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    Turbine rigging
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    Here is a couple shots of the t53,s Before they go in for next season.

    Considering it was my first build we decided to send them
    back to the builder to give them the once over.

    Back and ready for installation.
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    Here is the oil Sump tanks.
    They hold approx 4 gallons of Turbine oil.
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    Man I wish I had your talent
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    Its easier to rig a Turbine compared to its piston counterpart.



    Here is the Solenoid that kills the fuel. This is what shuts down the engine.
    I wired this to the laynard also. This is available thru Mark NYE out of canada.
    In a helicopter it is done with the throttle. One click beyond ground idle kills
    the engine.


    Also pictured is the starter generator.This is a 24 volt unit.
    It puts out 300 amps.

    SCS gearboxes makes a upper mount for this.
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    Do you have to wire a second set of batteries for the starter?
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    I run two 12,s for the boat in parrell.
    I run two 12,s in series for each Turbine.

    Two 600 amp contactors in parrell kick the starter portion in the A$$ on
    spool up.

    Then a reverse current relay takes over (after start) and back feeds
    the two series 12,s.

    There is also a Alternator driven off the starboard driveshaft
    to charge the 12 volt.

    All cables are 00 welding type.

    There are simpler ways to achieve this with less batterys.
    But I wanted redundencie.
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    Jon, that is 1 bad ass set up he has ! tryin 2-get him to come up to Maine sometime. 2-fold prob. though need a suitable launch ramp ( maybe the basin ) what do ya think ? and also need over=width permiting from MA thru NH to ME it would be just WILD @ the P.R. in July. maybe keep her @ biggus's OR ? where's Artie ?
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    Here is the intakes. New for 2009. I had them enlarged by 30%.

    This provides more fresh air to the Turbine.

    Some Turbine riggers draw from the engine bay.
    The combuster housing is at approx 500 degrees.

    WE want cool dense air.
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    super cool stuff
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    G, he did a FAB. job on the expanded direct atmosphere induction intakes way koool !
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    Quote Originally Posted by tango View Post
    John, that is 1 bad ass set up he has ! tryin 2-get him to come up to Maine sometime. 2-fold prob. though need a suitable launch ramp ( maybe the basin ) what do ya think ? and also need over=width permiting from MA thru NH to ME it would be just WILD @ the P.R. in July. maybe keep her @ biggus's OR ? where's Artie ?
    With planning anything is possible. There are a few ramps he could use. Actaually one that may be the best is the State Park ramp at the end of the river on the Sabego side. I am sure there are a few others even private ones like Jordan Bay Marine that could work. You have to be carefull in Jordan bay if the water is low with all the weeds in there. We had to clear out Biggus's water pick ups a few years ago.

    One of these days I have to take a trip down there and check that missle out.
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    Stop by anytime Jon.

    I,m right off 95.


    Here is the intake mounted to the Turbine.

    The Third picture is a shot of the bellhousing.
    This is machined for a SCS crashbox on one side and Machined for the Turbine
    on the other.

    The rotor is your basic wilwood available threw summit.
    Caliper is also.
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    Here it is assembled shown with the SCS crashbox.
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    Some info on the Lycombing t53 L13B

    This Turbine makes a good canidate for a boat Mainly for two reasons
    Its output shaft spins at 6600 RPM and the Shaft can be stopped at
    Ground Idle for up to a minute.

    The secret lies in the ability to stop the output shaft.
    This enables one to install a brake and caliper assembly allowing the use
    of a direct gear to gear. (Crashbox).

    So this means while the Turbine is running at idle one can utilize the brake
    to shift from forward neutral reverse.

    No clucthes to smoke or burn. Just shear Torque to your drives.

    The 6600 output rpm is very close to our friendly Big Block Chevy rpm.

    Fuel and air is all she needs to run.

    Well now that I spewed all this BS. I,m going back to work.
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    Here is a video showing how you shift from forward neutral reverse

    There are several ways to activate the caliper.
    The way we do it here is Pnematic over hydraulic.

    A micro switch located on the shifter activates a pneumatic solenoid
    which sends air to a air piston mechanicaly attached to a GoKart
    Master cylinder which in turn squeezes the caliper stoping the output
    shaft.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HpbYDFGrkA
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    Here is the upper plenum of the intake.
    This bolts directly to lower intake.
    There is also a Foreign object screen. This protects the Turbine from
    injesting Bra,s, Small children or what not.
    The internal spray bar is visible.
    This is used for the methanol injection as well
    as the compressor wash.
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    Is the gearbox the only thing that needs cooling or does the turbine oil need it too?
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    Actualy the SCS does not require cooling. The reason why it mounts thru
    the intake is that is where the output shaft on this Turbine is located.
    These are a cold shaft Turbines as for Example the PT6 is a hot shaft
    engine.

    Good question on the Turbine oil. It does require Cooling.
    Pictured below is the coolers I am using.
    The required temperture should 200 degrees.
    I also run a modifed Canton oil T stat. To keep the Temp at 200.
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    Thanks

    Cool stuff
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    I had to regroup on the way I initialy plumbed it.

    We blew a water line off at 140 and the boat started to sink.
    The only warning I had was the bildge indicator light was staying on.

    It is now plumbed like this.

    Water pickup to sea strainer then to cooler out of cooler to tee
    one side of tee has check valve then dumped overboard. Other side of tee
    goes to a Jabsco pump then out to dump.
    The circulation pump is only used for long no wake zones.
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