Cafe vs Playboy

[Frequency]

i thought he meant like at some sort of cruising speed (40-55) instead of top speed.

<That's what I was after. I run the Envision down the lake around 40 mph when its really rough. I see longer boats moving comfortably faster. Would a 35 T/S or Playboy ride as well as the Cafe at say, 60 mph under those rough conditions?>

I have no experience in a larger boat at LOTO, I was just assuming that when a 35-40 ft boat passes me around 60 mph it's because they can, without getting the crap beat out of them. I am simply trying to balance amenities and performance in a 35 ft hull. The Cafe cabin looks functional comparied to the Playboy, but the Playboy will have newer power that is less maintenance intensive (and its faster). I just want to make sure I know what I'm getting, and giving up, when I make my selection.

Thanks....

[Tommy Gun]

The difference in weight between the two is about 600 lbs. (8,800 PB vs 9,400 Cafe) if that is any help. Regarding the cabin, that is up to you...we never use ours for anything other than stowing gear. The head is still a virgin.

Fact is the T/S boats are much faster and once you learn how to drive them can be relatively comfortable at speed in water most would not even try to boat in; including LOTO on a Sat afternoon. I rarley run under 60 mph.

[Frequency]

Good information - Thanks!

[Seafordguy]

In my opinion both are CIGS and NEITHER is going to have comprimised ride quality in the rough.

It boils down to what is important to you - the extra speed/efficiency, or the cafe cabin and looks?

The way we use our boat - I absolutely LOVE the cabin, but will be the first to admit I'd love an extra 10-15+ mph for comparable power - in the end the cabin is more important to me (not to mention I am on a budget)

[Frequency]

It sounds as though I need to look at both the Cafe and the 35 T/S. Does anyone know of any available for sale at LOTO? We'll be down there late next week.

Thanks all for your input.
Greg

[inbetween]

My neighbor has a 35 TS he talks about selling. It's not LOTO though, North East Ohio

[Frank A]

The difference in weight between the two is about 600 lbs. (8,800 PB vs 9,400 Cafe) if that is any help. Regarding the cabin, that is up to you...we never use ours for anything other than stowing gear. The head is still a virgin.

Fact is the T/S boats are much faster and once you learn how to drive them can be relatively comfortable at speed in water most would not even try to boat in; including LOTO on a Sat afternoon. I rarley run under 60 mph.

Weight of the cafe is 10,400lbs.

[Sea-Dated]

Weight of the cafe is 10,400lbs.

9,000lbs according to my Cafe' owners manual........

[Tank]

My neighbor has a 35 TS he talks about selling. It's not LOTO though, North East Ohio

That's a really nice looking 35. What's he thinking of price wise?

[Chris]

9,000lbs according to my Cafe' owners manual........

That's optimistic at best. And that's BARE. Probably without drive lube, let alone everything else.

[Tank]

That's optimistic at best. And that's BARE. Probably without drive lube, let alone everything else.

Yea, maybe with out drives!!

[Sea-Dated]

That's optimistic at best. And that's BARE. Probably without drive lube, let alone everything else.

I am not arguing. I figure mine is close to 12,000 with fuel, water, coolers and all the crap that my wife brings everywhere we go......

I was just showing what Cig said they were.

It does say standard boat. Maybe that means no motors or drives....

[Tommy Gun]

Must be one hell of a cooler!!!!

[Sea-Dated]

Must be one hell of a cooler!!!!

They are and I did say coolerS.....

Plural.......

[Tommy Gun]

They are and I did say coolerS.....

Plural.......

I know how you cowboys like to roll!

[Chris]

I am not arguing. I figure mine is close to 12,000 with fuel, water, coolers and all the crap that my wife brings everywhere we go......

I was just showing what Cig said they were.

It does say standard boat. Maybe that means no motors or drives....

Now we all know that no reputable boat company would say or publish anything that wasn't 100% accurate, right?

[inbetween]

That's a really nice looking 35. What's he thinking of price wise?

Our conversation didn't get as far as price. Out of my budget. I'll ask him this weekend.

Oh yea, it does look great! Fast too.

[Frank A]

Okay maybe we are both wrong

[Seafordguy]

To add to the discussion

[Chris]

It's rare to see a guy pull his boat onto a scale and leave without a look of surprise on his face.