I was just curious since I just read that the Clearwater permit was just applied for last week. I don't really care in either case. If anything is certain in offshore, it's that nothing is certain.
I don't believe anything I read, kinda like races in China and such.
To be politically correct, I am a current member of both SBI and OSS. So they both got my money.
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04-27-2009 03:56 PM
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04-27-2009 04:04 PMSean,
Dont you think it is kinda hard to go to the CG and submit for a permit without a contract from a city ??? Thats why SBI announced Clearwater last week after the city signed the contact. Then the CG issues it.....
A strong schedule is a important tool. Really without i would think you would agree you have nothing?
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04-27-2009 04:10 PM
OSS is the ONLY organization that has offered ANY racer to show up at races and ONLY pay the entry fee, no crew fee / ne registration fee. It has been done at a few site over the past few years. You guys keep saying that anyone can race with any group the point is OSS is the ONLY one that has offered it with out registering with OSS. Last year OSS offered to let them come hold there entire OWN race in Kenner at no cost to them and KEEP there own entries.....this was rejected.
PEOPLE, PLEASE learn how to use spell check!!!!!Ryan Beckley
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04-27-2009 04:12 PM
I am not disargeeing with you, I believe those races should be marked or even linked to 'help us save this race' type website for those cities. I know some people in OB are still working on it.
I was just wondering since Clearwater isn't 100% done like you said about other sites...
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04-27-2009 04:30 PM
Sean...the race in July in Clearwater was never going to happen....period...but what do I know...
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04-27-2009 04:30 PMRyan,
You know there is more to that story and it doesnt really matter. I was the point of contact on that deal and know it very well. It wasnt just flat out rejected there were some other issues and things that had changed from Rons and my original conversation. But Ron did what he had to do and some of the things he said were rejected by the board and changes made. Part of it was that an Pro series SBI boat would have to run Sunday again with the OSS among others things and that wasnt the original deal. I can go on but dont put blame on anyone it was a good effort on all parties part just didnt work. My point is just dont make it sound like it was just a flat out no way we arent racing with you.
I was shocked JC even agree at first after getting screwed out of a 100 thousand last time SBI raced in NO.
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04-27-2009 04:31 PM
We are glad you are THE AUTHORITY on which races are and are not going to happen, THANKS Gino for enlightening us.
Ryan Beckley
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04-27-2009 04:36 PM
Frank
My point is not the details of why it did not happen, it was the dollars and cents (SENSE) that OSS has offered time and time again for other racers to try OSS out for NO FEE's, NO other organization has.Ryan Beckley
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04-27-2009 05:03 PM
I could care less about this.. I just spoke to Ron and it's only $250.00 bucks total to run in PROAM class at Cumberland. No purse but a thats cool as my new driver and I could use the seat time together.
*and any TV Time is great!!
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04-27-2009 05:18 PM
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04-27-2009 06:34 PMJust for the record OSS never opened up a dialoge with any race org. stating we need 50K in purse and 35K for the staff or we have nothing to talk about! Ron never even got to talk about any of that.
SO lets not ask how is it possable to pay the big nut to OSS to be at our race site,we have no money. The question should be how can we have OSS race with us to make our show bigger with more boats and make this a kick a$$ event in our town. First there needs to be convesation and then work on ways to financialy make it happen. How do any of you know if OSS could raise there own money to race with you? How do you know if OSS needs to bring a full staff to your race sites? How do any of you know any of the factors that you are saying is the reason we dont race together? THERE HAS NEVER BEEN A COVERSATION YET TO EVEN TALK ABOUT THESE THINGS!!!!!!!!!
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04-27-2009 06:39 PM
Your correct I am ENTITLED to my OPINION, (Note: correct spelling).
Positives, How do you know OPA will have as many or more boats in 2009??
so now you can see the future??
AS for the new Super Vee class it isnt new, it is where super vee left off with APBA, then to OSS, until Skater and Fountain made their boats faster with 6drives. As for the bravo based boats besides the quest for winning, safety and the check book came to mind.
