Were's Mystifire ?

[kidapache]

wheres this boat now

[Ratickle]

Hey Paul, there's a blast from the past. Haven't seen that boat brought up in years. No one has ever found it? Did anyone ever completely figure out Mystifier's lineage? I think the last time Charlie was looking into it, it went something like:

1. The second Ajac Hawk, 37'6" length, built and unveiled in 1978 in Argentina with Jerry Jacoby and Bobby Saccenti, raced from 1978 to 1981. Built by putting a block in the 39 Cigarette hull mold and using the 36 Cigarette deck mold. Became the "Top Gun" model. Won the US and World championships in 1981.

2. Became Cigarette Hawk after Jerry purchased Cigarette from Aronow, raced in 1982.

3. Then became Super Brut, after Faberge became the sponsor, raced in 1983. First race the 1983 New Jersey Offshore Grand Prix.

4. Then became Mystifier sometime, raced from ? to ?. Won the 1994 Key West Vee World Championship. Finished 3rd overall. Last race known to be in may be Miami 1n 1997? Finished 1st in in Modified in Islamorada's Rio Cristal in 1996.

Is this correct as far as you know?

[kidapache]

Hey Paul, there's a blast from the past. Haven't seen that boat brought up in years. No one has ever found it? Did anyone ever completely figure out Mystifier's lineage? I think the last time Charlie was looking into it, it went something like:

1. The second Ajac Hawk, 37'6" length, built and unveiled in 1978 in Argentina with Jerry Jacoby and Bobby Saccenti, raced from 1978 to 1981. Built by putting a block in the 39 Cigarette hull mold and using the 36 Cigarette deck mold. Became the "Top Gun" model. Won the US and World championships in 1981.

2. Became Cigarette Hawk after Jerry purchased Cigarette from Aronow, raced in 1982.

3. Then became Super Brut, after Faberge became the sponsor, raced in 1983. First race the 1983 New Jersey Offshore Grand Prix.

4. Then became Mystifier sometime, raced from ? to ?. Won the 1994 Key West Vee World Championship. Finished 3rd overall. Last race known to be in may be Miami 1n 1997? Finished 1st in in Modified in Islamorada's Rio Cristal in 1996.

Is this correct as far as you know?

yes ajack was the boat

[Ratickle]

Okay, I'm not absolutely positive, but I think our people have found it. From what I recall, and from re-reading some of Charlie's and others information, I believe the boat was unveiled as a 1979 model, but actually unveiled in 1978 in Argentina. I'll shoot Charlie an email. I also think FastDonzi may know a lot about the boat. Here's an older thread.

http://www.seriousoffshore.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11597

Mike may know if the inside was painted orange when it was redone black for the change from Cigarette Hawk to Super Brut. If so, this boat must be it. I'll get the sighting up and then I'll put in some of the comparison shots I have from the older configurations.

[Serious Sightings]

37′ CIGARETTE 376 CLASIC For Sale

Price: $18,500

Year 1979
Length 37' - 6"
NORTH MIAMI, Florida 33161
305-947-3278

Added by Xplode Powerboats
Listed in Cigarette Boats

http://www.xplodepowerboats.com/classifieds/listings/37-cigarette-376-clasic/

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[Ratickle]

My gut tells me this is the boat you're looking for, but the only way to find out for sure is to go look at it after we get some input from those familiar with the boat. How well do you know the setup of the engine compartment etc? I cannot currently believe there were two 1979 37'6" Cigarette raceboats. But.........

[Ratickle]

Here are some comparison pics from the other thread and from Cigarette Hawk and Ajac Hawk.

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[Ratickle]

I shot emails off to Charlie and Mike.

[Top Banana]

I shot emails off to Charlie and Mike.

Cigarette Hawk, the photo of the boat with racing number 8 is a 39 foot boat. This was the mold that Ajac Hawk was taken from after it was blocked down to 37.6 feet.

AJAC was the name of Jerry Jacoby's company that made transmission parts. The name was short for Arlene Jacoby.....Jerry's wife!

I cannot remember any other 37.6 Cigarette that was around in that era, 1978, 79, 80 or 81. Why not check the number on the transom to see the build date?

[FastDonzi]

Around 1985 I worked for "Trick Paint". We Re-Painted the Boat Black and put the name "Terminator" on it. Then it was Owned by C&G. Last I heard was, it got Confiscated. I don't know why, I don't see that they added any Big Deck Hatches. I had ALOT of Pictures of it but some Ho stole my truck and my whole Photo album of all the cool boats I painted was in it.

I always wondered where it went. You'd think being such a successful boat it would have been around more. There was another that looked just like it (When it had the AJAC Paint job) "Panama Hawk". Though they looked identical I think the Panama Hawk boat was 35'. I know it was faster. Richie Powers had it over 90. the Ajac was a mid 80mph boat at the time.

[FastDonzi]

That boat in the Pics from Xplode is Not it. Unless someone somehow sanded/Removed the 3 ribs off the deck. In the Ajac & Brut Pics the ribs run right down the middle of the strips. I guess it's possible they removed them, but if not, that's not it. IDK

[Ratickle]

Charlie is on his way back to Florida and will do some more research. Can you think of any 37'6" Cigs made in 1979? I've been digging and have not found another one yet. As Charlie said we'll try to get the HIN off of it.

[Ratickle]

Around 1985 I worked for "Trick Paint". We Re-Painted the Boat Black and put the name "Terminator" on it. Then it was Owned by C&G. Last I heard was, it got Confiscated. I don't know why, I don't see that they added any Big Deck Hatches. I had ALOT of Pictures of it but some Ho stole my truck and my whole Photo album of all the cool boats I painted was in it.

I always wondered where it went. You'd think being such a successful boat it would have been around more. There was another that looked just like it (When it had the AJAC Paint job) "Panama Hawk". Though they looked identical I think the Panama Hawk boat was 35'. I know it was faster. Richie Powers had it over 90. the Ajac was a mid 80mph boat at the time.

Wasn't Panama Hawk the original Ajac Hawk, the 35' that Jacoby raced before the 37'6"?

[kidapache]

weres airborn too that was a 1981 race

[Ratickle]

This is the only other 1979 38' race Cig I've been able to find so far, (but still digging). Once again a smooth deck.

http://www.boatloco.com/boats/showthread.php?t=65596

1979 Cigarette Race Boat Restored 2010 (Daytona) $69000

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38 Cigarette race boat. Full stagger setup, brand new 540 blower motors 900 hp, ext.boxes #3 drives race steering ,big trim tabs.This boat has been totally redone .It has a new paint job,brand new interior and guages.It comes with a target trailer.Will sell without power too for $40,000 .As with all mechanical items,this is an as is sale due to being a High Performance Race boat. Boat runs well over 100MPH. Call John Fisher at 386-275-5031

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[kidapache]

that was mine

[Ratickle]

Didn't Larry Goldman run Mystifier at one time?

[Ratickle]

Some more digging, based on the names on the boat of wrap1.com and 3mwraps.com...

Picture from the website of wrap1.com

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[Ratickle]

It is the only pic I can find on their site, but it's at least another lead to check.

[kidapache]

we should call larry goldman

[FastDonzi]

Larrys Buddy Gino aka Lubejobs42 (who owned the Mercedes MTI) owns the Wrap1 company.

[Ratickle]

I didn't know that. I'll get ahold of him, haven't chatted with him in awhile.

[kidapache]

and the red 38 race call airborne

[Ratickle]

I haven't heard back from Gino yet, but that's not unusual for him. Anybody try calling Larry yet?

[Serious News]

As Super Brut


http://youtu.be/hHapRKNnMv0

[Ratickle]

Weren't there two Super Brut's? The first one which was the old Ajac Hawk at 37'6" and then they built a 48 or something? I'll go digging to see if I can find it...

[FastDonzi]

I think Craigs next Racing adventure after the 37'6 was the 39' with the name Cigarette Hawk. I can't think of another Super Brut.

Some useless information : Al Segrini who raced the "Super Brut" Funny Car was Craig Barries best friend. The Fabrege' Brand is in Barries family, These Boating Buisness endevors are things he wants to do, not what he has to do (if you know what I mean :) )

[Ratickle]

The new A.P.B.A. Offshore Class 1 is the superboat category with the boats ranging from 45 to 50 feet in length overall and having unlimited power. Offshore Class 2 conforms to the international requirements for open boats. Here the boats are 30 to 50 feet in length with engines limited in size to 1,000 cubic inches.

Jerry Jacoby of Old Westbury, L.I., the former world and national champion, currently is building a 48-foot Cigarette called Super Brut to compete in the superboat class.

''I didn't want the superboats,'' Jacoby said. ''But they're here, and that's where the action is now. He said his new boat would be powered by three 750-horsepower Hawk engines giving Super Brut speeds of more than 100 miles an hour.



http://www.nytimes.com/1984/01/01/sports/offshore-racers-expand-slate-for-1984.html

[FastDonzi]

I don't think that ever happened. I worked on that street for years and don't recall seeing one. Or any 48' Cig for that matter.

[Madpoodle]

Those pictures look to be around the side of the same building Larry is in. I need to see him about something, will try and get by there this week if you like..

[FastDonzi]

Do It :)

[Ratickle]

I agree. Larry should know if it's the same boat. From all of my digging, I cannot find where there was a second one made in the 78-79-80 timeframe that was a 37 1/2.

[Ratickle]

I don't think that ever happened. I worked on that street for years and don't recall seeing one. Or any 48' Cig for that matter.

I can't find one either. Wonder what happened?

[Ratickle]

Those pictures look to be around the side of the same building Larry is in. I need to see him about something, will try and get by there this week if you like..

Did you make it over there Scott?