Around Long Island Race.......New idea for a new division

[Top Banana]

Had a suggestion from some of the guys in the Northeast. They didn't want to run the whole 271 miles, so they asked if we would start a separate division for a relay race.

Each team would have four boats and they would divide the distance up between them.

This is what we came up with .......any interest from anyone else out there?



DON ARONOW MEMORIAL RELAY RACE AROUND LONG ISLAND

Relay teams of four boats. Entry fee divided by four.

First boat of the team starts with all the other regular racers at the start in Port Washington..

First boat goes to Port Jefferson which is about 70 - 75 miles away. Sheltered water as it on the north of the island.

Second boat picks up the... baton or whatever ....and goes from Port Jefferson to Shinnecock, another 70 miles or so. This will be the roughest part of the route around Montauk

Third boat goes from Shinnecock all the way down the South shore to the Verrazano Bridge over to Staten Island. This is all open ocean running and should be the biggest boat of the four.

Fourth boat goes from the Verrazano Bridge, back to the finish back at Port Washington. Nice position for a fast cat, as it is all calm water.

Relay race would not be part of the major non stop race, but a separate division, with it's own prizes and records etc. Teams can mix and match any boat and engine combination to make up a team.

Maximum boat length is 55 feet and minimum boat length is 18 feet.

HOWEVER, we don't want just one or two teams showing up......try to get together a half dozen or more.

All race boats must carry all safety equipment.

[Top Banana]

ALSO>>>>>>>>> If anyone has an interest in trying to break a record with a single engine boat, we have two existing records....one for outboard and the other for sterndrive.

Look at those average speeds and the years they were set........someone must have a boat that can challenge these.


1959 17 foot Hunter 1 70 HP Mercury outboard .......8 hours and 30 minutes....32.4 MPH.....280 miles

1965 20 foot Owens 1 225 HP MerCruiser sterndrive.....7 hours and 45 minutes.....30.2 MPH....234 miles



Now that is a record that should be easy to break.... with today's designs in both boats and motors.

How about a nice old Magnum 27 with a big old Mercury 400 HP outboard. The best of old and new.

[Ratickle]

The Baton handoff in the relay race would be fun to watch!!!!!!!

[Ratickle]

ALSO>>>>>>>>> If anyone has an interest in trying to break a record with a single engine boat, we have two existing records....one for outboard and the other for sterndrive.

Look at those average speeds and the years they were set........someone must have a boat that can challenge these.


1965 20 foot Owens 1 225 HP MerCruiser sterndrive.....7 hours and 45 minutes.....30.2 MPH....234 miles

Now that is a record that should be easy to break.... with today's designs in both boats and motors.

A SVL should take care of that one!!!!!! I'm gonna have to check race schedules and see what's going on around then......

[Ratickle]

Looks pretty good, except the SBI Pensacola race is that weekend, but it is probably not close enough to pull too many northeast teams. OPA Fall River is the 14th through 16th. OPA Detroit is September 4th through 6th.

[Top Banana]

SORRY>>>>>>CORRECTION. apparently the single engine sterndrive record I posted is wrong.

In 1967, Dick Genth won the race, driving a single engine 28 foot Thunderbird/Formula and averaged 47 MPH over a 253 mile course.

[Top Banana]

Looks pretty good, except the SBI Pensacola race is that weekend, but it is probably not close enough to pull too many northeast teams. OPA Fall River is the 14th through 16th. OPA Detroit is September 4th through 6th.

Yes, we tried to look for a date ahead of time.... that would not conflict with anyone else.

[Ratickle]

SORRY>>>>>>CORRECTION. apparently the single engine sterndrive record I posted is wrong.

In 1967, Dick Genth won the race, driving a single engine 28 foot Thunderbird/Formula and averaged 47 MPH over a 253 mile course.

Still very do-able with today's single engine offerings for size and power.

[Top Banana]

With the new idea of a Rally, to run alongside the full blown 271 mile Don Aronow Around Long Island race, we are reaching out to the owners of the many restored offshore race boats to see if they would be interested in putting together a team or two to run in the rally.

Boats that have been restored:

The Cigarette - 23 foot Formula
Ghost Rider - 28 foot Wynn - Walters
Banana Boat - 28 foot Magnum-Donzi / New Name - The Other Woman
Great Adventure - 30 foot Sutphen
Busch - 30 foot Sutphen
Still Crazy - 30 foot Velocity
White Tornado - 32 foot Bertram
Dry Martini - 35 foot Cigarette
Kiekhaefer Aeromarine - 36 foot Cigarette
Slap Shot - 36 foot Cigarette / New Name - Dirty Pearl
Needle Nose - 38 foot Bertram
Natural Light - 38 foot Bertram / New Name - Bertram Competition 38
Michelob Light - 38 foot Scarab
Powerboat Magazine Special - 39 foot Cigarette
Bounty Hunter - 39 foot Cigarertte
Popeyes - 45 foot Cougar
K&L Insurance - 47 Apache


Race Boat Restorations in Progress:

The Cigarette - 32 Foot Cary
BENIHANA - 35 foot Cigarette
Vincentive - 38 foot Bertram
Top Banana - 38 foot Banana / Coyote

If there are any others out there that you know of, please let us know and provide a way to contact the owner.

[c12]

I see on Facebook that KAAMA - 38 Scarab is being restored

https://www.facebook.com/BettyCookKAAMA/timeline

[Top Banana]

With the new idea of a Rally, to run alongside the full blown 271 mile Don Aronow Around Long Island race, we are reaching out to the owners of the many restored offshore race boats to see if they would be interested in putting together a team or two to run in the rally.

Boats that have been restored:

The Cigarette - 23 foot Formula
Ghost Rider - 28 foot Wynn - Walters
Banana Boat - 28 foot Magnum-Donzi / New Name - The Other Woman
Great Adventure - 30 foot Sutphen
Busch - 30 foot Sutphen
Still Crazy - 30 foot Velocity
White Tornado - 32 foot Bertram
Dry Martini - 35 foot Cigarette
Kiekhaefer Aeromarine - 36 foot Cigarette
Slap Shot - 36 foot Cigarette / New Name - Dirty Pearl
Needle Nose - 38 foot Bertram
Natural Light - 38 foot Bertram / New Name - Bertram Competition 38
Michelob Light - 38 foot Scarab
Powerboat Magazine Special - 39 foot Cigarette
Bounty Hunter - 39 foot Cigarertte
Popeyes - 45 foot Cougar
K&L Insurance - 47 Apache


Race Boat Restorations in Progress:

The Cigarette - 32 Foot Cary
BENIHANA - 35 foot Cigarette
Vincentive - 38 foot Bertram
Top Banana - 38 foot Banana / Coyote
KAAMA - 38 Scarab
GENTRY - 46 foot Scarab



If there are any others out there that you know of, please let us know and provide a way to contact the owner.

Thanks for the additional info I added them on.

[Ratickle]

Is that really the original Kaama?

[Top Banana]

Is that really the original Kaama?

Great question! Now we have to start at the 36 foot Cigarette...which of course as we all know was Dante's Inferno.

Then we remember that there were actually two 36 foot Cigarette's both named Dante's Inferno.

So the question should be....Which of the orgignal two 36 foot Cigarette's named Dante's Inferno, became Betty Cook's first KAAMA?

Dante had one boat with a hole cut in the deck forward of the windshield. He had his son Steve, ride in that hole(upholstered) as a way to test his mettle......or so he said.

Steve developed into a good driver on his own winning a Bahamas 500 race with Willy Meyers later on.

So Betty, who learned her race skills from Don Pruett in a 32 Bertram she called Mongoose, wanted to go play with the big Open Class boats....and she knew the Tognoli's were selling.

The Cook's, Betty and Paul, bought the Tognoli boat and she renamed it KAAMA. Don't forget that was a 36 foot Cigarette.

She raced that for a few years and did OK, but knew she wanted a something bigger and better. Being from California, she knew Larry Smith very well and purchased one of his Scarabs that was 38 feet long in Kevlar.

The question now is....was this the original Scarab or another one she purchased later? Best way to find out, is to see what year is was made by the transom HIN number. Should show it being built in 1976...if so, it is the first.

[Top Banana]

Back to the RALLY. We now have interest in teams racing against each other by brand. Surphen vs Cigarette and Outerlimits vs Fountain or Skater vs MTI, you get the idea.

All they need to do is come with four of the same brand, regardless of length or year and they will be the XXXTeam, so we will then have manufacturers standings..... by finish order

[Top Banana]

Had another entry for the RACE today. 36 foot Skater with 2X525 HP and Mercruisers. They raced in the Bimini race with us a few years ago.

They have enough fuel to make the run without stopping....they will be very competitive.

We added them on to the list in class B

At this point 35 boats total.


Class A 43 to 55 feet

1.) 52 MTI Cat
2.) 50 Nor Tech Vee
3.) 46 LS Scarab
4.) 46 Skater

Class B 36 to 42 feet

1.) 42 Chief
2.) 42 Cigarette
3.) 41 Apache
4.) 41 Sabre
5.) 40 Outerlimits
6.) 40 MTI cat
7.) 38 Cigarette
8.) 38 Sea Hawk
9.) 38 LS Scarab
10.) 37 Active Thunder
11.) 36 Skater
12.) 36 Skater

Class C 29 to 35 feet

1.) 35 Fountain
2.) 35 Fountain
3.) 34 Phantom
4.) 33 Avanti
5.) 33Sutphen
6.) 33 Skater
7.) 32 Cobra
8.) 30 Predator Cat
9.) 30 Sonic
10.) 30 Sonic

Class D 18 to 30 feet

1.) 29.6 Fountain
2.) 28 Ghost
3.) 28 Magnum
4.) 28 Magnum
5.) 26 Scarab
6.) 28 Skater
7.) 27 Baja
8.) 22 Toasty
9.) 18 Donzi

[jdoss]

I've put the call out to some Saber owners for the team event. one is entered . We'll c.

[Top Banana]

I've put the call out to some Saber owners for the team event. one is entered . We'll c.

The one Saber that expressed interest is shown in the RACE.

The team event is for the RALLY.

Are you saying that you hope to get four Sabers for the RALLY in addition to the one in the RACE?

[jdoss]

The 41 saber plans on running the race. I have contacted him(dave) in regards to the rally. wanting to c if he wanted to run in it vs the race.
His plan is to run the race it's on his bucket list. I've put feelers out to find 3 other sabers to run the relay, or may enter the 34.

[Ratickle]

Check on 4 Powerquests too.......

[Top Banana]

The 41 saber plans on running the race. I have contacted him(dave) in regards to the rally. wanting to c if he wanted to run in it vs the race.
His plan is to run the race it's on his bucket list. I've put feelers out to find 3 other sabers to run the relay, or may enter the 34.

The nice thing about the RALLY is, you can mix different size boats and they will still be a good addition to the team.

The first leg and the last leg of the RALLY run in protected water, so you could put some smaller and faster boats in those slots. They could even out the average running time in case you have bigger boats that are not super fast.