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Dangerous Dave
02-18-2010, 10:32 PM
So I have an 85 28 ciggie with TRS drives, mild small blocks. 355 ci. stock heads, mild marine cams, 750 holleys, Stainless marine exhaust with 4 inch through hull tailpipes dry until the tip, crossovers, no thermostats, and thunderbolt 4 ignition. I'm thinking of doing bigger Comp Cams that make good power up to 6000 rpm's and decent aluminum heads and all the appropriet valve train components. Question is: Would the boat greatly benefit or would I be throwing a ton of money at only a few more mph? Would my money be better spent converting to bravos?

Chris
02-18-2010, 10:58 PM
The Bravo conversion soulns like as great idea. You'll lose a ton of weight, gain some space in the engine compartment and get a much more advantageous X dimension. Plus you'll pick up some gains due to less parasitic loss. No downside. Plus you can then really see gains when you start working on the engines.

J-Bonz
02-18-2010, 11:11 PM
the bravo conversion soulns like as great idea. You'll lose a ton of weight, gain some space in the engine compartment and get a much more advantageous x dimension. Plus you'll pick up some gains due to less parasitic loss. No downside. Plus you can then really see gains when you start working on the engines.

+1

Rik
02-19-2010, 01:43 AM
Bravo conversion sounds good.

Trim'd Up
02-19-2010, 09:29 AM
Bravo conversion sounds good.

Now that's cool! What's in it? How do the Arneson's work out on the 28 cig?

straightpriority
02-19-2010, 09:52 AM
holy chit... thats badass

Tony
02-19-2010, 10:53 AM
Theres a guy in Cleveland who has built 3 28 Cigs, all with 500ish hp. sbcs. Two have been TRS boats and one was a Bravo. The Bravo boat was running close to 90 and the TRS, in the low 80's. The CG is way diffferent (obviously) causing the boat to ride much more level which I dont think he particularly cared for. Even after shedding a ton of weight on my last re rig the attitude of the boat is totally different. One good thing about a Bravo conversion on theese boats is that by ditching the tranny and tailstock you can actually change a water pump without having to strip both engines.


Rik, more details man!

Geronimo36
02-19-2010, 10:54 AM
Those Arnesons look sweet on the back of that 28'!

Are there any Cig 28's out there with Bravo conversions done already? Only thing I'd check into is the difference in center of gravity and balance of the boat.


Tony just responded to what my question was... lol

old377guy
02-19-2010, 03:06 PM
Bravo conversion sounds good.

yeah, but those Arnesons look fantastic!!!

Rik
02-19-2010, 03:24 PM
Those Arnesons look sweet on the back of that 28'!

Are there any Cig 28's out there with Bravo conversions done already? Only thing I'd check into is the difference in center of gravity and balance of the boat.


Tony just responded to what my question was... lol


That is a 28' Cigarette :D

The CG does not change from a Bravo boat the the Arneson boat. The CG does change to the good from a TRS to Arnesons as the engines will mount aft in the boat as they do with a Bravo install.

This boat was originally a TRS boat that had a TRS to Bravo conversion and then the owner (Bret Jones) converted the boat to Arnesons.

Boat has been over 100 but he had some supercharger issues and decided to scrap the Vortec's instead of having to purchase new ones.

Smarty
02-19-2010, 08:09 PM
That is a nice Cigarette. I like that set-up

Tony
02-20-2010, 12:31 AM
Rik, was this at one time the "Livorsi" 28?

Rik
02-20-2010, 01:31 AM
??

J-Bonz
02-20-2010, 03:33 AM
Bravo conversion sounds good.

Rik,
That is one cool Cig but I still love this one........... :cheers2:

Tony
02-20-2010, 09:30 AM
??


There was a 28 at one time that had 500 efis, and boxes, forget the drives offhand.

glassdave
02-20-2010, 09:36 AM
There was a 28 at one time that had 500 efis, and boxes, forget the drives offhand.

:eek: . . . . light the fuse and keep steering :D

Chris
02-20-2010, 10:03 AM
The OSO Bicycle had Bravos on it. Balance was just fine.

bigboat28
02-20-2010, 12:14 PM
Both of those are sweet 28's

Dangerous Dave
02-20-2010, 08:12 PM
Tony, did you ever get your boat dialed in? I removed my recirculating pumps and installed crossovers and that helps a little with the water pump changing but you still might as well be doing it blindfolded.

Thanks for the info guys. Maybe I'll start accumulating all the parts and do the motors AND drives next winter. Prime florida boating season is way to close to do the drives. If I win the lotto tonight I'm definately doing the Arnesons.

MarylandMark
02-20-2010, 08:55 PM
holy chit... Thats badass

+1!!!!

northernoffshore
02-20-2010, 10:21 PM
Rik, was this at one time the "Livorsi" 28?

It sure looks like the old livorsi boat. the pic is my old 28, I wish it had bravos , the trs and trans weight and drive depth held it back. It had sbc 400's, never liked the way the big block boats handled and the way they were nearly sinking at the docks.

Tony
02-21-2010, 11:59 AM
[QUOTE=Dangerous Dave;443871]Tony, did you ever get your boat dialed in? I removed my recirculating pumps and installed crossovers and that helps a little with the water pump changing but you still might as well be doing it blindfolded.

QUOTE]

I finally got it put back together late last summer, engines needed some changes, there back out right now. Hopefully by this spring I'll get the ***** setup right.

ironfist1011
02-22-2010, 08:52 PM
Those Arnesons look sweet on the back of that 28'!

Are there any Cig 28's out there with Bravo conversions done already? Only thing I'd check into is the difference in center of gravity and balance of the boat.


Tony just responded to what my question was... lol
I have a 28' Cigarette with Arneson conversions. They work great!

Tony
02-24-2010, 10:09 AM
Welcome to Serious. How about posting some pics of your 28?

insanity
02-24-2010, 10:29 AM
Rik,
That is one cool Cig but I still love this one........... :cheers2:

The Sheepherder??? Who was the joker that photoshopped that on there? :sifone:

Rik
02-24-2010, 02:15 PM
Welcome to Serious. How about posting some pics of your 28?

The 28' in the photos I attached is his boat. :cheers2: