OBAMA's birth certificate.

[Tinkerer]

The real problem is he is not the legal president. He is NOT a natural born citizen.
To be president you have to be born on US soil and both parents have to be US citizens.
Right on the birth certificate it says that his father is an African citizen.
Lets see what the news media does on this.

[Enabler]

that wouldnt stop jayboat from sucking his dick like he was from canada instead of peace loving afreca

[saratoga stampede]

I am not an Obama supporter,,,but It ranks as one of the more startling sights in recent American history -- a U.S. president standing before the White House press corps offering proof he is actually a citizen of the nation he was elected to govern.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3g30VCl_cgk

President Obama took two years to obtain his original birth certificate. But most people will never be able to obtain their original birth certificate. For example, adoptees do not have acces as a rule to their original birth certificates. If birtherism were to become a statute across the country, then potentially 6 million to 10 million American adoptees would never be eligible to become president.

Lets go boating

[Tinkerer]

You don't have to be any supporter. He is NOT legally the president and he gave the proof needed to prove that.

Adoptees that can't prove their natural born citizen status can't be president.

Obama IS a citizen of the US - BUT he is NOT a natural born US citizen.

To be a presidential candidate you MUST be born on US property AND BOTH parents MUST be US citizens at the time of your birth.

OBAMA's father was a citizen of Africa.

[Ratickle]

I believe the only supreme court case to hear such an argument was in 1898 and they ruled that any person born in the US, even if both parents were foreign, is a natural born citizen. I don't think anything else has been heard after that to change that ruling.

The only exception they discussed, in what I've read. If one or both parents had a sworn allegiance to another nation, such as a foreign dignatary, it may be an exception.

I do believe they should change the rules so that to even run for President, you have to prove you meet the requirements ahead of time.

[Buoy]

I do believe they should change the rules so that to even run for President, you have to prove you meet the requirements ahead of time.

I like this part!

Not so much for the "natural born citizen" part, but, more so that they would have to prove they have the COMPETENCY to run the country, not a snazzy campaign full of unbelievable and unrealistic empty promises to fuel their own ego trip.

[Fountain38SC]

So is it a fake? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7s9StxsFllY

[600sci]

So is it a fake? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7s9StxsFllY

I say yes, because in pre 70 they did not use any tipewriters on anything there.
They are all hand written ! just sayin.

[Wrinkleface]

I think it makes the whole thing look even more suspicious that it took this long 2 "produce"???? U would think if he was a true proud American he would have had it out day 1????? I think the Donald thing got "something moving"????? I have heard there R people in this world that make fake documents !!!!!!':dupe:

[Tinkerer]

raticle - When McCain was running against Obama the dems made him prove he was legal to run. They said he wasn't a US citizen because he was born in the panama canal on a military base. It went to the supreme court and they ruled that He was born on a military base ( US soil ) and both of his parents were US citizens.
The Constitution states that in order to be president one MUST be born on US property and both parents MUST be US citizens. Obamas's father was not a US citizen at the time of his birth. I wonder if this disqualifies him for reelection??? We will find out if anyone has any balls on the conservitave side...

[clayinaustin]

All you birthers need to just give it up! If the Clintons couldn't prove he is not eligible to be president, then no one can! :)

[clayinaustin]

http://home.comcast.net/~sharonday7/Presidents/AP0601.htm

4. Is there anything that specifies that only the 3rd generation of an immigrant family could be elected as president?

No. The president must only be "natural born," that is born a citizen. His parents may be born elsewhere. Both of Andrew Jackson's parents were born in Ireland, for example.

[clayinaustin]

:party:

[ROGUE]

Well, they killed someone, and then quickly disposed of the body so it can never be checked. Oh, but then again, the white house said it was osama so it must be.

[600sci]

Well, they killed someone, and then quickly disposed of the body so it can never be checked. Oh, but then again, the white house said it was osama so it must be.

:boobflash:

[Tinkerer]

Clay - Citizen is NOT the same as natural born. READ the Constitution.

[Tinkerer]

Clay - citizen is not the same as natural born citizen, The supreme court stated that a presidential candidate must be natural born - That means he must be born on US soil and both of his parents MUST be US citizens.

[600sci]

Clay - citizen is not the same as natural born citizen, The supreme court stated that a presidential candidate must be natural born - That means he must be born on US soil and both of his parents MUST be US citizens.

YEp...wonder how he will proof this..but hey maybe he kills the still alieve Adolf Hitler next ..or something ...HAHAHA:banghead:

[fund razor]

Both parents must be US citizens to be "natural born?"
The Supreme Court has ruled on this?

[600sci]

Both parents must be US citizens to be "natural born?"
The Supreme Court has ruled on this?

I actualy think YES..because my Mother has gotten the US citizenship before i was born here in 1971 just for that matter acording to my Dad !

[fund razor]

I had always assumed one parent, but I can't find anything that makes that distinction. Everything says plural, "parents." (Which would go along with your experience)
Although I did find a really old ruling that gave precedent to the father's country. That interpretation would make him an African.

[600sci]

I had always assumed one parent, but I can't find anything that makes that distinction. Everything says plural, "parents." (Which would go along with your experience)
Although I did find a really old ruling that gave precedent to the father's country. That interpretation would make him an African.

