Monster engine pkg

[THEJOKER]

Who knows about this?

[Griswald]

:driving:

[Steve 1]

Helpern had the Hemi-Chevy Combos in his Cobra Race shop back in the late 70's we were there talking about some contract work.
The drive looks like an effort to make another surface drive but who knows the gain, when you add up the gear loss after moving the transmission output shaft? each time there is a penalty paid.

[Chummy]

looks impressive, what is it going in?

[Bobcat]

looks like a jet drive.

[HaxbySpeed]

Looks like it's a duo prop drive, I think that's the outer shaft only.. I like the little tiny oil pan under that monster. :)

[Wrinkleface]

Wowzer!!!!

[Coolerman]

looks like an 8-71 blower? Pretty cool EFI and the rest of the motor to only have an 8-71......

[phragle]

drives a weismann???

http://www.weismann.net/Press%20Pages/2008/WeismannDuoProp.htm

http://www.weismann.net/images/Marine/WDP/wdp%20on%20back%20of%20patrol%20boat.jpg

[Steve 1]

Nice setup for a single engine boat.

[Chris]

Looking at the gimbal, I wonder how you steer it.

[MacGyver]

Looking at the gimbal, I wonder how you steer it.

Good catch.

[Wobble]

I doubt the motor and drive go together. The motor looks like a drag race setup with nitrous.

[Chris]

I doubt the motor and drive go together. The motor looks like a drag race setup with nitrous.

That's a 16-injector throttle body on top.

I don't know much about nitrous but don't they typically inject it into the manifold runner?

That transfer case is a work of art.

[shifter]

That is the new Arias LS hemi heads/BDS blower with EFI on a 468 cid smallblock.

The drive is the (WDP) dual prop but in its bpm type setup as a single shaft/trim only. It will have the skeg removed and be center rudder.

We have one less set of gears compared to a #6 and they are all spur so the efficiency is MUCH better and everything is drysump. That is including the offset box.

Depending on the hull configuration I would remove the offset box and just run straight into the drive. The offset box is from one of our inline packages or a cat style installation.

pat W:USA:

[Steve 1]

That is the new Arias LS hemi heads/BDS blower with EFI on a 468 cid smallblock.

The drive is the (WDP) dual prop but in its bpm type setup as a single shaft/trim only. It will have the skeg removed and be center rudder.

We have one less set of gears compared to a #6 and they are all spur so the efficiency is MUCH better and everything is drysump. That is including the offset box.

Depending on the hull configuration I would remove the offset box and just run straight into the drive. The offset box is from one of our inline packages or a cat style installation.

pat W:USA:

Pat Bellows or ball joint behind the gimbal ?

[Chris]

Pat- what's the story on the offset box?

[phragle]

Those are some loooong rockers...

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p173/xjjf1015x/photo-3.jpg

http://www.bpeheads.com/LS%20Hemi.jpg

[Chris]

Tack another 4 cylinders on there and you'd have something!

[shifter]

Steve, Bellows. I looked at the ball but it has to be very precise with the gimbal. Pain to assemble but nicer seal.

Chris, We make those to set the engine where it fits the best then you put the drive where it needs to be and the offset box does the rest. We went up 5.5 and down 4.5 and over 1.25 on a project recently... and mirrored it on the other side...

The ones in the pic are 13.5 offset and FNR. We make them all different ways.

The v16 is easy...

pat W

[Steve 1]

Pat your 4 motor setup would have been very cool in the Popeye 50 as we had the drive line from the front motor like 12 degrees outboard past the rear engine to the tail stock.

[shifter]

One of the first boats I worked on was 4 engine superboat.. It would be fun to do again.

Come on Steve just knock out a hull and I will get the guts sorted.:sifone:

pat W

[Steve 1]

One of the first boats I worked on was 4 engine superboat.. It would be fun to do again.

Come on Steve just knock out a hull and I will get the guts sorted.:sifone:

pat W

Pat I could not think of a better combo for a Cheetahcat.

[Chris]

You make it all look so easy.

Like tossing an 800 lb block of aluminum in a mill and turning it into artwork. And 700 lbs of chips.

[shifter]

400 lbs to 22...

Steve I did not say this was my favorite set up. Here is a 3.4 ltr V6 twin turbo 850 hp. 365 lbs. How about a 5.5ltr Judd V10.....

pat W

[Chris]

Wow.

[Steve 1]

400 lbs to 22...

Steve I did not say this was my favorite set up. Here is a 3.4 ltr V6 twin turbo 850 hp. 365 lbs. How about a 5.5ltr Judd V10.....

pat W


365 lbs !!!!!!!!!You know how fast one of my 38 footers would run with those??

[shifter]

Someday we should find out...like I said you get the boat I will fill it. Lets see that is 4 Judd V10's @ 135kg each 12500 rpm 750 hp......2 of my drives @ 315 each.....the math is good on this combo...

pat W:bump:


the 22 lb case turns into an offroad rear diff with CV joints back to back, I like them non anodized.

[Steve 1]

Someday we should find out...like I said you get the boat I will fill it. Lets see that is 4 Judd V10's @ 135kg each 12500 rpm 750 hp......2 of my drives @ 315 each.....the math is good on this combo...

pat W:bump:


the 22 lb case turns into an offroad rear diff with CV joints back to back, I like them non anodized.

The numbers are better than Good, They are Unreal and the mass hanging off the transom becomes a non issue with your drive, less than outboard weight. Neat stuff very cool!

[Chris]

the 22 lb case turns into an offroad rear diff with CV joints back to back, I like them non anodized.

I bet those are like a hundred bucks each!
;)

[MacGyver]

Someday we should find out...like I said you get the boat I will fill it. Lets see that is 4 Judd V10's @ 135kg each 12500 rpm 750 hp......2 of my drives @ 315 each.....the math is good on this combo...

pat W:bump:


the 22 lb case turns into an offroad rear diff with CV joints back to back, I like them non anodized.

12500 RPM :willy_nilly::driving:

[Wobble]

That's a 16-injector throttle body on top.

I don't know much about nitrous but don't they typically inject it into the manifold runner?

That transfer case is a work of art.

My bad, just glanced at it. Assumed it was a throw-together to illustrate the gear case.

[Chris]

In the linked pic Pat has a Whipple with direct-port on it.

[C_Spray]

...Judd V10's @ 135kg each 12500 rpm 750 hp...
315 ft-lbs? Why not just use an Alpha.....? ;)

Cool stuff here.

More on the Arias package from the PRI trade show:

[Chris]

Chuck- Any idea on price on the head package? Or is it complete engines only?

The LS is a strong performer. Is there really that much benefit to be had with the Hemi heads? What's their intended target with the heads package?

[shifter]

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This from Arias's site. I do not have a cost but you can contact them to get it.

There is a figure 8 port design as well as the hemi that can be machined in the heads. It all depends on what you are looking for in performance.

pat W

[Steve 1]

Chevy should have did that back in the day instead of crying like baby's and making the Hemis carry more weight in the NHRA as punishment for their being of a superior design and making more horsepower. I do not like the winning from their office technique.

[Mange]

Chevy should have did that back in the day instead of crying like baby's and making the Hemis carry more weight in the NHRA as punishment for their being of a superior design and making more horsepower. I do not like the winning from their office technique.

Yes!

and together with the new 3.6L (or 4.2L) Kenne Bell screw :USA:
(I going with the new 4.2L on my 572, and K.Bell is off course..... Swedish ****.. :sifone: )

Would be great with a 6.0L Arias HEMI, would fit our Swedish national series with SCi. :)