DLP vs. Plasma

[clayinaustin]

Best Buy has six Mitsubishi DLP HDTV (http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olstemplatemapper.jsp?_dyncharset=ISO-8859-1&_dynSessConf=6933330141602002727&id=pcat17080&type=page&lcn=TV+%26+Video&sc=TVVideoSP&st=processingtime%3A%3E1900-01-01&usc=abcat0100000&cp=1&sp=%2Bcurrentprice+skuid&nrp=15&qp=crootcategoryid%23%23-1%23%23-1%7E%7Ecabcat0100000%23%234%23%23wu%7E%7Ecabcat0101000%23%237%23%236d%7E%7E cabcat0101001%23%230%23%233j%7E%7Enf312%7C%7C50726f6a656374696f6e&pagetype=listing) sets ranging from $1100 for the 60-inch to $4000 for the 82-inch! :eek:

The Plasma HDTVs are double in price.

How does a DLP HDTV compare to the Plasmas?

[MarylandMark]

How does a DLP HDTV compare to the Plasmas?

One is a hell of a lot eaiser to hang on a wall... :sifone:

[Audiofn]

Clay you have to go look at them. DLP is a very different tachnology that works very well. Invented by Texas Instuments and has been refined well over the last few years. It is kind of a stop gap between Plasma and LCD. One of the biggest complaints is the depth of the displays. They can be quite a bit deeper. They are a good bang for the buck set up.

[Tommy Gun]

I have a 50 inch Mitsubishi DLP. It is about three years old now and has worked flawlessly...picture is very good. I used it in a location where I had the depth (it is recessed in a wall and replaced an old projection TV), and to save some $$$ over a plasma.

[clayinaustin]

One is a hell of a lot eaiser to hang on a wall... :sifone:


Clay you have to go look at them. DLP is a very different tachnology that works very well. Invented by Texas Instuments and has been refined well over the last few years. It is kind of a stop gap between Plasma and LCD. One of the biggest complaints is the depth of the displays. They can be quite a bit deeper. They are a good bang for the buck set up.

I am looking to replace my 55-inch 1080i Mitsubishi projection HDTV, so I have plenty of room. I do not want or need to hang my next HDTV on the wall.

I will want to place the HDTV on top of a stand and put my Harmon Karmon receiver as well as my DirecTV HD/DVR receiver and a Blu-Ray player inside the stand. A flat-screen HDTV is not necessary.

I believe that 1080p will be the standard for a long time, so I want the best 58-inch to 63-inch 1080p HDTV for the price. :D

[Audiofn]

IMO worth a look.

Jon

[MarylandMark]

I believe that 1080p will be the standard for a long time, so I want the best 58-inch to 63-inch 1080p HDTV for the price.

In my research, the DLP's were the best "value". This summed it up perfectly:

DLP provides the best size to dollar ratio. For the money, DLP provides the highest quality and largest television you can buy. If you are able to find a cheaper Plasma of the same size, it is very unlikely that the picture quality will not be comparable to the DLP of a similar price.

http://www.home-theater-automation-and-electronics.com/DLPvsPlasma.html

[Tommy Gun]

Is that a double negative??? Unlikely not be comparable????

[BillR]

DLP's are rear projection. They do look good, but maybe a little soft as compared to a plasma.
"Some" people see rainbow effects (google DLP rainbow) and don't care for them.
DLP seems to be fading away some - but it is good value for size vs $$$.
No way it will hang on the wall though.


Clay: if you can't tell the difference in TV's in a showroom, there is NO WAY you are going to see the difference between 1080i & 1080p. If 1080p is the only reason you have to move up - save your money! In fact, most sets the "upconvert" everything to 1080p have such a lousy processor, the 1080p sets look worse then the 1080i sets. Please don't fall into the spec or numbers trap! These MFG's use lots of smoke and mirrors to arrive at their numbers.

[2112]

SO Bill, what do you recommend?

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[clayinaustin]

"Some" people see rainbow effects (google DLP rainbow) and don't care for them.

from An Introduction to DLP - Digital Light Processing (http://tv.about.com/od/projectiontv/a/dlpintroduction.htm)

What is Rainbow Effect? How does it apply to DLP?

Rainbow Effect is to DLP what screen door effect is to LCD. It is a side effect of the refracted light, but is only seen by some of the people who watch DLP televisions. Online encyclopedia Wikipedia describes Rainbow Effect “as brief flashes of perceived red/blue/green ‘shadows’ observed most often when the projected content features bright/white objects on a mostly dark/black background (an example would be the scrolling end credits of a movie).” It is important to note that only one-chip DLP televisions are susceptible to Rainbow Effect.

How does DLP compare LCD, LCOS, and Plasma?

It is safe to argue that DLP offers the best picture of the four ‘high-end’ television types. Of all the technologies, LCOS is probably the closest to DLP, but the future for LCOS is shaky so the comparison is somewhat moot at this time. Many people feel LCD has a brighter picture, and Plasma has a reputation as being the Rolls Royce of televisions. Aside from walking into an electronics store and comparing the pictures of various models side-by-side, how do you know what picture is best for you? The bottom line is you don’t.

[X-Rated30]

Just bought the Mitsubishi 65 inch DLP. GREAT picture and paid $1800 after taxes. Definitely the way to go dollar for dollar if you don't have to hang it.

