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    Still no points totals up for the two days combined. (Or official results from yesterday).
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    I sure wish they would get the dang points up for the two day total!!!

    It's as bad as the Broward County vote tally.
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    Finally

    Penalties
    UAE3 AND UAE33 JUMPING START 2 MINUTES
    64 CROWDING THE PACE BOAT 2 MINUTES
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    I sure hope you can not win a World Championship with out completing a race. Heck 7.1 miles in second race, 0 in first.
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    I can see the crowding, the jumping the start I do not agree with. The boats on the close side failed to stay in line more then the Victory Teams jumped.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MOBILEMERCMAN View Post
    I sure hope you can not win a World Championship with out completing a race. Heck 7.1 miles in second race, 0 in first.
    I'm assuming they've already won. No other boats in the class and they got a start on Friday. Actually ran 1 3/4 laps!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MOBILEMERCMAN View Post
    I can see the crowding, the jumping the start I do not agree with. The boats on the close side failed to stay in line more then the Victory Teams jumped.
    If you watch over and over from the 16:30 mark or so, it looks like they shotgunned the start and were a bit early. The yellow is up a long time.

    Is that Wake Effects way on the inside of the pace boat? Farther over than Chocolate??

    https://livestream.com/sbi/keywest20...deos/183342054
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    Although it looks like the green came up at 17:03, actually before they dropped the yellow at 17:06.

    What's the rule on that? Anybody have a clue?

    We always have gone on green up. If that's the case, they did not jump from what I see.
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    Here's from the SBI rulebook.

    h. The pace boat determines the actual start by simultaneously dropping the yellow flag and raising the green flag.
    i. The starter, wearing orange gloves and/or using orange batons and an orange vest (if necessary) over his P.F.D., aboard the pace boat will utilize hand signals to control the starting fleet.
    j. Racing may only begin when the green flag is raised; however, the official start for timing purposes is when the first boat crosses the starting line.
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    I watched it over and over. They did nothing wrong on start. They did however just cruise around IMO. The 3 boat turned in a 121 mph lap. I suspect the two boats cruised around together until the one hosed the other in front of mole. The following lap the 3 hosed them back in same place. I believe both boats have a lot left and can turn in much faster laps. If Wake effects gets a good run in we will have a chance to see what #3 has really got.
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    I'm surprised they are not enforcing the rules on a couple of the boats that are no where close to meeting the requirements. Maybe they will if those boats win?

    2018 SBIP General Rulebook Revised 8/22/18 Page 16 of 75
    will place the boat in the appropriate class. Points must remain in the class in which they were awarded and are not transferable. An additional boat registration fee is not required unless the new class fees dictate a high fee than originally paid. If a boat transfers to a lower class, a registration credit shall not be allowed.
    9. Numbers Criteria – Numbers on all race boats shall meet the following criteria:
    a. National Series Event Boats –
    1. Numbers - All National Series Classes (Superboat Unlimited, Superboat, Superboat Extreme, Superboat Vee, Superboat Stock, Manufacturer Production (P3, P4) race boat numbers shall contain no more than three (3) digits and shall range from Number 2 through Number 999. National Series Class boats use standard numbers as described in section “9-b All Classes”.
    2. Legibility – National Series boats are required to have standard black numbers over a white background with a black border. It is the responsibility of the boat owner to have numbers that are legible for scoring purposes. If the standard numbers do not meet minimum requirements, the boat may risk not being scored, and can be required to change the numbers before the next race or receive a penalty.
    3. Duplication - Numbers in all National Series Classes will be assigned by SBIP and may not be duplicated within any of the National Series Classes. Preference for numbers shall be given to boats already registered. In the event duplicate numbers currently exist, the boat with the earlier date of registration shall be assigned that number.
    b. All Classes – Numbers shall be in black, vertical, block lettering over a white background.
    1. Border - If applied to a white hull, a black border must surround them.
    2. Height, Width, Stroke, Spacing - The minimum height of each number shall be eighteen inches (18"); minimum width shall be thirteen (13"); minimum stroke shall be three inches (3"); minimum spacing between each number shall be four inches (4"). The single exception to this can be the number "1" when used with another digit in which case the width may be narrower.
    3. Location - The racing numbers shall be clearly visible on either beam and from above. Those numbers shall be displayed on the foredeck and shall read correctly from the driver's position and shall be underlined by a black bar. Side numbers shall be on the front half of the hull.
    4. Scoring - Numbers not meeting these rules or any number that becomes unreadable during an event will be scored at the discretion of the chief scorer and/or chief referee of that event. (See Diagram 9-b-5).
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    A great week of racing overall. Congrats to the winners.e

    It was nice to watch on live stream. Mike did a great job calling the race. Thank you
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratickle View Post
    Finally

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    UAE3 AND UAE33 JUMPING START 2 MINUTES
    64 CROWDING THE PACE BOAT 2 MINUTES
    Damn jumpers!!!
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    They edited the SBI race video so the jump is now at the beginning. Here's a close in crop of the start. Look how far over they jumped when that green flag came up. OMG!!

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    So the green flag is up, the two Victory boats are at least 100' behind, (that's a 50' red boat), but they get penalized for jumping the start.

    Go figure......

    Green flag at 2:09

    https://livestream.com/sbi/keywest20...deos/183342054

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    Since the SBI website still says Unofficial Results, I assume this is still being hashed out?

    Obviously, from their own live video replay, there was no jump of the start by anybody except Chocolate.
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    the question you should be asking is ,,,what are the qualifications of the chief referee,and WHO really makes the final decision in these matters?

    I do believe smittys crew will manage this area much better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by john acosta View Post
    the question you should be asking is ,,,what are the qualifications of the chief referee,and WHO really makes the final decision in these matters?

    I do believe smittys crew will manage this area much better.
    Who are you kidding? Smitty is the chief referee. While he is racing there is no referee. I have been victim of his charade before.
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    well aint that a kick in the pants?

    I knew sbi chief referee wasn't much to write home about.
    now youre telling me smitty is as bad?

    oh well.so larrys the answer?
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    We will chat on this subject when the OPA World's are over.

    Are you in Englewood John?
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