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03-03-2014 09:58 AMGetting bad advice is unfortunate, taking bad advice is a Serious matter!!
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03-06-2014 09:19 AMYeah, I don't think they are designed to thrill the experienced racer. I hope they work to bring up the next set of offshore racers in the US. Other than the mini-hydros, there is no other beginning way to learn boat racing. You have some outboard offshore classes in Europe that we don't have over here. Our organizations have failed at promoting young racers into offshore. OPA has made the move now to Class 7 and that will hopefully help.
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03-07-2014 09:30 AM
There is a long story on "the other side" but I think he has it dialed in now and he has fitted some of his own kit including steering and throttle he custom made and brought over.
Lack of time to get over to the show I'm afraid, last time I was there was 2005 and really enjoyed it - went to Key West for the Worlds in the following November - a great year!
Venture Cup is very much on the go, I sold the race boat last week as my sponsors didn't fancy the return on the massive investment needed but the guy who bought it will likely still do the race and may need crew so I might end up doing the race in the boat anyway!Cookee
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03-07-2014 09:34 AM
Whilst I agree they aren't designed to thrill they are way to easy to turn over in my opinion, in addition the Evinrude saddles are made of something with the tensile strength of cheese which also causes fun and games when the engine falls off the back of the boat! The whole setup is underpowered so everyone is forced to turn corners as fast as possible which results in inevitable consequences - they had a fatality in the UK last year from someone getting thrown out and run over ..............Cookee
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03-07-2014 11:44 PMThey certainly seem to go over often. One racer I know thinks they would be much more stable, even though faster, with twin outboards. Your thoughts?
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01-14-2015 01:05 PM
I seem to have missed this thread - One thing would definitely help would be 15" mids but they would have to swap over to Mercury for that and P1 are too tight, twins wouldn't help but a different hull would - our race RIB used to spin out instead of tip over and that went 91 mph with a standard 280 EFI on - I offered them the hull but they never came back to me, the hulls are made in the US and the standard of work isn't something I would want to go racing in which is inexcusable as there are plenty of good laminators over there!
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01-15-2015 11:54 AMIt is a tough call. Boat racing is dangerous, as we have been reminded too many times.
Why do you think the shorter mids would be much better? Just to lower the center of gravity?Getting bad advice is unfortunate, taking bad advice is a Serious matter!!
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01-20-2015 08:56 AM
Yes, they tried the Merc 300's on the Cougar hulls which had very similar characteristics and had been running the Honda four strokes (Which was the original P1 series) and they transformed the handling of the boats, I also raced OCR which consisted mostly of Phantom 18' hulls with 200 HP V6 Merc XR2's and when they brought the 15" mid out it also transformed the handling of the boats - History proves me right!
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01-21-2015 10:08 AMSo, I wonder if there is anyway to get Evinrude to modify their mid to offer a 15"?
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01-21-2015 10:14 AM
Not a chance - they can't even get them to stay in one piece for racing, as far as I know the standard mids don't have an issue in normal use but they are useless for racing from what I've seen. The only sensible route would be to go to Mercury engines witht he race offshore 15" leg but they won't do the same deal that Evinrude do ....................
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