47' Commanche Conversion

[Bobcat]

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https://www.thehulltruth.com/boating-forum/909121-commanche-powerboat-rebuild.html

[fund razor]

I can't remember my username over there, but I want to tell the guy who thinks it would look good with the Apache logo on the side that it is a ****ing Co-Manchy.

A slow, retarded Co-Manchy.

[fund razor]

There are sure a lot more Apache experts than Apache owners.

[rschap1]

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[Ratickle]

That boat was originally Octavian, a 47' Apache built in 1989.

It was sold a couple times at auction up here in the Powerquest sale, but the first two times the bank nixed the price. So, when Powerquest did finally sell at auction, Neil ended up with the boat and sold it.

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[fund razor]

That boat isn't a Co-Manchy?

[Ratickle]

Well, that's a bit of a story also. I may not get the years right, but;

The boat was built in 1989, I believe, at Apache.
In around 2007 or 2008, the boat was dropped off a forklift onto a seawall and broke the hull in half.
After that, McManus rebuilt the boat with an entire new hull, same deck.
So, it became a Comanche with a new HIN in 2008 or 2009.

[Ratickle]

After that, somehow, it ended up at Powerquest and the deck was cut off. Rumors were the deck was cut off so the bank could not repossess it because it would be worthless.

Also, at that time I believe, the stringer system was converted to be a twin boat instead of a triple. Then Powerquest went bankrupt and it sat for the couple years during the different auctions until Neil purchased the lot and sold Octavian.

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[fund razor]

Ok. Co-Manchy it is.

[rschap1]

Wow
Another twisted tale

[Bobcat]

Not a lot of online death threats in a Commanche thread...:biggrinjester:

[Ratickle]

I'm told, by my secret insider informants, my timeline is off about 10 years. It was allegedly around 1997/1998 when the boat was dropped on the wall and rebuilt by McManus.

The new HIN would say for sure what year it was completed.

[fund razor]

I'm told, by my secret insider informants, my timeline is off about 10 years. It was allegedly around 1997/1998 when the boat was dropped on the wall and rebuilt by McManus.

The new HIN would say for sure what year it was completed.

Because HIM numbers are never stamped late.

[Ratickle]

Because HIM numbers are never stamped late.

Exactly!!!:sifone:

Sometimes HIN numbers are delayed though. (And maybe HER numbers).:)

[Ratickle]

I was talking to one of the guys very familiar with the boat. Weight with the triples with #3's was 11,800 lbs. It was a light boat when original.

I was telling him I didn't believe the weight being discussed, but now I do.

[Ratickle]

Also, the stringer system was planned to be converted to twins, but never was completed due to the bankruptcy. Stringers were still set for trips.

[Ratickle]

So a little more running last night and we need to play with props still. But I trimmed the two outside motors up and just ran the center and got 32mph at 4200rpms with a 1.3 fuel burn. Then trimmed the center up and ran the two outsides and jumped on plane and was quickly at 50+.

His numbers are way better than I would have thought possible.

[fund razor]

So a little more running last night and we need to play with props still. But I trimmed the two outside motors up and just ran the center and got 32mph at 4200rpms with a 1.3 fuel burn. Then trimmed the center up and ran the two outsides and jumped on plane and was quickly at 50+.

His numbers are way better than I would have thought possible.

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[Ratickle]

I wonder if he actually got the boat on plane with only one motor???

[Bobcat]

I'ma come back on this thread this afternoon..After I've been drinking....Prepare to be death threated.:reddevil:

[Bobcat]

Served !!!!

[Ratickle]

That's all you've got?

Severely disappointed......

[Ratickle]

85568

Hard to believe this is an original Apache 47.

[fund razor]

If I dropped a skater on a sea wall and broke it in half and then used some of the parts to make a tugboat it wouldn't still be a skater.

[Bobcat]

That's all you've got?

Severely disappointed......

Check Your Mailbox:reddevil:

[Bobcat]

If I dropped a skater on a sea wall and broke it in half and then used some of the parts to make a tugboat it wouldn't still be a skater.

SS Tonya Harding?

[Ratickle]

85568

Hard to believe this is an original Apache 47.


If I dropped a skater on a sea wall and broke it in half and then used some of the parts to make a tugboat it wouldn't still be a skater.

Misspoke, Hard to believe this Was an original Apache 47.

[Ratickle]

I wonder why there is no new information on the performance?

[fund razor]

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[Ratickle]

Still no new performance info.

I'm with you, except I'm extremely skeptical and want to see proof.....

[jstbecauz]

I just found this thread...its definitely not an Apache you are correct...you guys are funny

As far as performance goes, it only tops out at 63 mph with about a 1 mpg burn rate at 5k rpms. STILL haven't re-proped the engines. It gets worked almost every weekend so re-proping hasn't been in the front of my mind. It will get 1.4 at 40+ mph loaded for a trip with 18 tanks, 250 gallons of fuel and 1k lbs in ice. It will run on the 2 outside motors over 50 mph and it will plane on the center motor if the outside ones are trimmed up. Boat, motors and 100 gallons of fuel came in at just over 9k lbs.

Flame away...death threats are welcome too, just make sure you come in person to deliver them ;-)

[fund razor]

Holy year old conversations. :)

1,000 pounds in ice. Got to keep the fishies cold?

[jstbecauz]

Holy year old conversations. :)

1,000 pounds in ice. Got to keep the fishies cold?

I'm usually a little late to the party.

Ice is for an overnight dive trip.

[Bobcat]

Just went back and re-read the Thread...You've got a killer sense of humor..


About those windows though:rofl:

[Ratickle]

I think this is cool actually.

The Comanche bottom is a splash of the original Apache 47, just built by Mark instead of Bobby.

I have to believe that boat would get you home in almost any conditions. And, it must be a wave crusher.

Now, it may need 3 of the new 450 V8 outboards. :sifone:

[fund razor]

By the way, the death threat joke was an homage to the old Apache threads of OSO. :)

Nothing to do with this thread.

[fund razor]

If you look at that 35 mistress with the ghetto wrap, and then you look at the green outboard machine 47 Comanche, the 47 actually looks good. Sort of want. :o

[jstbecauz]

By the way, the death threat joke was an homage to the old Apache threads of OSO. :)

Nothing to do with this thread.

I was just playing, I am not that sensitive. lmao

[jstbecauz]

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[Ratickle]

Had to zoom in. It looks good.

How far out do you go in the Gulf? Run into any big stuff yet?

https://i730.photobucket.com/albums/ww310/ptrose/Pilot%20House%20Copache%20OB-001.jpg (https://s730.photobucket.com/user/ptrose/media/Pilot%20House%20Copache%20OB-001.jpg.html)

[Ratickle]

That the boat will plane on only the center engine, with the other two trimmed up, is amazing to me.

Will it actually come up on plane on just that one? And if so, have you checked cruise speed and fuel usage in that configuration?