Warpath!

[xlr8by]

The yellow US-1 boat with Red head dress.... It was Warpath 1 then Warpath 2 then the rabbit then I believe the pleasure boat and then the banner boat

Stinson if this is true how can the Hull # of the banner boat be 004? Could the rabbit have been built after the banner boat along with the other yellow hull race boats Pred, Starchaser, etc.? Does anyone know if the Rabbit had the new or old transom? This would let us know as i am positive that the banner boat had the old transom, thus if the rabbit had the new transom it must have been after the banner boat.

[Geronimo36]

I wonder what the number is on Dr. Gary's boat?

[DrGaryDC]

It is # 11

[DAREDEVIL]

It is # 11

DAMN,,,,,thats my lucky # ....LOL

Any progress yet Doc ????

[baywatch]

Some useless info and not sure if it applies to the 41's but Bobby's boats were numbered as such;

My boat: APH36029J495

It was the 29th boat out of the mold, built in October 1994, but was a 1995 model.. APH 36' 029 boat out of mold, built in Oct 94 , 95 shows it is a 95 model...

This is the way Bob numbered his Apaches according to Coast Guard regulations.:cheers2:

Mine is APH36028H495 So does that mean mine was popped right in front of yours? Also, what does the J on yours and the H on mine signify? How many total 36's popped? 63 or so?

[baywatch]

Sorry, I have had a few cocktails but figured out my own question. Mine was Popped in August yours in October Frank. Pardon my ignorance.

Maybe eventually we can do the owner registry cronologically off of the HULL ID

[DAREDEVIL]

I think to figure out the "REAL" #'s of how many 41's or so where build ....is very hard.
I guess there where a lot more that we don't actually know anything about and got either sunk or burned during the runs they where build for ?!

Stinson ???? what do u think buddy ????

[DrGaryDC]

yeah, we are going with 311. The number 11 has been all over my life lately. Pretty cool the way the universe works

[Geronimo36]

Cool deal Gary!!! "Come Original".... 311 song...

[Geronimo36]

Mine is APH36028H495 So does that mean mine was popped right in front of yours? Also, what does the J on yours and the H on mine signify? How many total 36's popped? 63 or so?

Hah, that's cool, yours was built right before mine!!!! And hey, your boat was faster than mine at one time!!!! Mine was orignially built with 365 magnums for a guy on a lake in TX.. vroom vroom! :ack2::driving:

Great idea about the registry!!!

[Sean Stinson]

Stinson if this is true how can the Hull # of the banner boat be 004? Could the rabbit have been built after the banner boat along with the other yellow hull race boats Pred, Starchaser, etc.? Does anyone know if the Rabbit had the new or old transom? This would let us know as i am positive that the banner boat had the old transom, thus if the rabbit had the new transom it must have been after the banner boat.

I probably have the order incorrect but out of the first 5 or 6 one was a pleasure boat....Hope this helps....its hard to retain this plethora of Apache knowledge in correct order.....Tommy Evans is probably the best historian out of all of us. You can contact him through Gail Paik....

[Sean Stinson]

Hah, that's cool, yours was built right before mine!!!! And hey, your boat was faster than mine at one time!!!! Mine was orignially built with 365 magnums for a guy on a lake in TX.. vroom vroom! :ack2::driving:

Great idea about the registry!!!

seems to me I remember the 36 boat from the 03 show being 105 or something like that!!!!

[baywatch]

Hah, that's cool, yours was built right before mine!!!! And hey, your boat was faster than mine at one time!!!! Mine was orignially built with 365 magnums for a guy on a lake in TX.. vroom vroom! :ack2::driving:

Great idea about the registry!!!


Dang, and to think I always thought mine was the slowest one built LOL.

[Thunderman]

How many gallons of fuel per saddle tank on the average 41 race Apache?

[Sean Stinson]

How many gallons of fuel per saddle tank on the average 41 race Apache?

4) 45 gal saddles for atotal of 180 plus one under the floor that was 120 for a grand total of 300

[Thunderman]

4) 45 gal saddles for atotal of 180 plus one under the floor that was 120 for a grand total of 300

Thanks. What Would you think is the average fuel consumption in race conditions and in your average cruising around? Figure 900hp Scharged. Obviously just an aproximate.

[chewiekw]

What is the rabbit boat? Can someone post a picture and tell the story on why its call the rabbit boat?

thanks for your help....

[Sean Stinson]

I think to figure out the "REAL" #'s of how many 41's or so where build ....is very hard.
I guess there where a lot more that we don't actually know anything about and got either sunk or burned during the runs they where build for ?!

Stinson ???? what do u think buddy ????

They were 75 original 41's built while Apache was in business at either 188th St or Hollywood FL location

1 boat has 2 HIN and 2 41's are stamped #74 hence the reason Ghost Runner has 2 HIN #'s

[Geronimo36]

What is the rabbit boat? Can someone post a picture and tell the story on why its call the rabbit boat?

thanks for your help....

A bunch of posts back I posted a link to video I uploaded on youtube from the 86' worlds, I believe it's the rabbit. They called it the rabbit because it was a light lay-up and "hopped" and was flighty (as you can see in the video), at least that's the rumor I heard. :driving:

[Sean Stinson]

Thanks. What Would you think is the average fuel consumption in race conditions and in your average cruising around? Figure 900hp Scharged. Obviously just an aproximate.

Ok all I can use for a comparison is Desert Warrior which had the bow tank that I never used and the floor tank which I think was still 120 gals if memory serves me correct and Geronimo which had the saddles and floor tank

Desert Warrior w/Chief 800SC at 3500-4000 cruise zero boost burned about 40 gals an hour at wide open I think it was roughly 60-65....

Geronimo w/DSM 1200SC at 4000 cruise zero boost was again approx 40-50 gals/hr BUT at WOT it burned 80 gals/hr

Now remember thats per engine each scenario so double the gals/hr to get your total fuel burn!!!!

[Sean Stinson]

A bunch of posts back I posted a link to video I uploaded on youtube from the 86' worlds, I believe it's the rabbit. They called it the rabbit because it was a light lay-up and "hopped" and was flighty (as you can see in the video), at least that's the rumor I heard. :driving:

Frank is correct!!!!!:cheers2::cheers2::cheers2:

[DAREDEVIL]

Ok all I can use for a comparison is Desert Warrior which had the bow tank that I never used and the floor tank which I think was still 120 gals if memory serves me correct and Geronimo which had the saddles and floor tank

Desert Warrior w/Chief 800SC at 3500-4000 cruise zero boost burned about 40 gals an hour at wide open I think it was roughly 60-65....

