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    Quote Originally Posted by Trim'd Up View Post
    I agree! I love my USP 40. I am glad I bought it a few years ago. They are pricey nowdays.
    I have an HK USP Tactical in .40 and love it. HK is always a good choice.
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    Had a Beretta .40 nice gun, but really liked my buddies S&W 10mm.
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    10mm is too hot for a autoloading handgun. Other than the Colt, every one I've ever seen suffers from frame cracking. It's nothing more than a 357Mag. If you like the caliber, buy a Smith 19 and enjoy half-price ammo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    10mm is too hot for a autoloading handgun. Other than the Colt, every one I've ever seen suffers from frame cracking. It's nothing more than a 357Mag. If you like the caliber, buy a Smith 19 and enjoy half-price ammo.
    I have a Colt Delta Elite 10MM. Love the gun but ammo is scarace. I took a deer down with it once. Dave
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    I just found this thread. I used to own a gun store in south florida, so I know a bit about the subject. The reality of owning a gun for personal protection is that you not only will most likely never use your gun against an intruder or attacker, but you are also a lot more likely to hurt a friend, neighbor, or family member. With that being said, always get a gun that you enjoy shooting. Don't worry about stopping power.

    The 3 guns that I always loved to shoot were the Sig Arms P-210 in 9mm, Browning Hi-Power in 9mm and the HK P7M8 in 9mm. I always found the M13 to be cumbersome. If I had to pick 1 of those, it would be the Sig Arms. They are hard to find, but they are great shooters.
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    Of all the handguns I own, and thats ALOT, my Sig is by far my favorite and my choice for carry. Sig P229 in .40 cal. Dave
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    The P210 he writes about is the Swiss-made one and the only "real" SIG. The rest are SIG Sauer.
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    Chris gets an A+. Once you have shot a Sig Arms you will never confuse it with a Sig Sauer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wardey View Post
    Of all the handguns I own, and thats ALOT, my Sig is by far my favorite and my choice for carry. Sig P229 in .40 cal. Dave
    I don't carry my Sig 229 9mm since I bought my KelTec Pf-9; but my Sig 229 is my favorite gun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trim'd Up View Post
    I agree! I love my USP 40. I am glad I bought it a few years ago. They are pricey nowdays.
    Yes they are... I got lucky, my .45 was used but you couldn't tell. It looks brand new. That saved me some $$.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    HK are like cheating. A bad shooter instantly becomes OK and a good shooter instantly becomes very good. I have never put one in someone's hand that didn't immediately tighten up by 50 to 100%.

    The best one for that is the P7
    So I'm a bad shooter huh???
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    If you bought an HK, you can now be a well-disguised bad shooter.
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    I had a kid fresh out of USAF bootcamp come ovet to shoot one evening with a shiny new Kimber, he kept raving about how his new Kimber 45 was the best of the best and nothing was better. After watching him send a few dozzen rounds down range most of them entirely missing the paper, I stuck a USP in his hands. I seriously thought he was going to cry after I told him what they can be purchased for compared to what he grossly over paid for his pride and joy Kimber.
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    If you are not a hand-gunner, start with a .22 auto, become proficient then and only then move up to something like a .45acp. I have observed many shooters who start with a large caliber and develop a flinch and never become proficient.
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    Very true. Recoil sensitivity can hit even the biggest, toughest guy. And it can be damn near impossible to get rid of.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    If you bought an HK, you can now be a well-disguised bad shooter.
    I'll settle for that.
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    Very true. Recoil sensitivity can hit even the biggest, toughest guy. And it can be damn near impossible to get rid of.
    When NYS first allowed handguns for deer in NYS many local experienced shotgun hunters ran out and purchased .44 mags, .41 mags and .357 mags. A short time later slightly used large caliber handgun could be purchased cheap as the people who bought them could not hit the broad side of the barn with their new hand guns. Some of these were club members at my gun club but were rifle shooters not hand gunners. They would tell a experienced hand gunner that the pistol was not accurate. The experienced shooter would take the pistol and 99.9% of the time shoot a nice tight group. When the owner then fired it you could see the flinch coming before the gun was close to firing. Some of them then worked hard and overcome the flinch but many sold the pistol and went back to rifles and shotguns. Lesson was .... start out with a small cal. or at least light loads.

    If you want to see if you have a flinch, have some one load your magazine or cylinder with a dummy round or two mixed in. It is also a good method to use to help get rid of flinching.
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    I love this thread, read through it twice; time to resurrect it.

    I am thinking of adding a .45 to may collection. I am a Sig Fan and have been eyeballing the P220 Equinox although I don't need the shorter version, just like all the bells and whistles.

    Also looking at the P220 Dark Elite. Not as pretty but probably a more accurate piece. Also, not readily available.

    This is for fun. Shooting at a range and the pride of ownership. Have a P230 for carry and a 9MM sphinx for home (yes, I need to think shotguns).

    So any opinions out there between the two Sigs?
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    Kimber Ultra II 45 with a High Noon inside the pants holster.
    Couldn't agree with you more and I own one. I also own a .40 Glock a 9mm Ruger and a 5shot pocket .22 revolver. My home defence gun is a Remington 870 with a pistol grip and 00 buck.

    I have a CCW and hope I never am found in a position I need to use it, but if I am I'm prepared. I also agree with Chris in a circumstance of being in the dark while fumbling around with a handgun isn't my ideal situation and prefer to rack the 12ga and swing and fire. I've adapted mine with a surefire light in place of the forearm so when I grip it the light comes on helps in the dark as well as blinds a potential intruder. I've always told anyone that comes into my house make sure your calling my name if it's after I've went to bed.
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    On another side note does anyone know much about the Taurus Judge? I was looking at it for more of a home defense weapon than a carry, but considering you can load it with either .45ACP or .410 shot shells seems like a good carry weapon as well. And being a revolver it's reliable...Thoughts?
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