Brown for President next?

[JupiterSunsation]

After being a Senator for a short time, coming out of the liberal state of Massachusetts in a landslide take over the of a democrat's seat (since 1953!) could this guy be Obama's replacement?

Bet he won't choose Palin for a running mate.........:ack2:

[Audiofn]

Lets see how he does as a Senator first. This guy is good but still very unproven. To be fair I would have to hold him to the same standard that I hold/criticise Obama's rise to power, that being he is still an unknown! He is not with out his issues in the past with voting very liberally on things like health care. Now I think he may have learned his lesson with the mess we are dealing with in Mass so hopefully he can bring something to the table down in washington. Time will tell. He certainly has the gift of gab!

[Indy]

My first thought upon seeing and listening to him is he'll be POTUS some day.

[clayinaustin]

He did a centerfold for Cozmo many years ago. U.S. Senator is as high as he will go.

[Birdog]

He did a centerfold for Cozmo many years ago. U.S. Senator is as high as he will go.

Why ?..Draft dodgers,lyers, crooks, all get in...Americans dont care about morals and such....It's just "What will they give ME"....

I do agree that we dont know sqat about this guy. Probably just as bad as the rest. Kudos to Mass. though..One hell of a statement !

[clayinaustin]

Kudos to Mass. though..One hell of a statement !

Agreed! :D

[Geronimo36]

Pretty impressive that he won, especially in Mass... Besides, I can get used to looking at his daughters! :)

i_k5tOcMuRA

[Tommy Gun]

Bet he wouldn't have a problem showing everyone his birth certificate.

[MarylandMark]

Pretty impressive that he won, especially in Mass... Besides, I can get used to looking at his daughters!

+1 on all accounts!!

The kool aid runneth empty!

[JupiterSunsation]

My first thought upon seeing and listening to him is he'll be POTUS some day.

He took a Kennedy seat in Mass. as a Republican! Go back 10 years and ask the population if that would ever happen and you would get a 99% no chance answer!

I like the guy and think you all will see him in the White House some day! (provided there is no huge underlying scam out there that hasn't been uncovered yet!) :sifone:

[Rich]

I like the guy and think you all will see him in the White House some day! (provided there is no huge underlying scam out there that hasn't been uncovered yet!) :sifone:[/QUOTE]

You can rest assured that had there been something out there, it would certainly have been exposed by now. The Dems tried and tried to find something on him.... Oh how they tried.....

Don't forget this state is 3-1 Democrat. Even the Dems were having buyers remorse, as evidenced by this election.
My God , Teddy must be rolling in his grave..:sifone:

[Ted]

Don't forget this state is 3-1 Democrat. Even the Dems were having buyers remorse, as evidenced by this election.
My God , Teddy must be rolling in his grave..:sifone:

Spinning, I suspect, in fact it may be what caused the second Haitian earthquake:ack2:

[Tommy Gun]

Spinning, I suspect, in fact it may be what caused the second Haitian earthquake:ack2:

And contributing to global warming.

[Sea-Dated]

He has almost as much experience as our current POTUS.....

[LotoSteve]

Glad he won but he is still too liberal for my taste....but...I can see a Romney/Brown ticket in 2012.

[Sea-Dated]

Only problem with a Romney/Brown ticket is that a lot of America will not like both the POTUS and the V-POTUS being from Mass.

[Steve 1]

The Guy is an American and Qualified!

http://www.votesmart.org/bio.php?can_id=18919




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[Ms PatriYacht]

Below is some background info on him, I am sure he is not perfect, but it does appear that he has a solid track record in both his personal and political life. After replacing a Dem in the MA government, he was re-elected three times, one time he ran unapossed and the other time won by a large margin. Couple that with the fact that he came from a troubled home, has been active in the Nat'l Guard for 30 years, put himself through college with revenue from modeling gigs, has long history of envolvement in charitable organizations, and is an extremely accomplished athlete. I would say that it appears he is more than just a pretty face:biggrinjester: Too soon to say what will happen but I wish him well and hope we will be hearing more from him soon.

Early life and non-political career
Brown's father, C. Bruce Brown and mother,[1] Judith,[12]divorced when he was about a year old. Both his parents have since remarried three times. Brown grew up in Wakefield, Massachusetts, spending his summers in Newberryport, Massachusetts where his father, served as a city councilor for 18 years. Both his father and his grandfather were Republicans. His father has said that young Scott became interested in running for political office in the mid 1960's while accompanying him on a campaign for state office; Scott Brown recalls holding campaign signs for his father.[13][12]

Brown has said that he "didn't grow up with all the advantages in life" and that his working mother needed welfare benefits for a short time. [14] During various periods of his childhood, Brown also lived with his grandparents and his aunt. Brown has stated that as a youth he was involved in some violence related to sticking up for his mother, and at the age twelve was brought before Judge Samuel Zoll in Salem, Massachusetts for shoplifting record albums. Zoll asked Brown if his siblings would like seeing him play basketball in jail, and[1] required him to write a 1500 word essay on the topic as his punishment.[11] Brown said, "That was the last time I ever stole, the last time I ever thought [about stealing... The other day I was at Staples, and something was in my cart that I didn’t pay for. I had to bring it back because.... I thought of Judge Zoll."[1]

Brown graduated from Wakefield High School in 1977[10] and then earned a Bachelors of Arts from Tufts University, in 1981. He received a Juris Doctor from Boston College Law School in 1985.[15]

He joined the Massachusetts Army National Guard when he was 19, receiving his basic training at Fort Dix, New Jersey.[1] Brown has said the rescue efforts of Guard members during the blizzard of 1978 left a lasting impression on him. He attended ROTC (Reserve Officers' Training Corps) at Northeastern University.[16] He has been active with the Guard for about 30 years and holds the rank of Lieutenant Colonel. Serving as the Army Guard's head defense attorney in New England, he assists the Judge Advocate General's Corps out of Milford, defending Guard members who have legal difficulties such as positive drug tests.[12]