As for SBI it would appear they are on the right track, at least with a TV deal, hopefully this works out and DOES put a little spotlight on the sport.
AS for OSS, offering Pro-am does really make a big difference, again it gives some locals a chance to run, but it isnt creating a whole new sensation in offshore racing.
And last but certainly not least let's talk of investments, HMMM, a $200K race boat that's for sale best offer ??? so if you get $60 back, you have made one hell of a deal.
As for the marine industry being added to the sport, I guess you missed Mercury Racing having the plug pulled, but I forgot you didn use them anyway. Your Boat builder Dragon, even with the downturn in the economy is building and selling , right! There isnt any need to advertise, hell $200k is chump change for boat racers like you.
And as far as your spelling ruining Offshore, no it's not, sorry I wont blame your spelling on that.Some where in Kenya a village is missing an Idiot!
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04-27-2009 06:45 PM
a possible solution is for OSS to raise the money, pay your fees, come race and go home. OPA and SBI have their own staffs, any additional from outside sources wouldnt be needed. Its not an OSS/SBI/OPA deal, if you want to race, show up, pay, race, go home. You as a race team can race anywhere you are in good standings, its not an organizational issue. Sounds simple enough for me, but come on twist what I am saying again............
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04-27-2009 06:52 PM
Boys can we stop with all this back and forth....I cant see how this is good for anyone!!!!
God forgives.....The 1% doesn't!!!!!!
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04-27-2009 07:05 PMI am just trying to offer ideas. And yes I pulled my last two post thinking no one wanted to read this BS but it seems they do. What do you think the CBS people think about the recruting plan now. Maybe its a little deeper than they thought. Just keep ****ing people off.
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04-27-2009 07:18 PM
Randy...Dean asked you to email him....so do it...
Offer him some money to come to there site and tell him you guys will race for no prise money....maybe they will do it....and do the same to Smitty and JC....let see what happens...it would be worth the initial investment to see if it works....if they don't then this must go deeper then we know....
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04-27-2009 07:26 PM
Pete...again...why do you care about what money I have lost racing and buying boats....you have no clue on any deals I have been working on for a new boat...again...do you really want to talk about racers lossing money on there boats is that what this thread is about......once again...real positive for new racers to read....your just a bundle of joy for racers to read....Hey did you ask Ray D how much he is going to loose on his boat or any other racers that have sold and bought new boats.....no....becuase they would tell you its none of your bussiness
This is all you can say...
No boats so the TV will suck...
Racers lossing money buying boats...
Anything else Mr Happy....
Again...till you own a team...you have no idea what it takes and what TV is good and what is not....you are a fan...thats it...Till you make the investment...your opinion is nothing to the actual racer...you can voice your opinion...but thats as far as it gose....its real easy to sit behind a computer and a camera and tell us racers whats good for our sport....and were to spend our money....
And the OPA comment is based on 2009 entre's paid...not furture reading here...just paid enrtry's.....
Sounds like we racers better not spend anymore money on boats...Naaaa...I will...becuase I love racing...so sorry....
So you see...yes...I sell my boat and yes I buy a new one....and yes the manufacture gets another sale....and Mercury Racing makes some money to...
And lets see...Mercury Racing pulling the plug on who..Mercury Racing dose not pay me to race...I pay Mercury Racing for there equipment...I have spent over 200k with Mercury Racing since I started racing....is that not good enough for you..THE FAN......I would think Mercury Racing wants me to sell my boats and buy new ones so I can buy more of there equipment to help there company....Mercury Racing has always been good to me...but without the racers how big would Mercury Racing be and would there be another manufacture there to take there place...
And YES...OPA has brought back SV...so it is new for OPA.....and its a great class and it is positive news FOR OUR SPORT....not to you becasue its not your Org...but for OUR sport it is...you see thats what its about OUR SPORT...not one Org...not you...OUR sport as a whole...
Let us know if there is anything positive you can say here about Offshore racing...Last edited by MANITIE; 04-28-2009 at 01:14 PM.
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04-27-2009 11:58 PM
Please don't infect this site with this BS !!! Dave
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