Geronimo w/DSM 1200SC at 4000 cruise zero boost was again approx 40-50 gals/hr BUT at WOT it burned 80 gals/hr

Now remember thats per engine each scenario so double the gals/hr to get your total fuel burn!!!!

I guess its pretty much all the same , 1.2 gallons per mile +/- ?! each engine.

So 80 gallons HR each = ( 80 + MPH ) average

[Sean Stinson]

I guess its pretty much all the same , 1.2 gallons per mile +/- ?! each engine.

So 80 gallons HR each = ( 80 + MPH ) average

No 80 Gals/hr was at 7200 rpm @ 98-102 mph depending on water

[DAREDEVIL]

No 80 Gals/hr was at 7200 rpm @ 98-102 mph depending on water

DAMN,,,that is not bad ... i need more with my little N/A then that !!!!:(

[Sean Stinson]

DAMN,,,that is not bad ... i need more with my little N/A then that !!!!:(

It was hard on the valve train bro but it had plenty of torque and acceleration

[lucy]

Apache Heritage!

[lucy]

what boat is this?

[lucy]

Cool, thanks Sean! :cheers2:

Did the rabbit become Firewater, then painted silver and now for sale? Did the rabbit also have a hull failure in its early days which was fixed?

tlyg3TN5hVM

cool video!! here is the boat in St tropez!

[lucy]

love this photo!

[lucy]

Warpath photos from this past weekend!

[lucy]

Updated List
47'
1. Yellow Kramer race boat
2. PTM/Lucky Strike US Offshore Paceboat (Kramers back up boat) AKA US offshore pace boat (American Flag paint scheme)
3. INXS
4. Little Ceasars
5. The Dealer aka Broken Arrow
6. RDS Kid Apache Kid (45')
7. Tweet Revenge aka Paleface
8. Firewater
9. Octavian
10. Medicine Man
11. Boss Hogg aka Quick Tempered
12. War Party
13. Kemosabe
14. Mega Toy (45' boat)
15. Apache Hertiage (45' boat)
16. For Your Eyes Only
17. Running Brave aka Spirit of Apache
18. Miami to NY Race boat was a 47' but the beam appeared wider
19. Fighter One
20. Joe Kinser's boat on Lake Lanier
21. Lil Can

Please feel free to contribute any changes/updates. When the list gets closer to completion I will create a separate thread similar to the 41' race boat registry for the 47'.

are we done?:)

[Sean Stinson]

probably not but I have been very busy!!!

[DAREDEVIL]

probably not but I have been very busy!!!

Atleast one has something to do .LOL

:sifone:

[Geronimo36]

probably not but I have been very busy!!!


Atleast one has something to do .LOL

:sifone:

No doubt! Busy right now is gooooooddddd!! :):driving:

[lucy]

probably not but I have been very busy!!!

I know good luck with the project!:seeya:

[lucy]

Atleast one has something to do .LOL

:sifone:

you do 2!:)

[lucy]

No doubt! Busy right now is gooooooddddd!! :):driving:

Frank is the NY boat show this weekend?

[chewiekw]

Apache Heritage!

Was Apache Heritage a 47 cut down to 45 correct? Quick question on the 45's why did they build only one? RDS seems to have ran great and the power to weight ratio would be better then a 47 or 41 right?

I also could be all wrong to....thanks for any information. I am almost finished with uploading my pictures from the 86-89 worlds any suggestions on a website where everyone can easily view them?

Scott

[xlr8by]

Was Apache Heritage a 47 cut down to 45 correct? Quick question on the 45's why did they build only one? RDS seems to have ran great and the power to weight ratio would be better then a 47 or 41 right?

I also could be all wrong to....thanks for any information. I am almost finished with uploading my pictures from the 86-89 worlds any suggestions on a website where everyone can easily view them?

Scott

Post the Apache pics here :) Can't help too much on your other questions.

[lucy]

Scott what Apache photos do you have?

[lucy]

yeah, we are going with 311. The number 11 has been all over my life lately. Pretty cool the way the universe works

great maybe you can also used it as a marketing tool! get a phone number for your businesses with 311. "after dialing 911 call 311" for wellness on the warpath! :)

[chewiekw]

Scott what Apache photos do you have?

I have a bunch of photos from KW Worlds 86-89, not just Apache but most of the boats that were there.

[lucy]

bring them on!!!:)

[Geronimo36]

Frank is the NY boat show this weekend?

Yes mam!! Not sure if I'm going to make it though.

[lucy]

thinking about going.. but we also have the Hawks Cay poker run this weekend! by the way any one here going?

[Geronimo36]

I see.... I think Geico is going to be there but I haven't heard much about any other performance boats so I wasn't planning on going. Besides, Saturday I think I have something and Sunday I have a party to go to.

[Thunderman]

great maybe you can also used it as a marketing tool! get a phone number for your businesses with 311. "after dialing 911 call 311" for wellness on the warpath! :)

that is a great idea www.chiropractor411.com in Florida you hear it on the radio all the time after dialing 911 call 411 it turn out to be a great business

[lucy]

more Warpath!!:)

[lucy]

and

[lucy]

Was Apache Heritage a 47 cut down to 45 correct?
Scott

I believe it was a 50 cut down to 47ft

[DrGaryDC]

Great pic

[xlr8by]

Lucy Great Photos! :)

[Thunderman]

Was Apache Heritage a 47 cut down to 45 correct?

Im not sure what size it was but thats the longest looking 45 or 47 ive ever seen. Makes you wonder if the number 50 that it raced with means feet?

[xlr8by]

I believe it was a 50 cut down to 47ft

I thought Apache Heritage was a 47' that was cut down to 45' to be able to see over the bow, and the number 50 was just the number given to the boat? see this post http://www.seriousoffshore.com/forums/showpost.php?p=374308&postcount=1664

[BattleCry]

xlr8by

You are correct. Any questions on Apache Heritage contact Richie Powers. He rigged and throttled it.

[Sean Stinson]

It was not a 50 it looks long because the freeboard was cut down

[Chris]

The Heritage was not shortened. They took the deck off and cut the hull sides down. If you look at the bow from the side, where the keel curves upward, then cut a foot off the top, you effectively shorten the boat.

The Kid Apache 45 was full-height and was shortened by damming up the mold- it's 2' shorter at the transom end. Since no deck mold existed for the 47, the boats were built with sectioned decks. They were put together with a bow piece, an engine compartment and cockpit piece and a center. All molded out of the 41 deck mold.

[Sean Stinson]

That side part of the boat is the freeboard section which when cut down would obviously shorten the boat.....RDS as Chris states was built in a dammed mold to shorten the length but not the freeboard!!!!!

[Sean Stinson]

The deck was usually sectioned into the 41 deck mold in front of the fairing and the rest was either added to the engine room and/or the cockpit!!!!!

[xlr8by]

The deck was usually sectioned into the 41 deck mold in front of the fairing and the rest was either added to the engine room and/or the cockpit!!!!!

Why no 47' with a 9 man race setup stinson? :)

[lucy]

Shake and Bake!!! Rickie, Bobbie:biggrinjester:

[lucy]

another beauty!!:)

[lucy]

Was Apache Heritage a 47 cut down to 45 correct? Quick question on the 45's why did they build only one? RDS seems to have ran great and the power to weight ratio would be better then a 47 or 41 right?

I also could be all wrong to....thanks for any information. I am almost finished with uploading my pictures from the 86-89 worlds any suggestions on a website where everyone can easily view them?

Scott

now the we answer your question!! where are your pictures!!:)

[Geronimo36]

That side part of the boat is the freeboard section which when cut down would obviously shorten the boat.....RDS as Chris states was built in a dammed mold to shorten the length but not the freeboard!!!!!

Sean, any idea if/when they damned the 47' to make the 45', did they add rocker to the rear quarter of the boat? Maybe 2ft wasn't enough?

From what I know of the 36' (damned 41'), when they got the plug from Ben they had to build rocker into the bottom so it functioned correctly.:driving:

[Thunderman]

Shake and Bake!!! Rickie, Bobbie:biggrinjester:

lol!

[thedonz]

Which Apache was this....never heard of this one ? http://boatmad.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=18273

[Sean Stinson]

Sean, any idea if/when they damned the 47' to make the 45', did they add rocker to the rear quarter of the boat? Maybe 2ft wasn't enough?

From what I know of the 36' (damned 41'), when they got the plug from Ben they had to build rocker into the bottom so it functioned correctly.:driving:

89 was when they dammed the mold for the 45.....

[MarylandMark]

Which Apache was this....never heard of this one ? http://boatmad.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=18273

41 Apache- here is Ed Cozzi throttling Flap Jack for Driver Howard Quam.

http://www.historicraceboats.com/membersboats.htm

Ran Miami to Nassau to Miami in 1987

[DrGaryDC]

Magnum Mark told me that my boat was originally built for Howard Quam, but he decided not to use it. Any ideas on that story?
Dr. G

[DrGaryDC]

this one

[thedonz]

41 Apache- here is Ed Cozzi throttling Flap Jack for Driver Howard Quam.

http://www.historicraceboats.com/membersboats.htm

Ran Miami to Nassau to Miami in 1987

that's not a 41 Apache thats a 38 Bertram comp

[MarylandMark]

Great story from another thread elsewhere about Howard from Howards son Les back in Jan 2006. (http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/general-boating-discussion/120011-save-old-race-boats-21.html)


I happened to stumble onto this forum and was pretty surprised to see my fathers name (Howard Quam) and our old race boats as a topic of interest to anyone.

Most of the information I have observed posted on this websight in regard to my father and his old boats is inaccurate to a large degree.

Ed Cozzi it is nice to see you are still alive and kicking but your memory is failing you. Memory loss is the first sign of senilty Ed! LOL LO LLOL Eddie it has been so many years and so many boats ago perhaps I can help you and refresh your memory. And perhaps help someone who now owns one of our old boats.

My fathers first offshore powerboat race was in a 28 ft. magnum in Key West in 1975 I still have the race program and many pictures. I was his throttle man and Phil Dipasqualie was our navigator. The name of that boat was "Balls and all" . The APBA soon made us change the name of that boat for obvious reasons.

We raced the 28 magnum for about year under the new name of "Razzle Dazzle" and my dad soon moved up to the open class I think in the 77 or 78 season I still have the records and can check. Meanwhile I continued to race and drive the 28 foot magnum in the national APBA production class.

My fathers first 38 Bertram and the first boat ever to be named "Flap Jack"was an all red one purchased from Preston Henn. Erroll Lanier was my dads first pro throttle man. Erroll only helped my dad for I think one race and was under contract to Preston. My father then hired Keith Hazell to throttle the Bertram for the 77 or 78 season I would have to dig up the old records but I do still have them. He and Keith didn't race very long before they had a disagreement over prize money. Back then you actually received prize money if you did well. 25K for first place as a matter of fact.

His next throttle man was Smiley Johns who was fresh from the modified class as was keith Hazell. Smiley was racing a red 28 foot magnum and did very well so he wanted less than Keith and hired Smiley. Smiley and my dad prompty stuffed Preston's red 38 Bertram in the 77 or 78 Benihana race in Jersey race while in first place. The Bertram delaminated in that crash and was never seaworthy again I don't think? It then sat in our marina for years. My father refused to repair it and left it front and center in the shop to remind Smiley every day how he had ruined his boat. LOL

My father in 1978 then had Bobby Moore and Jack Stuteville build him a new 38 Bertram all white with red stripes. It was also named "Flap Jack" and was the fastest and strongest vee bottom in the world when built. Keth Hazell was the throttle man because he was the best at the time with the difficult to handle 38 Bertrams and because Keith was the only one who could talk Bertram into building the 38 foot raceboats since their main sorce of revenue was selling high end pleasure boats.

As a matter of fact Bertram would only build you a 38 Betram racer in 1978 if you agreed to buy three at a time. So Keith found buyers for the other two and supervised the construction of the second "Flap jack". My dad and Keith raced that 38 Bertram in the 1979 season with Smiley as the crew chief and I was still racing the old and slow 1976 28 foot yellow magnum.

In the 1979 season my father in the second 38 Bertram named "Flap Jack" finished second in the national championship to Betty Cook in the last race of the season in San Francisco. The race was pretty controversial and was black flagged as soon as Betty pulled in front due to a mysterious phantom fog. We lost the protest and my father and Keith always felt cheated out of the 1979 National Championship.

Right after the 1979 season my dad sold the white and red 38 Bertram to an Englishman whose name escapes me at the moment for 125K. It was raced very successfully in Europe for many years and I don't know what ever happened to it after that.