Brown has been deployed to Kazakhstan for two weeks and to Paraguay for one week. He has said, "I go where they order me to go... I'm just proud to serve and be part of the team."[12] He wishes to stay in the Guard in the future, but he will be unable to do so given the service's mandatory retirement at age 50. He has expressed disappointment at this rule, remarking that "I'm probably one of the most qualified soldiers in the entire Massachusetts [Guard].... I have enlisted service, I have infantry, quartermaster, JAG, I'm airborne qualified, I’ve been to all the courses".[1] Brown received the Army Commendation Medal for meritorious service in homeland security shortly after the 9/11 attacks.[10]

Political career
Brown began his political career in 1992, when he was elected to be an assessor in Wrentham, Massachusetts. At that time, he "caught the political bug.[12] In 1995, he was elected to the Wrentham Board of Selectmen, and was elected to the Massachusetts House of Representatives for the 9th Norfolk District in 1998.

After incumbent Democrat Cheryl Jacques resigned, Brown was elected to the Massachusetts Senate in a special election on March 2, 2004, against Angus McQuilken, a top Jacques aide. Brown was re-elected as state senator on November 2, 2004, and again on November 7, 2006 without opposition. He also won re-election in November 2008, defeating Democratic candidate Sara Orozco by a 59 - 41 percent margin. In the Massachusetts Legislature, Brown serves on the Joint Committee on Consumer Protection & Professional Licensure, the Joint Committee on Education, Joint Committee on Election Laws, the Joint Committee on Higher Education, the Joint Committee on Public Safety, and the Homeland Security Joint Committee on Veterans & Federal Affairs.[15]

In February 2007, Brown was invited to speak at King Philip Regional High School in Wrentham, Massachusetts as part of a debate on gay marriage. During the presentation, Brown defended himself and his daughter Ayala against several attacks by the high school students, who had launched a Facebook group attack. During his appearance, Brown directly quoted several of the vulgar statements made against his family and announced the names of King Philip students who had written the statements.[17]
Organizational associations and honors
Brown is a 30-year member of the Massachusetts National Guard, in which he currently holds the rank of lieutenant colonel in the Judge Advocate General's Corps. Brown was awarded the Army Commendation Medal for meritorious service in organizing the National Guard to quickly support homeland security following the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001.[45][46] LTC Brown has also completed Airborne School and been awarded the Meritorious Service Medal.

A member of the Massachusetts Bar Association, Brown is also involved in the Wrentham Lions Club, United Chamber of Commerce, North Attleboro/Plainville Chamber of Commerce, Neponset Valley Chamber of Commerce, and USA Triathlon Federation. He serves as a Board Member of the 495/MetroWest Corridor Partnership Inc., and serves on the Hockamock YMCA Board of Incorporators.[citation needed]

Brown has received the "Public Servant of the Year" Award from the United Chamber of Commerce for his leadership in reforming the state's sex offender laws and protecting the rights of victims.[citation needed] Brown's family has helped raise funds for such organizations as The Horace Mann Educational Associates, Wrentham Developmental Center, Charles River Arc, and the Arc of Northern Bristol County, all for the care and support of those with developmental disabilities. He has also been recognized by the National Federation of Independent Businesses (NFIB) for his work in creating an environment that encourages job growth and expansion in Massachusetts.[citation needed]

For the 2010 Senate race, Brown was supported by the Greater Boston Tea Party group [47], which organized a January 2, 2010 fundraising breakfast for him in Boston, which he attended.[48] Eleven days later, the Boston Globe reported that Brown claimed he was unfamiliar with the Tea Party movement. When told that different people labeled him a conservative, moderate and a liberal Republican, he responded “I’m a Scott Brown Republican.”[49] The Tea Party Express [50] has endorsed Brown's campaign. While MoveOn.org, a liberal organization, endorsed Coakley. [51]

Personal life
Family
Brown is married to WCVB-TV reporter Gail Huff; they have two daughters, Ayla Brown, an American Idol semi-finalist and star basketball player at Boston College, and Arianna Brown, a competitive equestrian and pre-medical student at Syracuse University. The couple owns a 3,000-square-foot primary home, a 2,000-square foot summer home in Rye, New Hampshire, three condos in Boston, and a timeshare on the Caribbean island of Aruba.[1][52][53] They live in Wrentham, Massachusetts.

Religion
Brown and his family worship at New England Chapel in Franklin, a member of the Christian Reformed Church in North America. They also have a relationship with an order of Cistercian Roman Catholic nuns at Mt. St. Mary’s Abbey in Wrentham. The Brown family has raised over $5 million for the order, helping to install solar panels, a wind turbine and a candy manufacturing plant that the order operates. Sister Katie McNamara has said of the family, "[w]e pray for them every day".[1]

Sports
Brown is a champion long-distance runner, bicyclist, and swimmer. He has won several awards and trophies competing in triathlons and duathlons, but because of an intense schedule he cut back from frequent exercising during his 2009-2010 Senate campaign.[12]

Scott Brown has also played basketball since a young age. He was a senior co-captain at Wakefield High School, earning there the title of Middlesex League MVP. He continued in the sport at Tufts University, "where he was known for his long outside jumpshots". There, Scott Brown acquired his sport nickname, "Downtown Scotty Brown".[1]

Modeling
In June 1982, Brown, then a 22-year-old law student at Boston College, posed nude [54][12] in a Cosmopolitan centerfold as the winner of the magazine's "America's Sexiest Man" contest, using the earnings towards paying for college. In the interview, he referred to himself as "a bit of a patriot" and stated that he had political ambitions.[54][12] Brown has also worked as an actor in his early career,[12] appearing in a variety of television commercials.[1]
Organizational associations and honors
Brown is a 30-year member of the Massachusetts National Guard, in which he currently holds the rank of lieutenant colonel in the Judge Advocate General's Corps. Brown was awarded the Army Commendation Medal for meritorious service in organizing the National Guard to quickly support homeland security following the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001.[45][46] LTC Brown has also completed Airborne School and been awarded the Meritorious Service Medal.

