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old377guy
03-02-2014, 05:22 PM
Just some idle musing. I had a buddy ask me this the other day and I didn't have any answer. "Why don't many or any modern boats (race or pleasure) have the big dual ram (and shock reservoir rams) like back in the day"? My question is "Have rams gotten stronger or more forgiving of shock loads"? What's up with this?

Bobcat
03-02-2014, 11:04 PM
$$$$

Bobcat
03-02-2014, 11:05 PM
Not a good reason:o

old377guy
03-03-2014, 11:31 AM
Yeah, why no race boats with the big HD setups?

Ratickle
03-04-2014, 09:08 AM
Are you talking about rams on the drives or the tabs?

old377guy
03-04-2014, 11:50 AM
The tabs, Paul.

Bobcat
03-04-2014, 06:28 PM
I was thinking drives also....Don't get me started on $100K boats with sh*tty tabs....blows my mind.

KAAMA
03-04-2014, 08:15 PM
Yeah, how 'bout some of dem "Bennett" trim tabs??? :leaving:

Top Banana
03-04-2014, 08:38 PM
The dual rams that were first used by Kiekhaefer used only the finest oil Mr Kiekhaefer could find. Yes, real whale oil was used by the Kiekhefer teams in both the tabs and the trim pumps for the drives.

Over time it was discovered that you didn't really need such a big tab to get the boat to perform during races. The tabs were mounted in such a way that smaller tabs could give the team the desired effect on the hull that was needed.

The next change was the length of the tab. They could keep a single ram and extend the length of the tab and get what they needed.

old377guy
03-05-2014, 11:43 AM
Thanks Charlie

Ratickle
03-06-2014, 09:13 AM
Was the oil the big change for strength of the single ram, or just the smaller tab? I can't recall of a single ram failure on a tab except for when the entire assembly was also destroyed.