My father then purchased Betty Cooks second wooden Cougar cat for the 1980 season but commissioned a complete redesign which took some time. In the meantime my dad purchased another 38 Bertram this time it was pre-owned. I think he purchased it from Sandy Satullo and it might have been named "Copper Kettle" before we painted it all black with silver stripes and re named it "Flap Jack". I would have to dig up the records to be sure what it's previous name was? But it was the third and final 38 Bertram named "Flap JacK" ever owned or raced by my father. It was a heavy and slow sled literally indestructible.

This final 38 Bertram was driven by my dad and throttled by Smiley Johns and I was the navigator for the 1980 season. On May 10th 1980 at 12:30 PM in the Bacardi Miami race just ouside of Government cut we barrelled rolled the Bertram and my father was thrown out of the boat and pinned under the boat where I fished him out and attempted to revive Smiley who was fatally injured and died in my arms. The boat was undamaged like I said it was a tank.

Sometime thereafter my father hired Eddie Cozzie to throttle that indestructible black and silver 38 Bertram for the remainder of the 1980 season. I was devasted over Smiley's death and sat the reat of the season out.

For 1981 my father decided to throttle all his boats himself and Eddie Cozzi helped out as crew chief until Eddie left to throttle another boat. Until we retired in our last offshore powerboat race in 1987 my father throttled all his own boats. I drove when time permitted and many others filled in over the years as drivers including Rocky Aoki.

I drove the black 38 Bertram for the 1981 season while my father throttled while we waited for the first of many cats to be built. In 1982 I believe my dad sold this the third and last 38 Bertram named "Flap Jack" to Marshall Ives a Miami lawyer for 5K without engines. In the mean time Eddie and I almost burned the boat and ourselves to death while transfering fuel one day. The boat was undamaged. Nothing could harm this boat I mean nothing. LOL

Anyway that is the 38 Bertram "Flap Jack" history. My father and I raced offshore powerboats from November 1975 in Key west until our last race in the Spring of 1987 at the Miami to Nassau to Miami endurance race in a 41 foot apache.

If I can be of any help with any of our old boats email me at lquam2411@aol.com

[MarylandMark]

that's not a 41 Apache thats a 38 Bertram comp

Even with the Apache logo on it? Obviously asking, not questioning.

I thought it was this boat:


My father and I raced offshore powerboats from November 1975 in Key west until our last race in the Spring of 1987 at the Miami to Nassau to Miami endurance race in a 41 foot apache.

[xlr8by]

Even with the Apache logo on it? Obviously asking, not questioning.

I thought it was this boat:

The boat in post 2329 is an Apache. The boat in the picture you posted is not a 41' Apache, the two pictures are not of the same boat. I am not sure what the other boat is but Quam raced a lot of Bertram's so it could be one. Nice pic though!

[MarylandMark]

The boat in post 2329 is an Apache. The boat in the picture you posted is not a 41' Apache, the two pictures are not of the same boat. I am not sure what the other boat is but Quam raced a lot of Bertram's so it could be one. Nice pic though!

Duh- you would have thought I would have seen that since that was what I was pointing out wouldn't ya?

:sifone:

[DAREDEVIL]

Magnum Mark told me that my boat was originally built for Howard Quam, but he decided not to use it. Any ideas on that story?
Dr. G

If MM told u that, then i guess its not a story !!!!!! LOL :cheers2:

[xlr8by]

Duh- you would have thought I would have seen that since that was what I was pointing out wouldn't ya?

:sifone:

sorry I cannot see the picture you posted clearly on my phone, I did not see an Apache logo on the side, that is why I posted what I did. :cheers2:

[MarylandMark]

sorry I cannot see the picture you posted clearly on my phone, I did not see an Apache logo on the side, that is why I posted what I did. :cheers2:

No no- I was saying "Duh" to myself- like I should have known I posted a different boat since one had the Apache logo on the side and the other didn't.

The duh wasn't towards you- it was a thunk against my own head

[xlr8by]

Great story from another thread elsewhere about Howard from Howards son Les back in Jan 2006. (http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/general-boating-discussion/120011-save-old-race-boats-21.html)

I spoke with Les Quam. He is going to see if he has time to register and post. There was only ever one Apache Flap Jack and that is the boat in the photo in post 2329. Here is what Les had to say, "That picture was taken in July 1987 in the Miami to Nassau to Miami race. My Father Howard is on the throttles, I am driving, and Brad Halpin is the crew chief in the third spot."

So I think this is one more race setup to add to the list!

[DrGaryDC]

Question of the day, where is it??

[thedonz]

I spoke with Les Quam. He is going to see if he has time to register and post. There was only ever one Apache Flap Jack and that is the boat in the photo in post 2329. Here is what Les had to say, "That picture was taken in July 1987 in the Miami to Nassau to Miami race. My Father Howard is on the throttles, I am driving, and Brad Halpin is the crew chief in the third spot."

So I think this is one more race setup to add to the list!

:sifone:and i found it :sifone:

[xlr8by]

:sifone:and i found it :sifone:

Good work!!!! :USA:

[DrGaryDC]

Great, lets add it to the list

[thedonz]

Looks like hammerhead is getting new skin :)

[Geronimo36]

Looks like hammerhead is getting new skin :)

Yeah man! Went to the upholstery shop some weeks ago.:driving:

[DrGaryDC]

Who is doing the "skin"

[thedonz]

Fine Line

[lowblue320]

Looks like hammerhead is getting new skin :)

Tell me they changed the paint job?

[thedonz]

Nada

[Geronimo36]

Tell me they changed the paint job?

I've posted many pictures of the project in another thread... ;)

Bobby Saccenti is doing the rerig.
http://www.seriousoffshore.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10660&page=2

[lowblue320]

I've posted many pictures of the project in another thread... ;)

Bobby Saccenti is doing the rerig.
http://www.seriousoffshore.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10660&page=2

Do you have any recent pics?

[Thunderman]

The boats he raced werent his. Years ago he showed me the photo from the chopper were he's standing on the bottom of the hull, waiting to be picked up. Supposedly they were leading the race easily when it sounded like a bomb went off, imediately the water started coming in, so they aimed towards a sandbar. he said at one point he looked back and the motors were under water, even the distrubutors (I think they were magnetos), only the horns of the Fuel injection were out and they were still running, but eventually they cut out. According to him, after some arguing they took the hull back to Jack Kramer and Mark Macmanus where it was quickly dissapeared., And they got another hull made, at cost. He's been looking for the photo if he finds it ill post it. Ill also ask the name of the boat.
Found out from a good source. The name of the boat was Flap Jack. Supposedly one of the lightest 41's ever made. Im preatty sure Quam didnt own it by then. The boat was dissapeared assumed distroyed. When this happened the paint job had been changed and it wasnt being raced under Flap Jack anymore, I dont know What it was called when it broke yet.

[Geronimo36]

Do you have any recent pics?

I haven't checked with Bob lately but probably more to come once the skin is done.. I'll update the thread once I get them. The owner is taking the project once piece at a time so it's not a rush job.:cheers2:

[lucy]

Rich Cipullo, George Morales and Bob Idoni picking up another checkered flag, with this boat on its way to what would become its 3rd consecutive world Champion ship!! 46' triple engine boat. Old school racing!!:)

[fund razor]

Sean, any idea if/when they damned the 47' to make the 45', did they add rocker to the rear quarter of the boat? Maybe 2ft wasn't enough?

From what I know of the 36' (damned 41'), when they got the plug from Ben they had to build rocker into the bottom so it functioned correctly.:driving:

Dammed. :D

[WMF]

Just read this whole tread, lots of great info and pics!!!

[Geronimo36]

Rich Cipullo, George Morales and Bob Idoni picking up another checkered flag, with this boat on its way to what would become its 3rd consecutive world Champion ship!! 46' triple engine boat. Old school racing!!:)

Looks like Manasquan Inlet!:USA:

[DrGaryDC]

Looks like your right

[DrGaryDC]

Was watching battle of the seas 2 and was impressed with Warrior. At the start of the race, i believe in AC, they just took off and out accelerated everyone including predator and lethal weapon. Does anyone know their setup back then. We are setting our boat to accelerate hard, thanks
Dr G

[Geronimo36]

Was watching battle of the seas 2 and was impressed with Warrior. At the start of the race, i believe in AC, they just took off and out accelerated everyone including predator and lethal weapon. Does anyone know their setup back then. We are setting our boat to accelerate hard, thanks
Dr G

I think Warrior was a D-class boat?

PS, turn up the surround sound for Alez Vite running the merc 1000's in Key West!!!!

How'd you like the Atlantic City race?

[DrGaryDC]

Frank, you are correct, D class, they were all running around 800 hp at the time with a max of 550 cubic inches, high compression. I was impressed how Warrior ran, i believe that is now island racer. Correct me if im wrong

[xlr8by]

Frank, you are correct, D class, they were all running around 800 hp at the time with a max of 550 cubic inches, high compression. I was impressed how Warrior ran, i believe that is now island racer. Correct me if im wrong

Chill Out Warrior is now Island Racer, Dr. was that the year AC was really rough?

[Geronimo36]

Warrior became Chill Out Warrior, then Island Racer I think. The "Warrior" graphic is exactly the same between the two with the difference being Chill Out on one from what I remember. I could be wrong, it's been a while seen I saw the vids.

I hear ya Garry, I too thought they were running really strong thru that chop!!

I really liked the head/head battle in the atlantic city race with Predator... The camera angle with the sun light was a little rough but they were going head/head for quite some time!

[DrGaryDC]

Just watched the start again, it was in AC, it doesnt look incredibly rough. Island runner, lethal weapon, predator all running bout the same. Warrior took off like a bat out of hell

[DrGaryDC]

I am so looking forward to AC this year. Bring on the big stuff

[xlr8by]

Just watched the start again, it was in AC, it doesnt look incredibly rough. Island runner, lethal weapon, predator all running bout the same. Warrior took off like a bat out of hell

Who owned Island Runner in the video? Was that before Kerbeck owned the boat?

[DrGaryDC]

Not sure, will have to watch again

[LEOPAJM]

Who owned Island Runner in the video? Was that before Kerbeck owned the boat?

Nope .... I think that was him in the video ? It's almost time to break those out !!! :driving:

[Sean Stinson]

Warrior became Chill Out Warrior, then Island Racer I think. The "Warrior" graphic is exactly the same between the two with the difference being Chill Out on one from what I remember. I could be wrong, it's been a while seen I saw the vids.

I hear ya Garry, I too thought they were running really strong thru that chop!!

I really liked the head/head battle in the atlantic city race with Predator... The camera angle with the sun light was a little rough but they were going head/head for quite some time!

Warrior, Chillout Warrior, and Mohican Warrior.....were all the same owner Rolli Pena who sold the boat to Paulie LaSassa who named it Island Racer!!!

[DrGaryDC]

Yeah, that is what i figured. Anyone know the setup he was running, drives, gears, props, rpms, etc

[Geronimo36]

Warrior, Chillout Warrior, and Mohican Warrior.....were all the same owner Rolli Pena who sold the boat to Paulie LaSassa who named it Island Racer!!!

thanks for the info sean!

[Sean Stinson]

Yeah, that is what i figured. Anyone know the setup he was running, drives, gears, props, rpms, etc

Sure do.....and since I am returning to Jersey you can buy me lunch while we discuss Apaches!!!!:cheers2::cheers2::cheers2::sifone::sifone:

[DrGaryDC]

Sounds like a plan, you coming to the OPA awards banquet?

[Sean Stinson]

Sounds like a plan, you coming to the OPA awards banquet?

No but I will probably show my face at the NJPPC banquet....

[ChiefApache]

No but I will probably show my face at the NJPPC banquet....

And you're passing up the pool party??? :toetap05::)

[Sean Stinson]

And you're passing up the pool party??? :toetap05::)

Well....ahhh...it's a long story!!!!!

[DrGaryDC]

Superchargers, any recommendations out there for blowers. We are researching all of them, pro's/cons

[Geronimo36]

One word from me, Whipple, if you wanna spend the coin!!!!

[Sean Stinson]

Superchargers, any recommendations out there for blowers. We are researching all of them, pro's/cons

PSI is a great blower.....but it seems whipple is the deal of the day at the moment!!!!

[GENERAL LEE]

PSI is a great blower.....but it seems whipple is the deal of the day at the moment!!!!

The PSI's are nice, but MAN you have to have some BIG scoops!

I'd go with the Whipple setup as well. They seem to really work well.

[lucy]

Who are this guys??

[lowblue320]

Who are this guys??

Hey that's my boy Richie Powers.

[Geronimo36]

Who are this guys??

Chip and Richie?

[Sean Stinson]

Richie Powers and the other one looks like Chip Fendt......final answer!!!!

[lucy]

:sifone::sifone::sifone::sifone::sifone::sifone::sifone:

[Thunderman]

How come you did not get LUSEA license plates for your Porsche?

[lucy]

It was not available in FL, The Porsche Club here seems to like it the way it is! and so do I:)

[DrGaryDC]

I tried the porsche, went with the ferrari spyder instead

[thedonz]

I tried the porsche, went with the ferrari spyder instead

Better choice

[xlr8by]

Better choice

Wrong!! :sifone::sifone: Ferrari stopped using the word "Spyder" after the 365gts/4 otherwise known as the Daytona Spyder. All the later drop tops are known as "Spiders" with an i such as the 348, 355, 360, 430. The cars prior to the 365gts/4 are with a y. I know and follow vintage Ferrari's more than 41's :) So Doc do you have a Spyder or a Spider?

[Geronimo36]

What am I doin wrong?:bump:

[BRD]

Who are this guys??

I was gonna say Joey from the back street boys and Walter Mondale ?

:bump:

Kidding .... both good guys !

[ChiefApache]

What am I doin wrong?:bump:

No kidding. I own a 1995 BMW 740i.........with 216,000 miles. :cuss:

[BRD]

No kidding. I own a 1995 BMW 740i.........with 216,000 miles. :cuss:

STOP ! :driving:

[ChiefApache]

STOP ! :driving:

I'm not the one showing I own 3 boats on my info..........pal. :sifone:







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[BRD]

I'm not the one showing I own 3 boats on my info..........pal. :sifone:







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Ha !!! Just supporting the marine industry the best I know how sweetie !?

See ya in a couple hours ! :cheers2:

[lucy]

i was gonna say joey from the back street boys and walter mondale ?

:bump:

Kidding .... Both good guys !

lol!!:)

[lucy]

when I grow up this is what I want!!!!:)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKLyGpklKKY

[lucy]

Sweet it is!!!!!!!!!!:driving:

[lucy]

Here is a great buy for a serious buyer!

[DrGaryDC]

It would be a spider with an "I". Here is another one of my toys

[xlr8by]

It would be a spider with an "I". Here is another one of my toys

Looks good! Doc. Great taste! Nice pics as well Lucy :sifone::sifone:

[Thunderman]

Here is a great buy for a serious buyer!

Ive always heard Jester has been very well kept and is very reliable. What does it have for power?

[Pete]

Apache Heritage!

This was taken at a Poker run after it was redone.:USA:

[DAREDEVIL]

when I grow up this is what I want!!!!:)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKLyGpklKKY

And i thought there will be a picture of me ???!!!!!!mmmhhhh:sifone::seeya:

[J-Bonz]

And i thought there will be a picture of me ???!!!!!!mmmhhhh:sifone::seeya:

Ha!!! 2 funny bro... How ya been?

[thedonz]

Ive always heard Jester has been very well kept and is very reliable. What does it have for power?

Yup Michael keeps that boat in top shape....last time i saw it, it had Cheif's

[DrGaryDC]

Very nice, only question, how much is that swim platform being used, not feeling it, beautiful though

[DrGaryDC]

Very nice Lucy, been in most everything except the Saleen. Still a ferrari guy at heart

[Sean Stinson]

Very nice Lucy, been in most everything except the Saleen. Still a ferrari guy at heart

Lambo bro....always had fun with them!!!!

[Indian Outlaw]

Ive always heard Jester has been very well kept and is very reliable. What does it have for power?

800's and#5's

[DrGaryDC]

Cant fit in them, im 6'8", i do shoe horn into my ferrari though

[Sean Stinson]

Cant fit in them, im 6'8", i do shoe horn into my ferrari though

When will you be in Jersey bro????

[DrGaryDC]

For the OPA awards at the end of the month

[lucy]

more Warpath!!:)

[lucy]

.!

[lucy]

..

[BRD]

Here is a great buy for a serious buyer!

You aint kiddin Lucy !!! :iagree:

[lucy]

Have any of you read this novel and what did you think of it?

[Thunderman]

I was told the boat in the middle of the cover is warpath.

[lucy]

What was Jester call before it was Jester?

[Geronimo36]

Have any of you read this novel and what did you think of it?

Thought it was a persons fictional view of a non-fictional plot... ;)

Also, changing the names and insinuating who some of the characters were may have been a little unwarranted.:rolleyes:

[Nykamp]

Jester was Cardiac Arrest a long time ago.

[lucy]

:sifone::sifone::sifone::sifone::sifone::sifone:

[lucy]

Bob looking his best!!! it was great seeing everyone! great party!!!!

[Geronimo36]

Good deal Lucy! Looks like Bob was dressed to the 9's

[ChiefApache]

Bob looking his best!!! it was great seeing everyone! great party!!!!

Wished we could have been there! Great pic.

[lucy]

yes he was Frank! Look at Bobcat in the back he looks cold!! never remember in Miami every boby wearing Jackets for so long:)...we had to do some Indian dance to stay warm!! lol

[lucy]

Wished we could have been there! Great pic.

we miss you Barbara!:seeya:

[Geronimo36]

yes he was Frank! Look at Bobcat in the back he looks cold!! never remember in Miami every boby wearing Jackets for so long:)...we had to do some Indian dance to stay warm!! lol

Lucy, if it makes ya feel any better just know that when you guys were sipping martini's with jackets on, I was busy building a snowman and sledding! :)

[lucy]

I feel a lot better now!!! great photos!!It looks like my little princess will be ready to drive that boat soon!!!:)

[Geronimo36]

I feel a lot better now!!! great photos!!It looks like my little princess will be ready to drive that boat soon!!!:)

Yes she will!!

I have a big problem brewing...........:leaving: When ever I pull her on the sled she turns to me and says; "Daddy, I wanna go faster please. ":eek::seeya:

[LadyDaze]

Bob looking his best!!! it was great seeing everyone! great party!!!!

Hey Lucy, it was a great party! And it was a lot of fun dancing the night away :)

Great to see you again!

[DAREDEVIL]

Lucy, if it makes ya feel any better just know that when you guys were sipping martini's with jackets on, I was busy building a snowman and sledding! :)

They sure made that snowman look better then u ...lol , ok ok not that hard to do ...hehehe :sifone:

[baywatch]

Lucy, if it makes ya feel any better just know that when you guys were sipping martini's with jackets on, I was busy building a snowman and sledding! :)

+1 Frank

[Bobcat]

yes he was Frank! Look at Bobcat in the back he looks cold!! never remember in Miami every boby wearing Jackets for so long:)...we had to do some Indian dance to stay warm!! lol

it was in the 40's that night !:eek: was great to see you again Lucy!:seeya:

[Geronimo36]

They sure made that snowman look better then u ...lol , ok ok not that hard to do ...hehehe :sifone:

I'm married so I have no one else to impress!:bump:

Some good ole Tomfoolery got her interested in marrying me! ;)

[lucy]

Hey Lucy, it was a great party! And it was a lot of fun dancing the night away :)

Great to see you again!

Like wise!! Hello from New orleans!!:):seeya:

[DrGaryDC]

New Orleans is one of those cities that you need to experience. Good times and good food

[Geronimo36]

New Orleans is one of those cities that you need to experience. Good times and good food

I've never been... My wife went there on VaCa a few years ago but I was stuck home working....:ack2:

She said she had a great time and had an even better time on the river dinner cruise.

See ya Saturday!:driving:

[glassdave]

I've never been... My wife went there on VaCa a few years ago but I was stuck home working....:ack2:

She said she had a great time and had an even better time on the river dinner cruise.

See ya Saturday!:driving:

I was actually scheduled on a flight to New Awlins the day of the hurricane. Going with a couple of friends from there:eek:


Kinda glad it wasnt the day before . . . .

[DrGaryDC]

Sounds like a plan Frank, flying in friday morning, then heading down to the shore

[LadyDaze]

[QUOTE=lucy;441909][COLOR="Magenta"]Like wise!! Hello from New orleans!!:)


Wow! Looks like fun! Never been!

It never fails, somone says; oh hey! lets all get together after work for cocktails...

Of course I pick Ash Wednesday....ugh!
I can never seem to remember...

[ChiefApache]

Like wise!! Hello from New orleans!!:):seeya:

You don't miss anything, do you sweetie? LOL!:cheers2::cheers2:

[lucy]

Of course I pick Ash Wednesday....ugh!
I can never seem to remember...

Everything in life has a solution!! this may help!!:sifone:

[lucy]

You don't miss anything, do you sweetie? LOL!:cheers2::cheers2:

Total area of Earth's surface: 196,940,000 square miles.. of that 139,685,000 is water!!! Barbara I think I need some help in discovering another planet! your neck of the woods is up for the summer!Besos!

[lucy]

Sounds like a plan Frank, flying in friday morning, then heading down to the shore

I want to see pictures!! (I am sure Frank sister has that covered) enjoy it!!!:)

[ChiefApache]

Total area of Earth's surface: 196,940,000 square miles.. of that 139,685,000 is water!!! Barbara I think I need some help in discovering another planet! your neck of the woods is up for the summer!Besos!

We would loooooooooooove that!!! You will not be disappointed, I promise. We can get a big group and make it like Mardi Gras all over again my friend. :cheers2::willy_nilly:

[lucy]

looking forward!!:)

[lucy]

Where have all that APACHES gone!!? Isla Morada Run!

[lucy]

Apache was well represented!!! Kemosabe was in the house looking good as ever!:)

[Thunderman]

awesome pant job! who owns it?

[MarylandMark]

That is Hellraiser- Albert Haynesworths previous boat before Terminator which is now in Texas

[boatme]

Little APACHE action

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgdLQ_UlSRU

[LSUbaja]

hey i live in in baton rouge 45 min from NOLA! ya'll need to come its a blast good times people and food. the party never ends.

same on the water too some really good boating if you don't mind muddy water lol. lots of neat bars and you can only get to by boat. the swamps are also fun to ride in amd they all hook to each other.

[Lee]

Apache was well represented!!! Kemosabe was in the house looking good as ever!:)


From the text pictures I received last night at 2:30am it sure looks like there were a lot of "Pranks" :cheers2::cheers2::eek: going on last night at the hotel.

[Geronimo36]

Little APACHE action

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgdLQ_UlSRU

Nice video, thanks!!! First time I've ever seen Renegade run. Renegade was a Chief before Chief existed, it was pulled from the same mold along with a few others, including the Chief..

[Geronimo36]

I want to see pictures!! (I am sure Frank sister has that covered) enjoy it!!!:)

Doreen got a bunch of pictures I'm sure! It was a great time!! Finally got to meet Dr. Gary in person!! My neck still hurts from lookin up!!:cheers2:

[DrGaryDC]

Haha, great to meet ya Frank, Team Apache all the way

[lucy]

Little APACHE action

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgdLQ_UlSRU

one apache,...2 apaches....,3 apachessss!! good video Marc!!

[lucy]

I saw some of the photos Tim posted, it look like you guys had a blast!!:)

[lucy]

From the text pictures I received last night at 2:30am it sure looks like there were a lot of "Pranks" :cheers2::cheers2::eek: going on last night at the hotel.

and where were you Mr??

[xlr8by]

Guys,
Can anyone post pics of these 47's?

12. War Party
14. Mega Toy (45' boat)
16. For Your Eyes Only
19. Fighter One
20. Joe Kinser's boat on Lake Lanier
21. Lil Can

I have pics of the other 47's and am going to post a registry similar to the 41's that I did in the past I just want to post pics of all the boats at once. Thanks!

[lucy]

.!.

[olli]

55600

[boatme]

one apache,...2 apaches....,3 apachessss!! good video Marc!!

Thanks Lucy

Thought i would ad to the fun on this thread :)

[BattleCry]

Here is an old video of Joe Kinser's 47 Negative Reaction when Heinz owned it. It also has a fly-over of Fort Apache.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRt-luHB2Zs

Big Andy

[Sean Stinson]

Nice I like how they were running in the bay at the end of the canal from Apache

[lowblue320]

Here is an old video of Joe Kinser's 47 Negative Reaction when Heinz owned it. It also has a fly-over of Fort Apache.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRt-luHB2Zs

Big Andy

Nice video, thanks for posting.. I saw Kemosabe this weekend at the Miami boat show poker run and will post pics later . These 47 are just bad asz.

[BattleCry]

I saw Kemosabe this weekend as well. I talked to the two practical jokers Frolic and Adams. I rode in the black 36 Deep Impact quad 350 on the way down there.

[lucy]

Andy if you still around.. we are celebrating Mike Friedman's birthday tomorrow and we need a bodyguard!!:) you know I can not count on Pauly!!:willy_nilly:HAPPY BIRTHDAY MIKE!!!!:sifone:(he is not a member here...maybe he will hear about it and will want to join the group)!

[lucy]

Guys,
Can anyone post pics of these 47's?

12. War Party
14. Mega Toy (45' boat)
16. For Your Eyes Only
19. Fighter One
20. Joe Kinser's boat on Lake Lanier
21. Lil Can

I have pics of the other 47's and am going to post a registry similar to the 41's that I did in the past I just want to post pics of all the boats at once. Thanks!

lets get it done!! who has this photos and like to share??:)

[DrGaryDC]

great pic of Jester. I was at the OPA awards last week and people heard about my new ride. I had someone came up to me and tell me that Apaches were the best built boats ever made, and walked away. I felt good about that.
Dr. G

[fund razor]

I had someone came up to me and tell me that Apaches were the best built boats ever made, and walked away. I felt good about that.
Dr. G
Yeah, those comments help offset the ones from haters about "old dogs" and "lead sleds." :)
In my opinion, there are two kinds of boats: Apaches and Non-Apaches. :D
:cheers2:

[fund razor]

Here is an old video of Joe Kinser's 47 Negative Reaction when Heinz owned it. It also has a fly-over of Fort Apache.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRt-luHB2Zs

Big Andy

Was that an Altimeter at 2:30??? :D :D

[BRD]

Happy B-day Mike ! Love Jester !!!

[lucy]

Yeah, those comments help offset the ones from haters about "old dogs" and "lead sleds." :)
In my opinion, there are two kinds of boats: Apaches and Non-Apaches. :D
:cheers2:

my philosophy on that is... Make your haters your motivators!!:blush5:!

[lucy]

great pic of Jester. I was at the OPA awards last week and people heard about my new ride. I had someone came up to me and tell me that Apaches were the best built boats ever made, and walked away. I felt good about that.
Dr. G

When you get to know your boat and became one with it..... is all about the thrill of the ride!! and you own the best I known!!:)

[DrGaryDC]

Thanks Lucy, i totally agree. She is incredible and looking forward to a ride of my life, powers on
Dr. G

[PromoProducts-BP]

Lucy, do you have any more pictures of the poker run? Looks like a great time (even with the cooler weather).

[lucy]

Hi Blake!!! great to see you are here!! welcome!! Did not bring my camera to the power run!!! I did see your friend Randy Weill get on award for something!!:)

[lettuce]

Lucy do you have Bob Saccenti's phone number by chance -- I'd like to talk with him about a 41.

Thanks, Dave

[lowblue320]

Here are the pics I ws able to get on the 2010 Miami Boat Show Poker Run.

[xlr8by]

Guys,
Can anyone post pics of these 47's?

12. War Party
14. Mega Toy (45' boat)
16. For Your Eyes Only
19. Fighter One
21. Lil Can

I have pics of the other 47's and am going to post a registry similar to the 41's that I did in the past I just want to post pics of all the boats at once. Thanks!

So far over the last few days I was only able to take Joe's boat off the list. Please help!

[lucy]

Lucy do you have Bob Saccenti's phone number by chance -- I'd like to talk with him about a 41.

Thanks, Dave

I wrote it down on the Restroom's wall at Mangos!!!(just kidding check your pm)!

[lucy]

Here are the pics I ws able to get on the 2010 Miami Boat Show Poker Run.

great photos Andy!! how did you make out with your boat?

[lowblue320]

great photos Andy!! how did you make out with your boat?

Broke the drive line by Elliott key on Friday and limped back. We hoped in the car and drove down around 3 and partied all weekend. This was a great run, I loved the weather . Which boat were you on?

[lucy]

I do not enjoy being all bumble up while boating:toetap05: it was to cold for me!! I drove down as well!

[lucy]

Guys,
Can anyone post pics of these 47's?

12. War Party
14. Mega Toy (45' boat)
16. For Your Eyes Only
19. Fighter One
21. Lil Can

I have pics of the other 47's and am going to post a registry similar to the 41's that I did in the past I just want to post pics of all the boats at once. Thanks!

So far over the last few days I was only able to take Joe's boat off the list. Please help!

Where is Stinson!!?:p

[POWERPLAY33]

I saw a short clip of Marks 41 yesterday, one of my favorites!

[lucy]

Super Heroes are catching on!

[lucy]

and!

[lucy]

more kemosabe!!

[Thunderman]

a very well balanced 47!

[Sean Stinson]

Where is Stinson!!?:p

I am always here for you baby!!!!!

[J-Bonz]

Here's one for ya...

[lucy]

I likes!!!:)

[lucy]

I am always here for you baby!!!!!

thank u Sean!!! can u get a boat down to Mexico for me I am getting a little claustrophobic in this cave!! lol!!:) Hello from The Yucatan Peninsula:seeya:

[Geronimo36]

Over the weekend I breathed life into the Apache engine I rebuilt over the winter. :)
Q0uxa43xUto

[DrGaryDC]

Looking good Frank, cant wait to hear those blowers scream, powers on
Dr. G

[Geronimo36]

Thanks Dr. G! It was a sigh of relief to finally fire it up....it's been sitting in the garage for a solid month! :)

[lucy]

Over the weekend I breathed life into the Apache engine I rebuilt over the winter. :)
Q0uxa43xUto

how did it work out Frank?

[lucy]

Gary are u doing OPA and KW next year??

[DrGaryDC]

Yes, we are doing the OPA circuit and KW, cant wait. First race in Ocean City Maryland

[Geronimo36]

how did it work out Frank?

Perrrrrfffeeeecctttt! :driving:

[PromoProducts-BP]

Lucy, are you going to be in Miami next week or traveling around the world, lol? The Yucatan photos look like a great experience.

Geronimo- The engine sounds sweet!!

[DrGaryDC]

We have 2 pair of #3 speedmasters /26 spline, 1.50 and 1.58, rebuilt 0 hrs available
Gary

[DrGaryDC]

Lucy, who takes your pictures on your world travels

[baywatch]

Lucy, are you going to be in Miami next week or traveling around the world, lol? The Yucatan photos look like a great experience.

Geronimo- The engine sounds sweet!!

That is funny. I have often thought that Lucy's passport must be as thick as a phone book with all the pages she must have stamped from around the world.

[DrGaryDC]

There are weeks when i cant wait to get out of those dirty airports and just lay on my couch and watch TV. Traveling gets old after a while