[phragle]

left or right...you guys are so incredibly addicted to the politcal crack pipe its unreal...

[Steve 1]

left or right...you guys are so incredibly addicted to the politcal crack pipe its unreal...

I guess you have not looked around and have seen what fine shape the major Boat builders are in then!:rolleyes: with this Democrat rule starting in 06.

[Tommy Gun]

left or right...you guys are so incredibly addicted to the politcal crack pipe its unreal...

I'm happy that you are content with the economy and direction of our Country. There are a few that think it is time for some REAL change and a new direction. Americans are often criticized for their politcal indifference; I'm happy to see more people becoming aware of whats going on. I much prefer educated voters and debate vs. what happened in the last election. Of course you always have the option to choose what you read.

[tunnelvision69]

left or right...you guys are so incredibly addicted to the politcal crack pipe its unreal...

I would love to get back to spending time on other issues but right now we must be involved to save our country. I don't stare at my security system all day but when a foreigner breaks in & tries too take my stuff security gets my attention!!

[LotoSteve]

left or right...you guys are so incredibly addicted to the politcal crack pipe its unreal...

Its called being an informed voter.......:rolleyes:

[phragle]

Did I at anytime say I was content or happy with the current state of things?? Did I ever say I didn't ****ing care? What I am talking about is the difference between a good guard dog and a rabid mut that smells blood. Just because a repubilcan said "god bless you" after his secretary sneezed doesn't make him the next presidential candidate... Just because the WhiteHouse maid told TMZ that Obama had skid marks in his boxers last week doesn't mean the world is going to end....

[VtSteve]

I think Brown will surprise many, and madden many as well. He is a pragmatic thinker, unusual nowadays, and hated by the fringes. He's already gearing up for how he could reshape the health reform more to his liking. He likes it a lot already. Heck, he supported Romney's plan, which was pretty outrageous. Supported by McCain as well ;)

I think he'll do fine, but he's a newbie, and it will take time to learn the ropes. I think if the right wingers think he's a rubber stamp, they need to look at his position on term limits and the people. A welcome addition. For every Delay and Pelosi that can be led out the door, the better off we'll all be.

[Steve 1]

"reshape the health care reform" ,Your Kidding ? Hell NO !! THAT Evil Commie Monstrosity needs trashed!! We need Tort Reform ,But the Kenyan here has cut a deal with the Ambulance chasers so they get a pass on regulation. McCain!!!!!!!!!! Ha Ha Ha he is part of the problem!

[VtSteve]

"reshape the health care reform" ,Your Kidding ? Hell NO !! THAT Evil Commie Monstrosity needs trashed!! We need Tort Reform ,But the Kenyan here has cut a deal with the Ambulance chasers so they get a pass on regulation. McCain!!!!!!!!!! Ha Ha Ha he is part of the problem!

Steve, did you ever sit back and wonder where the massive savings from tort reform were in the useless package presented that was scored by the CBO? Like pi$$ing in the ocean. The massive savings are nowhere to be found. If you followed the stock market this week, you'd see who was happy. Their earnings and cash flow were being scored as well.

If you heard Brown discuss things today, you'd probably not like what he had they say. The only people you don't think are part of the problem are hopefully not electable. It will probably take another ten years before the costs of healthcare seriously impair the country, and cause a backlash unheard of. It will take at least that amount of time before a politician can say, and be heard, that we can't afford whatever it is we have now.

Pragmatic thinkers will rule the day then, because partisans will be voted out, on both sides. The desperate cries of financial woes from the Boomer generation will drown out all of the fringe groups.

If McCain's health care proposal was ever passed, we'd have that happen a lot sooner.

[Steve 1]

Steve, did you ever sit back and wonder where the massive savings from tort reform were in the useless package presented that was scored by the CBO? Like pi$$ing in the ocean. The massive savings are nowhere to be found. If you followed the stock market this week, you'd see who was happy. Their earnings and cash flow were being scored as well.

If you heard Brown discuss things today, you'd probably not like what he had they say. The only people you don't think are part of the problem are hopefully not electable. It will probably take another ten years before the costs of healthcare seriously impair the country, and cause a backlash unheard of. It will take at least that amount of time before a politician can say, and be heard, that we can't afford whatever it is we have now.

Pragmatic thinkers will rule the day then, because partisans will be voted out, on both sides. The desperate cries of financial woes from the Boomer generation will drown out all of the fringe groups.

If McCain's health care proposal was ever passed, we'd have that happen a lot sooner.

The very fact you mentioned McCain speaks Volumes?? BTW who did you vote for Obama? I am catching the Lefty drift here!

Evidently you Missed the Doctor in his crowd celebrating at election headquarters last night and his saying None of them want this ,What they want is the Legal system checked; Tort reform!! and the clapping that followed!! this health care bill is Illegal and Unconstitutional FYI Cheers.

[phragle]

Tort reform... I laugh at your misguidedness. The lawyers are doing their job. they are representing their client to the fullest extent they can. Thats their job. it was what they are trained, certified and paid to do. The real problem is with the judges. The judges are not dismissing frivolous cases, the judges are allowing ridiculous awards. If you hired a lawyer, and he didn't go after everything possible and as aggressively as possible, you would be biothcing and hiring another lawyer to sue the first lawyer for not fully representing you. A lawyer just says "you wronged my client and you owe him" The judge is the one who actually decides if the wrong has merit, allows the case to go forward and approves the award. Hell you could sue Obama for failing to represent your interests.. find a lawyer somewhere to take the case.. but the judge decides if the case goes foreword, and if a jury awards you 70 billion dollars, that judge can go ahead and reduce that award to 50 cents.... If your going to biotch about the system at least educate yourself to the point that you understand what your biotching about instead of spewing rhetoric.

[Steve 1]

Tort reform... I laugh at your misguidedness. The lawyers are doing their job. they are representing their client to the fullest extent they can. Thats their job. it was what they are trained, certified and paid to do. The real problem is with the judges. The judges are not dismissing frivolous cases, the judges are allowing ridiculous awards. If you hired a lawyer, and he didn't go after everything possible and as aggressively as possible, you would be biothcing and hiring another lawyer to sue the first lawyer for not fully representing you. A lawyer just says "you wronged my client and you owe him" The judge is the one who actually decides if the wrong has merit, allows the case to go forward and approves the award. Hell you could sue Obama for failing to represent your interests.. find a lawyer somewhere to take the case.. but the judge decides if the case goes foreword, and if a jury awards you 70 billion dollars, that judge can go ahead and reduce that award to 50 cents.... If your going to biotch about the system at least educate yourself to the point that you understand what your biotching about instead of spewing rhetoric.

Dude shake the Cob webs out ,We have but 4.5 % of the earths population and 66 % of the Lawyers!!! The Democrat party is the party of YOU Listening???? LAWYERS Lawyers and More Lawyers Got it ? then go on and explain why the medical field pays so much for Insurance?? and Why the Breck Girl Edwards made 26 Million 4 Years before he was a Senator driving doctors away.. But then Who really pays?? You and I do for People like this creep.

[Tommy Gun]

While I am a proponent of tort reform, it is only a small part fo the reform necessary to lower health care costs...

When President Barack Obama addressed Congress earlier this year on health care reform, one of the concessions he made to lawmakers who oppose his efforts was to experiment with tort reform on a state level. States eager to rein in health care costs have already been engaging in tort reform, however, with mixed results.

In Missouri, tort reform was enacted in 2005, placing a cap of $350,000 on non-economic damages such as pain and suffering. A pair of doctors who supported the limits on jury awards to people who suffer medical malpractice told the Lincoln Journal Star that they had seen their malpractice insurance premiums drop from 24 to 30 percent.

While that's good news for doctors, patients in Missouri continue to see health care costs rise. The same is true in states that enacted even more severe limits on malpractice awards, such as Texas.

Why Doesn't Tort Reform Deliver Lower Costs?

The biggest reason plummeting medical malpractice insurance premiums don't result in a corresponding drop in health care costs for the average person is that malpractice insurance is a tiny part of the overall cost of care. Reliable estimates place the cost of malpractice litigation at approximately two percent of this nation's $2.2 trillion health care costs.

Because Missouri issues regular reports on medical malpractice, it's easy to track the changes in malpractice lawsuits in recent years.

From 2006 to 2007, the number of paid malpractice claims increased from 514 to 719 before declining last year to 564. From 2005 to 2006, the average awards to victims of malpractice in the state declined 15.9 percent (from $253,000 to $213,000). Awards fell another 8.5 percent in 2007 and then rose by 3.8 percent in 2008.

The director of Missouri's Department of Insurance, Financial Institutions and Professional Registration said that claim payments are less than 20 percent of overall health insurance premiums.

While the debate over health care reform is far from over, the numbers tell a clear story: tort reform lowers doctors' costs and awards to victims of malpractice, it hasn't resulted in lowered health care costs for the rest of us.

[BUIZILLA]

glad he won but he is still too liberal for my taste....but...i can see a romney/brown ticket in 2012. :usa:

[Steve 1]

While I am a proponent of tort reform, it is only a small part fo the reform necessary to lower health care costs...

When President Barack Obama addressed Congress earlier this year on health care reform, one of the concessions he made to lawmakers who oppose his efforts was to experiment with tort reform on a state level. States eager to rein in health care costs have already been engaging in tort reform, however, with mixed results.

In Missouri, tort reform was enacted in 2005, placing a cap of $350,000 on non-economic damages such as pain and suffering. A pair of doctors who supported the limits on jury awards to people who suffer medical malpractice told the Lincoln Journal Star that they had seen their malpractice insurance premiums drop from 24 to 30 percent.

While that's good news for doctors, patients in Missouri continue to see health care costs rise. The same is true in states that enacted even more severe limits on malpractice awards, such as Texas.

Why Doesn't Tort Reform Deliver Lower Costs?

The biggest reason plummeting medical malpractice insurance premiums don't result in a corresponding drop in health care costs for the average person is that malpractice insurance is a tiny part of the overall cost of care. Reliable estimates place the cost of malpractice litigation at approximately two percent of this nation's $2.2 trillion health care costs.

Because Missouri issues regular reports on medical malpractice, it's easy to track the changes in malpractice lawsuits in recent years.

From 2006 to 2007, the number of paid malpractice claims increased from 514 to 719 before declining last year to 564. From 2005 to 2006, the average awards to victims of malpractice in the state declined 15.9 percent (from $253,000 to $213,000). Awards fell another 8.5 percent in 2007 and then rose by 3.8 percent in 2008.

The director of Missouri's Department of Insurance, Financial Institutions and Professional Registration said that claim payments are less than 20 percent of overall health insurance premiums.

While the debate over health care reform is far from over, the numbers tell a clear story: tort reform lowers doctors' costs and awards to victims of malpractice, it hasn't resulted in lowered health care costs for the rest of us.

Obama will not touch the lawyers like the unions they give him huge dollars.

[phragle]

Good job of attempting to defelect reality. emember De-nile is a river in Egypt. no award is is given without the judge approving it. no frivilous case moves foreward without the judge approving it. politics is all about creating laws, rules, regulations etc.. so a lot of politicians are lawyers. If politics involved milking cows, I suspect a lot of farmers would be in office. Why does the medical field pay so much for insurance? because judges allow huge awards. If you want to change the world, put your friggin name on the ballot. Grandstanding on your soapbox infront of a bunch of boaters on the internet will only serve to fuel your selfimage. If you want to cause change, then put yourself in a position to due so. Your like a guy who complains that the food at the local diner sucks, yet you go back to the diner everyday and still complain..even though everyday you walk through the doors you pass a big sign that says "cook wanted inquire within"

[Steve 1]

Good job of attempting to defelect reality. emember De-nile is a river in Egypt. no award is is given without the judge approving it. no frivilous case moves foreward without the judge approving it. politics is all about creating laws, rules, regulations etc.. so a lot of politicians are lawyers. If politics involved milking cows, I suspect a lot of farmers would be in office. Why does the medical field pay so much for insurance? because judges allow huge awards. If you want to change the world, put your friggin name on the ballot. Grandstanding on your soapbox infront of a bunch of boaters on the internet will only serve to fuel your selfimage. If you want to cause change, then put yourself in a position to due so. Your like a guy who complains that the food at the local diner sucks, yet you go back to the diner everyday and still complain..even though everyday you walk through the doors you pass a big sign that says "cook wanted inquire within"

NO I guess you have never heard of "Jackpot Justice" LOL do try to catch up!!

[VtSteve]

Fact is, if all legitimate case were filed, and bogus ones were not, they'd really be in trouble.

Thanks for the facts though, they generally track the insurance department here as well.

Not a big deal.

Good for investors.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Score-One-for-the-GOP-indie-3769981798.html?x=0&.v=1

[phragle]

NO I guess you have never heard of "Jackpot Justice" LOL do try to catch up!!

Does not exist without a JUDGES approval. PERIOD. I work in healthcare. If I ****ed up and say as a result you lost your leg, you would find a lawyer and sue for everything you could get. a jury may award you $20mil... the judge has the power to reduce it to 1 mill, 500k or if he thinks you lost your leg because you refuse the antibiotics you werespposed to take, drop that jackpot to $1.00 and we haven't even begun to delve into the insurance co.'s using the settlements as a scare tactic to hide behind while increasing rates to increase profits.... Catch up? you havent even figured out which way to go, much less catch up....

[phragle]

Simple fact is the lawyers job is not to determine right from wrong, it is to represent their client.

[phragle]

And Steve... just so there is no confusion,
I have no beef with you personally. I simply disagree with your opinion that tort reform will solve the ills of society....

[VtSteve]

The very fact you mentioned McCain speaks Volumes?? BTW who did you vote for Obama? I am catching the Lefty drift here!


I guess like everything else, you missed this part.

http://www.azcentral.com/members/Blog/EJMontini/72023
"New Mass. senator already campaigning for McCain




Talk about fast.

This after noon a pre-recorded message was left Wednesday on the phones of thousands of Arizonans (including me) supporting the re-election of U.S. Sen. John McCain.

What’s interesting about the robocall is that the person speaking is Scott Brown, the Republican upstart elected to the U.S. senate from Massachusetts.

Here is the complete text:

BROWN: “Hello this is newly elected United States Senator Scott Brown from Massachusetts and I’m honored at the role that your senator John McCain played in my election yesterday. When few thought that I had a chance of winning, John stood by me and supported my campaign. He was the first one. I want to thank him for his support of me, and I want to encourage you to continue to support John. I look forward to joining him as he fights against wasteful spending and a government takeover of your health care. Please call his campaign today at 602-604-2010 and tell John what a great job he’s doing. Thank you for your time.”
WOMAN’S VOICE: “This call has been paid for by friends of John McCain.”

[Steve 1]

I guess like everything else, you missed this part.

http://www.azcentral.com/members/Blog/EJMontini/72023
"New Mass. senator already campaigning for McCain




Talk about fast.

This after noon a pre-recorded message was left Wednesday on the phones of thousands of Arizonans (including me) supporting the re-election of U.S. Sen. John McCain.

What’s interesting about the robocall is that the person speaking is Scott Brown, the Republican upstart elected to the U.S. senate from Massachusetts.

Here is the complete text:

BROWN: “Hello this is newly elected United States Senator Scott Brown from Massachusetts and I’m honored at the role that your senator John McCain played in my election yesterday. When few thought that I had a chance of winning, John stood by me and supported my campaign. He was the first one. I want to thank him for his support of me, and I want to encourage you to continue to support John. I look forward to joining him as he fights against wasteful spending and a government takeover of your health care. Please call his campaign today at 602-604-2010 and tell John what a great job he’s doing. Thank you for your time.”
WOMAN’S VOICE: “This call has been paid for by friends of John McCain.”

Why would you support McCain?? The Open Border Amnesty McCain Dude I got to stop!

[VtSteve]

You'll have to ask your newfound friend Scott Brown why he supports McCain, a good friend of his, and dear supporter.

[Steve 1]

You'll have to ask your newfound friend Scott Brown why he supports McCain, a good friend of his, and dear supporter.

McCain he is hated among Americans ,Hell I would vote for Simcox long before that Traitor RINO McInsane/McQueeg.

[Wobble]

McCain he is hated among Americans ,Hell I would vote for Simcox long before that Traitor RINO McInsane/McQueeg.


I voted for McCain, I respect him as a man and as a politician. His choice of running mates is another matter.

[Steve 1]

I voted for McCain, I respect him as a man and as a politician. His choice of running mates is another matter.


Nice try his selection saved his butt!

Gee tough choice here, one wants to follow the Constitution and One Has been working for generations to trash it!!

[Steve 1]

You'll have to ask your newfound friend Scott Brown why he supports McCain, a good friend of his, and dear supporter.

You must have voted for Butch Napolitano then!!

[Steve 1]

http://i45.tinypic.com/192hef.jpg

[Steve 1]

Arizona Hayworth is the conservative choice!

[phragle]

REmember to buy property in Arizona. when the big one hits and California falls into the ocean, you will have beachfront property!!!!

[Steve 1]

REmember to buy property in Arizona. when the big one hits and California falls into the ocean, you will have beachfront property!!!!

LMAO!!:party:

[2112]

The director of Missouri's Department of Insurance, Financial Institutions and Professional Registration said that claim payments are less than 20 percent of overall health insurance premiums.



Am I reading this wrong? Which claims, malpractice or for health services?

.

[Tommy Gun]

Am I reading this wrong? Which claims, malpractice or for health services?

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Since this is the preceding paragraph...

From 2006 to 2007, the number of paid malpractice claims increased from 514 to 719 before declining last year to 564. From 2005 to 2006, the average awards to victims of malpractice in the state declined 15.9 percent (from $253,000 to $213,000). Awards fell another 8.5 percent in 2007 and then rose by 3.8 percent in 2008.

Malpractice claims.

[Birdog]

McCain he is hated among Americans ,Hell I would vote for Simcox long before that Traitor RINO McInsane/McQueeg.

I dont agree with his politics but that man has EARNED respect !

He has sacrificed more for his country than you will ever give. Calling him childish 3rd grade names makes YOU look like a buffoon.....

[Steve 1]

You'll have to ask your newfound friend Scott Brown why he supports McCain, a good friend of his, and dear supporter.

Dude he is a liberal Republican!

[fund razor]

McCain he is hated among Americans ,Hell I would vote for Simcox long before that Traitor RINO McInsane/McQueeg.

In an insanity contest, McCain couldn't even come close to you.
And he was a prisoner of war for like 5 years. :)

[fund razor]

I think that a poll regarding when Steve1 will ultimately snap and commit multiple sociopathic offenses would be more interesting than these political threads have been.

I say... next Tuesday at noon.

[Steve 1]

I dont agree with his politics but that man has EARNED respect !

He has sacrificed more for his country than you will ever give. Calling him childish 3rd grade names makes YOU look like a buffoon.....

Really Open Border Gods children John here ?? The LMAO Maverick is that right?? Got news that means half a Republican or Traitor to the party a Quisling !! Exactly where were you in the McCain-Kennedy Amnesty Back Stab of America ?? That single event fractured the Conservative Base and gave Leftys the House, McCain is Absoutly Hated people sat out the elections because of him.. Yeah good mentality there :rolleyes::rolleyes:you forget Benedict Arnold was a Good military officer.

"I have to tell you, Obama is a decent person, a person that you
do not have to be scared of as president of the United States."
U.S. SEN. John McCain, 10 OCT. 2008


"I think the Democratic Party is a fine party, and I have
no problems with it, in their views and their philosophy."
U.S. SEN. John McCain, 02 APR. 2004

Vote for J.D. HAYWORTH 2010


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[Steve 1]

I think that a poll regarding when Steve1 will ultimately snap and commit multiple sociopathic offenses would be more interesting than these political threads have been.

I say... next Tuesday at noon.

Same chance of that as you making a Logical Political Statement,Mr. Hope and Change!

[Steve 1]

In an insanity contest, McCain couldn't even come close to you.
And he was a prisoner of war for like 5 years. :)


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[Steve 1]

I dont agree with his politics but that man has EARNED respect !

He has sacrificed more for his country than you will ever give. Calling him childish 3rd grade names makes YOU look like a buffoon.....


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[Chris]

I was once uninformed on the truth behind the immigration issue. But after learning the truth behind it, I've taken a different outlook.

The first is that both political parties turned their heads on enforcement for years. The GOP as their supporters wanted the cheap labor and the Dems as they liked thet "feel-good" aspect, and they liked the potential for millions of voters if it played their way.

So now things get tight and we want to cast these people overboard? Like most problems, we ignored dealing with it until the rational solutions are unworkable. Five years ago, we could have approached this with a "you work/you stay" system. But we decided to politicize it and with that came the demonization of these people. And the easy way to do that was to label them as the brown scourge that's stealing from us.

I have a tough time discarding them. Like I wrote yesterday, I didn't mind the cheap lettuce. and I'm not going to hate them or be angry with them. it was the people WE voted into office that allowed the problem to occur.

[Steve 1]

Deporting them? That is no problem increase the fines the Employers pay and maybe pull their License, Shut off the money they will Self Deport, We have a mechanism in place for immigration they need to use it. 30 Million just given citizenship for being here illegally and the damage they do No!

[Ted]

Let's not get too rational there Chris, Steve will put you on the commie list....

[phragle]

I wonder what would happen if politicians spent more time honoring their constituents and less time honoring their party...

[fund razor]

Next Phragle will suggest that they honor their marriages and oathes of office. :)

[Tommy Gun]

The problem isn't the cheap labor, its the education and health care support neccessary by the state and local goverments; as a result our taxes go up so we pay for it one way or another.

[VtSteve]

Dude he is a liberal Republican!

Then Scott Brown, who is campaigning and supporting McCain, is as well.
Sen.-elect Scott Brown (R-MA), who won his seat in last night's special election, has already recorded a robo-call for Sen. John McCain's (R-AZ) re-election campaign.

Brown's campaign confirmed that he recorded the call, which asks voters to call McCain and thank him for supporting Brown. The number goes to Friends of John McCain, the senator's campaign.

McCain is facing an election this November. He may also find himself vulnerable in the Republican primary if the more conservative J.D. Hayworth challenges him.

A reader from Arizona who received the call tells us that Brown praises McCain for supporting him when no one else would. Brown also says he's ready to go to Washington and fight against a government takeover of health care.

McCain endorsed Brown Jan. 4.

[Steve 1]

I wonder what would happen if politicians spent more time honoring their constituents and less time honoring their party...

Exactly!:cheers2:

[fund razor]

Meanwhile, while we were chatting the Supreme Court struck down a 63 year old law designed to restrain unions and big business from aggressively backing candidates and special interests. They also struck down McCain-Feingold.

The losers? Us.

The winners? Every TV station in the US, as the potential up-to-the-last-minute commercials will be unrestricted. Buy as much as you can afford.

[TCEd]

McCain he is hated among Americans ,Hell I would vote for Simcox long before that Traitor RINO McInsane/McQueeg.

Hate is a very strong word. It seems you use that word a lot.

[jayboat]

He took a Kennedy seat in Mass. as a Republican! Go back 10 years and ask the population if that would ever happen and you would get a 99% no chance answer!

I like the guy and think you all will see him in the White House some day! (provided there is no huge underlying scam out there that hasn't been uncovered yet!) :sifone:

I love this kind of stupidity.