[Trim'd Up]

I have a a 65" Mitsu DLP that I bought about 2 years ago and have no complaints. The picture is excellent and it's still only about 18" deep. It has a better pic than the plasma that I have in the basement.

[MarylandMark]

SO Bill, what do you recommend?

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Lot of good info here:

http://www.seriousoffshore.com/forums/showthread.php?p=377281

Not speaking for Bill, from 11/27/09 for a 46-50" for a living room:


NuVision 47FX5

Pioneer Elite pro 101

LG 50PG80

From today:


LG 50PQ30 - nice set $899
LG 50PS60 - 1080p $ 1300
LG 50PS80 - NICE! $ 1500

The Panasonic Premere is nice but hard as heck to find.

Also the LG 47SL80 looks good too! $1599

Thanks again to our Audiophile experts!

[BillR]

Thanks Mark,
Saved me some typing.

[Wobble]

I read that in the 50" size range a plasma tv uses about 450watts compared to about 150 watts for a 50" dlp,
thats a lot of heat

[mikes280]

ok Bill i am looking at a 62'' pioneer elite 1080i rear projection an i like the pic ,is there any reason i should be looking for a new 1080p tv

[X-Rated30]

ok Bill i am looking at a 62'' pioneer elite 1080i rear projection an i like the pic ,is there any reason i should be looking for a new 1080p tv

Good question, and what is the difference bw 1080p and 1080i???:confused:

[mikes280]

ok Bill i am looking at a 62'' pioneer elite 1080i rear projection an i like the pic ,is there any reason i should be looking for a new 1080p tvment to say i have owned this set for a while i am not looking at buying the pioneer i already own it

[2112]

good question, and what is the difference bw 1080p and 1080i???:confused:

+1

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[clayinaustin]

Good question, and what is the difference bw 1080p and 1080i???:confused:

1080p will play Blu-Ray without any conversion. 1080p will be the standard for a long time. In fact, I don't think you can buy 1080i anymore.

I have a 1080i and I loves it, but... my next HDTV will be 60-inches or larger and will be 1080p.

[Audiofn]

The 1080 bit refers to the picture resolution. Both 1080i and 1080p have the same picture resolution. This means there are 1920 pixels of the image down the screen and 1080 pixels across the screen. This equates to 1920 x 1080 pixels on the screen in total. For some reason the industry only uses the number of pixels across the screen as a indication of the picture resolution. 1080 picture resolution is the best you can get at the moment. Other types of resolution are 720p (1280 x 720), 480p (720 x 480) and 480i (640 x 480).

The i and p bit indicate the way the image is put on the screen or the scan type. The i stands for interlaced. Interlaced scanning is an older method of putting the picture onto the screen. It is more common in older style CRT TVs. The p stands for progressive and is the modern way to put the picture on the screen. The interlaced format draws the odd numbered lines on your screen first, i.e. 1, 3, 5, etc and then it draws the even number lines i.e. 2, 4, 6, etc., while the progressive-scan format draws all the lines at the same time.

The picture comes on the screen very quickly but the progressive technique is smoother and less flickery than the interlaced method. Thus it is claimed that the picture will be better using the progressive method although it is hardly noticeable to the eye. It may also be better for fast paced action movies or rapid changes to the image but, again, it is debatable whether the eye will pick up on this.

Mike my guess is your TV is 1280X720. It will accept 1080i signal but would probably look better if you went into it 720 (less processing going on).

Hope that helps a bit.

[MarylandMark]

Thanks Mark,
Saved me some typing.

:cheers2:

I'm sure you and Audio get sick of answering what seem to be the same questions over and over only to have the person go to the local big box store and get whatever is on sale that week.

No offense to those that do that (I am one of them to an extent), however as you can see by me quoting you guys; I and many others really do value your input and please keep it up!

[mikes280]

:cheers2:

I'm sure you and Audio get sick of answering what seem to be the same questions over and over only to have the person go to the local big box store and get whatever is on sale that week.

No offense to those that do that (I am one of them to an extent), however as you can see by me quoting you guys; I and many others really do value your input and please keep it up!

Well Bill sent me in the right diection on a tv for my dad and i am thankful for that. Had he been local you can bet i would have been at his place. My dad is so happy he has to show it to everyone when they come over.

[RedDog382]

Look at the Mitsubishi Diamond Series LCD line. I picked up a 52" about this time last year and am very satisfied with it.

[BillR]

ok Bill i am looking at a 62'' pioneer elite 1080i rear projection an i like the pic ,is there any reason i should be looking for a new 1080p tv

You talking about the old style rear projection Pioneer Elite TV's? Looks like a big azz box?
If so, then check out a new plasma. The picture will have so much more detail and clarity. There is a big difference between the older style rear projection TV's and the current product. It IS worth doing. The rear projection will look blurry when compared to a plasma. I had one of those old Elite rear projections. When I switched to plasma, I could read text on screen w/o glasses.

No reason to look for 1080p VS 1080i. . . . . . . .

[BillR]

:cheers2:

I'm sure you and Audio get sick of answering what seem to be the same questions over and over only to have the person go to the local big box store and get whatever is on sale that week.

No offense to those that do that (I am one of them to an extent), however as you can see by me quoting you guys; I and many others really do value your input and please keep it up!

Yeah - Kinda.
Our industry unfortunately is SO full of mis-information from Mfg's to web sites to magazine reviews; it is hard for someone to make an intelligent decision - and you sure won't get that at a big box store!!!

All Jon and I can do is try to help.