That is ecsactly why he is actually an illegal president, but kind of nobody is worried about it ..just funny !:confused:

[Tony]

Anyone else around here born during the late 50s early 60s have a birth certificate that looks anything close to what they are showing?

[Bobcat]

My original, (which was given to my mom at the hospital and has my baby footprints) Is no longer valid .....I used it to get in the USAF.....and it was good enough for a top secret clearance...is no longer good for anything....I had to get a new one from Vital Statistics....and it looks like Obongo's !:huh:

[fund razor]

Mine is the old style.
It states the occupations of my parents, my religion, my doctor, and the only statistical proof that I am not a bastard. ;)

[Bobcat]

:biggrinjester:

[600sci]

well, since we are born in the USA ..i awsume..it can't look like a fake one from the islands?!

On the islands they did not use any machines to write at that time ..even mine from General Hospital in Columbus GA USA is written by hand in 1971!

[Donskihp]

I'm Born in Va 1954 & mine looks nothing like the one Obama's produced. Mine also had my foot print on it too.

[rschap1]

I have certificate with hand and foot ink prints from the hospital, but my actual certificates have seal from the county health department. I got additional copies a few years ago and they look just like the original that my folks had. My kids look just like mine from way back too.

[clayinaustin]

For some people (like 600sci) there will never be enough proof the Obama is a natural born citizen. Fortunately the rest of us will focus on real issues.

Forget this "Birther" nonsense and let's find a great Republican candidate who can beat Obama in 2012!

[600sci]

For some people (like 600sci) there will never be enough proof the Obama is a natural born citizen. Fortunately the rest of us will focus on real issues.

Forget this "Birther" nonsense and let's find a great Republican candidate who can beat Obama in 2012!

HAHAHA, you start to sound like Jay now...:willy_nilly::sifone:

[fund razor]

For some people (like 600sci) there will never be enough proof the Obama is a natural born citizen. Fortunately the rest of us will focus on real issues.

Forget this "Birther" nonsense and let's find a great Republican candidate who can beat Obama in 2012!

There are people who think things are odd that aren't birthers.

I think that the idea for any candidate to provide proof of natural citizenship before the election is a good one. Saves all of this distraction, all around.

It's too late to worry about whether he was a legitimate candidate.

Now is the time to worry about whether he is a socialist.

[Buoy]

Now is the time to worry about whether he is a socialist.

You imply that this is still a question?
I was of the impression that this was clearly stated by his actions already.:huh:

[Boss460]

The real problem is he is not the legal president. He is NOT a natural born citizen.
To be president you have to be born on US soil and both parents have to be US citizens.
Right on the birth certificate it says that his father is an African citizen.
Lets see what the news media does on this.

Look up Chester A. Arthur.

130 years and still not a peep from anyone about his dad being an Irish citizen.

[Tinkerer]

What does the past matter. This is the law today... AND when he was elected.

[600sci]

What does the past matter. This is the law today... AND when he was elected.

:iagree:

[TCEd]

Age and Citizenship requirements - US Constitution, Article II, Section 1

No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty-five years, and been fourteen years a resident within the United States

[Ratickle]

Clay - citizen is not the same as natural born citizen, The supreme court stated that a presidential candidate must be natural born - That means he must be born on US soil and both of his parents MUST be US citizens.

Actually the only case that the court clearly ruled on the case of Citizen vs. Natural Born Citizen they ruled the opposite. The minority in the case wrote a rebuttal almost exactly like what you are stating. But, they were still the minority and lost.

United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898): In this case, the majority of the Court held that a child born in U.S. territory to parents who were subjects of the emperor of China and who were not eligible for U.S. citizenship, but who had "a permanent domicile and residence in the United States, and are there carrying on business, and are not employed in any diplomatic or official capacity under the emperor of China" was a U.S. citizen.
The Court stated that:

The constitution nowhere defines the meaning of these words [citizen and natural born citizen], either by way of inclusion or of exclusion, except in so far as this is done by the affirmative declaration that 'all persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States.'[21]

Since the Constitution does not specify what the requirements are to be a "citizen" or a "natural born citizen", the majority adopted the common law of England:

The court ruled:

It thus clearly appears that by the law of England for the last three centuries, beginning before the settlement of this country, and continuing to the present day, aliens, while residing in the dominions possessed by the crown of England, were within the allegiance, the obedience, the faith or loyalty, the protection, the power, and the jurisdiction of the English sovereign; and therefore every child born in England of alien parents was a natural-born subject, unless the child of an ambassador or other diplomatic agent of a foreign state, or of an alien enemy in hostile occupation of the place where the child was born. III. The same rule was in force in all the English colonies upon this continent down to the time of the Declaration of Independence, and in the United States afterwards, and continued to prevail under the constitution as originally established.

[Tinkerer]

Recent law takes precidence does it not???
The last ruling on this was when The dems said McCain was NOT eligible to be president because he wasn't born on US soil. ( he was - Panama military base IS US soil ) The court ruled that he was a natural born citizen.

[Tinkerer]

TCEd - natural born citizen OR a citizen of the US when This constitution was adopted.

[fund razor]

Look up Chester A. Arthur.

130 years and still not a peep from anyone about his dad being an Irish citizen.

Everybody was focused on Garfield's assasination?

[Bobcat]

So now Odie's in charge ????:huh:

[rschap1]

Someone is in charge ? ? ?