Jon Stewart sums it up:

"Scott Brown is now apparently the 45th president of these United States Of America! Wooo! Yeah baby! Welcome. It has been a long, incredibly grueling couple of days since we first heard of this man. And now he's in charge of everything."

[Steve 1]

Hate is a very strong word. It seems you use that word a lot.

Hell it is true!

[jayboat]

Meanwhile, while we were chatting the Supreme Court struck down a 63 year old law designed to restrain unions and big business from aggressively backing candidates and special interests. They also struck down McCain-Feingold.

The losers? Us.

The winners? Every TV station in the US, as the potential up-to-the-last-minute commercials will be unrestricted. Buy as much as you can afford.

yeah, no chit. It ain't like they were really having problems spending the money before. Maybe they won't need the lobbyists as much, but that doesn't feel like much of a win. :mad:

[Steve 1]

Jay relax the Best is yet to come!:sifone:

[clayinaustin]

I love this kind of stupidity.

Jon Stewart sums it up:

"Scott Brown is now apparently the 45th president of these United States Of America! Wooo! Yeah baby! Welcome. It has been a long, incredibly grueling couple of days since we first heard of this man. And now he's in charge of everything."

Jon Stewart and The Daily Show rock! :D

P.S. I love having Steve1 on "ignore". If everyone ignores him, maybe he will go away. :p

[Wobble]

I wonder what would happen if politicians spent more time honoring their constituents and less time honoring their party...

Why then they would be back in their constituencies and would likely miss numerous symbolic and or irrelevant votes which in turn would lead to them losing their office on account of a poor voting record.:sifone:

[Geronimo36]

I love this kind of stupidity.

Jon Stewart sums it up:

"Scott Brown is now apparently the 45th president of these United States Of America! Wooo! Yeah baby! Welcome. It has been a long, incredibly grueling couple of days since we first heard of this man. And now he's in charge of everything."

Sounds a little bit like Obama......:toetap05:

But...I think Glenn Beck said it better; "Brown, congratulations on your victory... But, be warned that we'll all be watching you when you get to Washington, we'll be watching your every move."

[jayboat]

P.S. I love having Steve1 on "ignore". If everyone ignores him, maybe he will go away. :p

We can hope. :)

[Ratickle]

Meanwhile, while we were chatting the Supreme Court struck down a 63 year old law designed to restrain unions and big business from aggressively backing candidates and special interests. They also struck down McCain-Feingold.

The losers? Us.

The winners? Every TV station in the US, as the potential up-to-the-last-minute commercials will be unrestricted. Buy as much as you can afford.

Yeah, doesn't that suck.....:boxing_smiley:

[Ratickle]

Five years ago, we could have approached this with a "you work/you stay" system. But we decided to politicize it and with that came the demonization of these people.


We have a mechanism in place for immigration they need to use it.

We need to change it. There is no reason a visitor work system cannot be put in place like almost every other advanced country. You have a job lined up, you work, you pay taxes, you do not get citizenship. If you lose your job, you go home. Can't be all that tough, we decide to politicize these things instead of fixing them by using a little common sense.

[JupiterSunsation]

I love this kind of stupidity.

Jon Stewart sums it up:

"Scott Brown is now apparently the 45th president of these United States Of America! Wooo! Yeah baby! Welcome. It has been a long, incredibly grueling couple of days since we first heard of this man. And now he's in charge of everything."

I wouldn't call it stupidity......IT IS FACT HE TOOK TEDDY THE DRUNK'S SEAT!

Democrats and photographers live in a world named D E N I A L ! ! !

Americans got swindled into electing Mr. Marketing when in fact he has done nothing productive. I liked Clinton and hated the stupidity of G.W. Bush but voted for McCain simply because Obama was the unknown, from the unknown promising the world to the minorities.

Jay you are closing you eyes and SCREAMING OBAMA without looking at the facts......enjoy the next 3 years because your boy is going to be U N E M P L O Y E D ! ! ! :rolleyes:

This last Massachusetts election is the crystal ball showing Americans are tired of Democrap!

[JupiterSunsation]

i dont agree with his politics but that man has earned respect !

He has sacrificed more for his country than you will ever give. Calling him childish 3rd grade names makes you look like a buffoon.....

+1

[VtSteve]

Back to that Pragmatic Thinking thing again :iagree:

If voters, and Congress, looked at each serious issue as a problem to solve, we'd be a lot further ahead on these things.

Unfortunately, most of those people have been led out of town on a rail, or snuck out when convenient.

[VtSteve]

I wouldn't call it stupidity......IT IS FACT HE TOOK TEDDY THE DRUNK'S SEAT!

Democrats and photographers live in a world named D E N I A L ! ! !

Americans got swindled into electing Mr. Marketing when in fact he has done nothing productive. I liked Clinton and hated the stupidity of G.W. Bush but voted for McCain simply because Obama was the unknown, from the unknown promising the world to the minorities.

Jay you are closing you eyes and SCREAMING OBAMA without looking at the facts......enjoy the next 3 years because your boy is going to be U N E M P L O Y E D ! ! ! :rolleyes:

This last Massachusetts election is the crystal ball showing Americans are tired of Democrap!

McCain lost the election (in part), due to many of the very same people that kept Bush in office. He remained in office because he ran against people stupider than himself. But as long as you have people that lie and tear down a McCain, nothing will change.

But as you can see, there are many Republicans, and Democrats, left that are content to tear down anyone and everything that doesn't fit their own specific mild. Regardless of how big a failure their ideas have been in the past, they move forward. Dubya was like that, so are Pelosi and Reid, and many others.

Clinton was a masterpiece comparatively.

My expectations are that the financial troubles with the states are so severe, the economy will fall and limp along for much of the decade. With idiots on both sides, the only thing people can do is to bet against them all.

[Chris]

We need to change it. There is no reason a visitor work system cannot be put in place like almost every other advanced country. You have a job lined up, you work, you pay taxes, you do not get citizenship. If you lose your job, you go home. Can't be all that tough, we decide to politicize these things instead of fixing them by using a little common sense.

