tracks, but it's all good....

[03darkshadow]

I'll have to remember that quote when my driver punt's your's out of the way and everyone's calling foul because he's a driver you don't like or driving different make of car... In this case he (Jr.) could have let off without consequence, heck he was completely below the double yellow and not just straddling it, he wasn't even on the racing circuit...

Sure racing is aggressive but drivers who are a lap down shouldn't do stupid things that affect the ultimate outcome of a race that they have no chance of winning regardless of how many fans you have or who your daddy was....



I have to agree. that was entirely Jr's fault. if he would have lifted slightly while way below the pack and then slid up nothing would have happened. no one is really crying foul because Jr is like the golden boy. Vickers shouldnt have gone as far as he did blocking though, Jr was still a lap down and no chance of winning.

[nortech4play]

Vickers shouldnt have gone as far as he did blocking though, Jr was still a lap down and no chance of winning.

problem is they were both a lap down and fighting for the "lucky dog" which is the reason Vickers blocked in the first place...there was a lot of racing left to do when this happened and like they say... "In order to Finish First you must First Finish"