The only problem is now that we invited them here and utilized their labors, we no longer have jobs for them. That and the Dems are drooling over turning them into citizens and voters. Dem voters.

[Expensive Date]

I love this kind of stupidity.

Jon Stewart sums it up:

It has been a long, incredibly grueling couple of days since we first heard of this man. And now he's in charge of everything."




Jay he has almost twice the experience as Palin and you are still not happy.:bump:

[Chris]

Jon Stewart sums it up:

"Scott Brown is now apparently the 45th president of these United States Of America! Wooo! Yeah baby! Welcome. It has been a long, incredibly grueling couple of days since we first heard of this man. And now he's in charge of everything."

Sounds alot like how we ended up with Barack Obama. Just that quick.

Wanna' see something funny? Lay Brown's resume next to Obama's.


Where's the Nobel commission? They're dragging their feet.

[Tommy Gun]

Want to see some good stuff...go here and click on the Special Comment - Keith Olbermann's name calling video. If I knew how to imbed it I would...it's classic.


http://www.thedailyshow.com/

[Geronimo36]

We need to change it. There is no reason a visitor work system cannot be put in place like almost every other advanced country. You have a job lined up, you work, you pay taxes, you do not get citizenship. If you lose your job, you go home. Can't be all that tough, we decide to politicize these things instead of fixing them by using a little common sense.

It already exists....illegal immigrants just don't utilize it and/or their skills don't qualify as "specialized" or "skilled".

TN Visa work permits are one of the easiest to obtain thanks to the NAFTA agreement... Any Canadian Citizen or Mexican Citizen can work here with a permit for as long as they please.. All they have to do is show up at the border with an employment letter, TN Letter which explaining the tasks they will be responsible for and they get the stamp of approval and enter the US and are paid the same as you and I and pay taxes just like you and I. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TN_visa

Next, H-1B Visa's have been in existance for many years... Again, if the employer is willing to pay for it (rougly $4K to sponsor, includes lawyer fee's and visa processing), they can work in the US for a total of 3 years, extendable for an additional 3 yrs... Also, if they are under H-1B and have filed for a greencard, the visa is automatically extended until the GC is approved.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H-1B_visa

How do I know all this? I do it for a living. :cheers2:

So my point is, these things already exist but the system is broken and people are doing it illegally and should face the consequences of being deported or businesses loosing their license...:bump:

[clayinaustin]

Want to see some good stuff...go here and click on the Special Comment - Keith Olbermann's name calling video. If I knew how to imbed it I would...it's classic.

http://www.thedailyshow.com/

I know that many people here want to dismiss Jon Stewart as just another leftist liberal, but he is so much more than that. I record and watch every episode. The Daily Show rocks! :-)

[Tommy Gun]

Stop it Clay, you're scaring me.

[clayinaustin]

Stop it Clay, you're scaring me.

Ha Ha! You scare easily! :D

[Chris]

What scares me is that so many Americans turn to Jon Stewart for their news. Have we as a nation become so brain-dead that we have to be tricked into paying attention to events around us? It's pretty sad when news has to be hidden inside of comedy routines and satire to get people exposed to it. Like hiding an aspirin in applesauce so the three-year-old will take it.

[phragle]

have you watched the 5 oclock news lately?? it's become a joke unto itself...

[VtSteve]

The Guy is an American and Qualified!

======

Almost thrown under the bus inside a couple of days, but not under the wheels yet. I think it pays to get daily updates on the multitude of positions, then come up with a monthly average, or simply adopt the position last stated.

In 2008 and last year, Volcker was a villain, a complete imbecile. Greenspan was a genius for low rates, until he wasn't. Barney Frank was the guy responsible for the world's meltdown, before new villains were found. Deregulation was all important, before it became Barney's fault for blocking it. Executive compensation is a huge issue, but we'll have to wait to see who comes up with a good answer, or no answer at all, before we form an opinion on it.

The Wall Street and overall bank issues will be fun to watch, and probably more interesting and informative on Stewart's show. Thank goodness Brown hates regulation, and thinks we need far less of it. At least through this past Tuesday he did.

But poor Scott, he went from being a true conservative to a liberal Republican in two days flat. Quite remarkable :willy_nilly:

[Steve 1]

Almost thrown under the bus inside a couple of days, but not under the wheels yet. I think it pays to get daily updates on the multitude of positions, then come up with a monthly average, or simply adopt the position last stated.

In 2008 and last year, Volcker was a villain, a complete imbecile. Greenspan was a genius for low rates, until he wasn't. Barney Frank was the guy responsible for the world's meltdown, before new villains were found. Deregulation was all important, before it became Barney's fault for blocking it. Executive compensation is a huge issue, but we'll have to wait to see who comes up with a good answer, or no answer at all, before we form an opinion on it.

The Wall Street and overall bank issues will be fun to watch, and probably more interesting and informative on Stewart's show. Thank goodness Brown hates regulation, and thinks we need far less of it. At least through this past Tuesday he did.

But poor Scott, he went from being a true conservative to a liberal Republican in two days flat. Quite remarkable :willy_nilly:

Why would that matter here since you supported Clinton?

[clayinaustin]

What scares me is that so many Americans turn to Jon Stewart for their news. Have we as a nation become so brain-dead that we have to be tricked into paying attention to events around us? It's pretty sad when news has to be hidden inside of comedy routines and satire to get people exposed to it. Like hiding an aspirin in applesauce so the three-year-old will take it.

I totally agree with you on this one. However, Jon Stewart and The Daily Show get their rating by using comedy. They don't have to cater to the left (MSNBC) or the right (FoxNews). They are free to say anything they wish and not worry about looking foolish, because they already are foolish.

Stewart's admonishment of Olbermann is a prefect axample of this...

"Olbermann, you can't stoop to name calling! That's my job!" :D

I believe that you will get a more "fair and balanced" news story from The Daily Show than you ever will from Fox News! :rolleyes: